Concealed Carry in Illinois

[spookyturtle 9,465]

They can conceal carry in their car but that's it.

Exactly, that hasn't changed. But it didn't give someone the ability to go to get a permit from another state and CC on their person as Gary has claimed a few hundred times. Tens of thousands of IL residents didn't rush out of the state the day after the Court ruling in December 2012 to get an out of state permit so they could legally CC in IL and thus reducing the crime rate in 2013 as Gary has claimed. A totally false statement. Your out of state license was not legal for CC before the ruling and it is not legal today.

[GandD 5,966]

Exactly, that hasn't changed. But it didn't give someone the ability to go to get a permit from another state and CC on their person as Gary has claimed a few hundred times. Tens of thousands of IL residents didn't rush out of the state the day after the Court ruling in December 2012 to get an out of state permit so they could legally CC in IL and thus reducing the crime rate in 2013 as Gary has claimed. A totally false statement. Your out of state license was not legal for CC before the ruling and it is not legal today.

As the law sits, that wasn't allowed before and isn't going to be allowed going forward.

Well, unless you're from Hawaii and even then, you still have to apply for a permit.:

Non-Resident Permit

The Illinois State Police have released the following for those states that meet the criteria for their

residents to apply for a Non-Resident Permit. You can view the list as pasted below by clicking on

“Checklist Prior to Applying” at this Link:

NON-RESIDENTS

In accordance with 430 ILCS 66/40 (b), out of state residents may be eligible for an Illinois Concealed Carry

License if your state meets the definition of substantially similar as established by rule. See 20 Il. Admin.

Code 1231.10. Currently, the states identified below have been determined to have laws related to firearm

ownership, possession, and carrying that are substantially similar to the requirements to obtain a license

under Illinois’ law; and, therefore, may apply for an Concealed Carry License. This list will be updated as

additional states are identified as substantially similar. Further Information concerning the regulations for

non-resident applications can be found at 20 Il. Admin. Code 1231.110.

 Hawaii

Note: Only residents of the states listed above have been approved by the Illinois State Police to apply for

an Illinois Non-Resident Permit. As stated they will update this list if other states have criteria that meets

their stands for their residents. Illinois law states you must have a permit/license from your home state if

applicable to apply for an Illinois permit. If you don’t have your resident permit/license Handgunlaw.us at

this times believes you can not apply for an Illinois Permit to Carry and will only accept applications from

residents of states listed above.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/illinois.pdf

Edited February 10, 2014 by GandD

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Thus far. But we are a LONG way from when it was written.

Very true. But the process to amend would take years. Which politicians are going to stand up while running and tell the voters they are for gun confiscation? Even the liberals wouldn't do that, it would be suicide. The whole face of the country has to change before that happens and I don't see it in the next several decades.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

As the law sits, that wasn't allowed before and isn't going to be allowed going forward.

Well, unless you're from Hawaii:

http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/illinois.pdf

Right. But holding a Hawaii permit doesn't allow you to CC in Illinois. You still need the IL permit.

[GandD 5,966]

Right. But holding a Hawaii permit doesn't allow you to CC in Illinois. You still need the IL permit.

Correct.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

As the law sits, that wasn't allowed before and isn't going to be allowed going forward.

Well, unless you're from Hawaii and even then, you still have to apply for a permit.:

http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/illinois.pdf

I think I posted that link or one the exact same in the first post in this thread.

See? You've taken a few minutes and were able to find the information quite easily. I tried to make it easy for everyone to follow.

[GandD 5,966]

I think I posted that link or one the exact same in the first post in this thread.

My bad, sorry to step on your toes yo. I mostly just read what you guys posted.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

My bad, sorry to step on your toes yo. I mostly just read what you guys posted.

I'm actually glad that you found it on your own. It wasn't difficult at all, was it? Now imagine how easy it would be if you were a gun aficionado who lived, breathed and slept guns?

[GandD 5,966]

I'm actually glad that you found it on your own. It wasn't difficult at all, was it? Now imagine how easy it would be if you were a gun aficionado who lived, breathed and slept guns?

It was easy and quite readily available.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

It was easy and quite readily available.

I would guess that most people could have found much of what I have linked to in 10 minutes or so. Individual search skills vary, but the info is out there.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Personally I don't think that everyone should have to do this in order to have a simple discussion. It's pretty sad when people post lies to deceive others. I'm not talking about the nonsense or joking around stuff, I think most of us do that, and it is usually quite obvious.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Dave brought up a good point about Alaska, very lenient guns laws, very high gun ownership by percentage of population- higher than Vermont's, yet Alaska has a higher crime rate than Vermont? How can that possibly be? Since there are no other factors that influence crime besides the right to CC, what is there to explain the crime rate in Alaska? We've been told that race and demographics have nothing to do with crime. Social and economic conditions have nothing to do with crime. Poverty, drugs, education etc have nothing to with crime. Just the right to CC.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Personally I don't think that everyone should have to do this in order to have a simple discussion. It's pretty sad when people post lies to deceive others. I'm not talking about the nonsense or joking around stuff, I think most of us do that, and it is usually quite obvious.

Everyone can tell when we are joking except some mods

Many states of have reciprocal cc laws

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Everyone can tell when we are joking except some mods

Many states of have reciprocal cc laws

True on both counts. But that doesn't change the IL CC claims. And I think that most of the regulars know when someone is joking. I don't see the wild claims made on IL CC being a joke, but that's just me.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

True on both counts. But that doesn't change the IL CC claims. And I think that most of the regulars know when someone is joking. I don't see the wild claims made on IL CC being a joke, but that's just me.

Agree on both counts

However We have many here that almost weekly make some claim that turns out to be not true. I have done it before. Often times they just insult when it is pointed out

Gary did it once and it has spawned so much interest. So many here are obsessed with the guy. Not you , but it is amazing