The ultimate in absurdity

[kaydee457 13]

U.S. judge turns down Saddam plea By MATT APUZZO, Associated Press Writer

24 minutes ago

A U.S. judge refused to stop Saddam Hussein's execution Friday, rejecting a last-minute court challenge by the former Iraqi president.

"Petitioner Hussein's application for immediate, temporary stay of execution is denied," U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly said after a hearing over the telephone with attorneys.

Saddam's lawyers filed the court challenge Friday afternoon, giving the judge just hours to act before the execution was expected to be carried out.

Saddam's attorneys argued that because the former Iraqi president also faced a civil lawsuit in Washington, he had rights as a civil defendant that would be violated if he is executed. He has not received notice of those rights and the consequences that the lawsuit would have on his estate, his attorneys said.

Kollar-Kotelly said U.S. courts do not have jurisdiction to interfere in another country's judicial process. The ruling can be appealed, but it was issued within an hour of the time Iraqi officials said they expected the execution to be carried out.

An appeal would go to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Washington D.C. Circuit, which denied a similar request for another top Iraqi official Friday.

Jeesh....Is this not crazy? Have the Liberals in this country moved to Iraq?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I guess your superior life experience doesn't extend to ethics and personal morality.

Human being. Human rights. No exceptions.

[peejay 327]

Jeesh....Is this not crazy? Have the Liberals in this country moved to Iraq?

No...as the article stated they are still here in the USA filing silly, frivilous, and useless lawsuits.

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

I guess your superior life experience doesn't extend to ethics and personal morality.

Human being. Human rights. No exceptions.

how does the us constitution cover him?

[kaydee457 13]

I guess your superior life experience doesn't extend to ethics and personal morality.

Human being. Human rights. No exceptions.

The point is that this man does not have "rights" in the U.S. and it's absurd to apeal to a U.S. court concerning a sentence metted out by an Iraqi court.

I suppose in your delusional world he does have rights....

The fact that I have more experience and practical knowledge concerning the arabic world really grates on you, doesn't it?

Get over it and quit whining and assimilate.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I guess your superior life experience doesn't extend to ethics and personal morality.

Human being. Human rights. No exceptions.

The point is that this man does not have "rights" in the U.S. and it's absurd to apeal to a U.S. court concerning a sentence metted out by an Iraqi court.

I suppose in your delusional world he does have rights....

The fact that I have more experience and practical knowledge concerning the arabic world really grates on you, doesn't it?

Get over it and quit whining and assimilate.

I would defer to your experience and practical knowledge if on any occasion you had actually demonstrated it rather than bragged about it....

Here's a tip... if you ever write a book...

show, don't tell

The only objection I had to this execution are the observations by independent observers that the trial was flawed and politically motivated, and that it was conducted by the judicial arm of a fledgling government which still does not have full control over the country, let alone the resources and means to properly (and transparently) investigate and prosecute the crimes of the regime. So Saddam and a half dozen other 50-60 year old men take the fall for everything.... Somehow I don't think they are the only ones who are guilty... But I'm sure you know different.

Edited December 30, 2006 by erekose

[kaydee457 13]

I guess your superior life experience doesn't extend to ethics and personal morality.

Human being. Human rights. No exceptions.

The point is that this man does not have "rights" in the U.S. and it's absurd to apeal to a U.S. court concerning a sentence metted out by an Iraqi court.

I suppose in your delusional world he does have rights....

The fact that I have more experience and practical knowledge concerning the arabic world really grates on you, doesn't it?

Get over it and quit whining and assimilate.

I would defer to your experience and practical knowledge if on any occasion you had actually demonstrated it rather than continually bragging about it....

Here's a tip... if you ever write a book...

show, don't tell

The only objection I had to this execution are the observations by independent observers that the trial was flawed and politically motivated, and that it was conducted by the judicial arm of a fledgling government which still does not have full control over the country, let alone the resources and means to properly (and transparently) investigate and prosecute the crimes of the regime. So Saddam and a half dozen other 50-60 year old men take the fall for everything.... Somehow I don't think they are the only ones who are guilty... But I'm sure you know different.

I'm sorry that I actually have some perspective concerning these issues based on practical knowledge and observations......

Do you wish that I defer to your uninformed opinons?

The only objection I had to this execution are the observations by independent observers that the trial was flawed and politically motivated, and that it was conducted by the judicial arm of a fledgling government which still does not have full control over the country, let alone the resources and means to properly (and transparently) investigate and prosecute the crimes of the regime. So Saddam and a half dozen other 50-60 year old men take the fall for everything.... Somehow I don't think they are the only ones who are guilty... But I'm sure you know different.

Well, regardless of your objections justice was meted out by the Iraqi's, and obviously in their view; humanely and fairly so.

Frankly, I don't think you know what you're talking about. No, I'll change that to say that I absolutely know you don't know what you're talking about.

You're not privy to any evidence of bias one way or another however once again looking down your snooty liberal nose and distorting reality to fit your expectations how things should be you wish to distort, and diminish the victory of the Iraqi's in finally achieving justice.

It must be frustrating for you liberals to never have events and circumstances actually reflect reality and to have to concoct inane excuses to explain away reality.....:sad:

Edited December 30, 2006 by kaydee457

[Alex+R 0]

Dear Kaydee,

I love travel stories. Tell me all about the experiences that inform your opinions.

Love,

Alex

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I'm sorry that I actually have some perspective concerning these issues based on practical knowledge and observations......

Do you wish that I defer to your uninformed opinons?

No Kaydee - I would, for once like to see you actually demonstrate this practical knowledge that you keep touting. I have never, ever actually seen you do that. I have however, heard you on several occasions bragging about it.

Well, regardless of your objections justice was meted out by the Iraqi's, and obviously in their view; humanely and fairly so.

Frankly, I don't think you know what you're talking about. No, I'll change that to say that I absolutely know you don't know what you're talking about.

You're not privy to any evidence of bias one way or another however once again looking down your snooty liberal nose and distorting reality to fit your expectations how things should be.

It must be frustrating for you liberals to never have events and circumstances actually reflect reality and to have to concoct inane excuses to explain away reality.....:sad:

The reality is that independent observers have criticised the independence of the trial. And before we get on to attacking the independence and "alleged agenda" of Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International and the UNHCR, please tell me why they would make this up...

If this was a show trial - please tell me how you think that executing the leaders of the regime before 25 years worth of atrocities have been properly investigated will help catching the very many people who "followed orders" and conducted those atrocities.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

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Edited December 30, 2006 by erekose

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

The reality is that independent observers have criticised the independence of the trial. And before we get on to attacking the independence and "alleged agenda" of Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International and the UNHCR, please tell me why they would make this up...

If this was a show trial - please tell me how you think that executing the leaders of the regime before 25 years worth of atrocities have been properly investigated will help catching the very many people who "followed orders" and conducted those atrocities.

That is the UNHCHR, for anyone who wants to point out the deliberate mistake.

[bucknekkid 0]

I'm sorry that I actually have some perspective concerning these issues based on practical knowledge and observations......

Do you wish that I defer to your uninformed opinons?

No Kaydee - I would, for once like to see you actually demonstrate this practical knowledge that you keep touting. I have never, ever actually seen you do that. I have however, heard you on several occasions bragging about it.

Well, regardless of your objections justice was meted out by the Iraqi's, and obviously in their view; humanely and fairly so.

Frankly, I don't think you know what you're talking about. No, I'll change that to say that I absolutely know you don't know what you're talking about.

You're not privy to any evidence of bias one way or another however once again looking down your snooty liberal nose and distorting reality to fit your expectations how things should be.

It must be frustrating for you liberals to never have events and circumstances actually reflect reality and to have to concoct inane excuses to explain away reality.....:sad:

The reality is that independent observers have criticised the independence of the trial. And before we get on to attacking the independence and "alleged agenda" of Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International and the UNHCR, please tell me why they would make this up...

If this was a show trial - please tell me how you think that executing the leaders of the regime before 25 years worth of atrocities have been properly investigated will help catching the very many people who "followed orders" and conducted those atrocities.

Once again you have proven that your a legend in your own mind......

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I'm sorry that I actually have some perspective concerning these issues based on practical knowledge and observations......

Do you wish that I defer to your uninformed opinons?

No Kaydee - I would, for once like to see you actually demonstrate this practical knowledge that you keep touting. I have never, ever actually seen you do that. I have however, heard you on several occasions bragging about it.

Well, regardless of your objections justice was meted out by the Iraqi's, and obviously in their view; humanely and fairly so.

Frankly, I don't think you know what you're talking about. No, I'll change that to say that I absolutely know you don't know what you're talking about.

You're not privy to any evidence of bias one way or another however once again looking down your snooty liberal nose and distorting reality to fit your expectations how things should be.

It must be frustrating for you liberals to never have events and circumstances actually reflect reality and to have to concoct inane excuses to explain away reality.....:sad:

The reality is that independent observers have criticised the independence of the trial. And before we get on to attacking the independence and "alleged agenda" of Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International and the UNHCR, please tell me why they would make this up...

If this was a show trial - please tell me how you think that executing the leaders of the regime before 25 years worth of atrocities have been properly investigated will help catching the very many people who "followed orders" and conducted those atrocities.

Once again you have proven that your a legend in your own mind......

How so?

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Kiss his ####### GOODBYE ,,,,,,,,,,EREKOSE! Dont forget the soldiers that saved your #######!

Edited December 30, 2006 by CarolsMarc

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Kiss his ####### GOODBYE ,,,,,,,,,,EREKOSE! Dont forget the soldiers that saved your #######!

Perhaps when you've sobered up a little, you'll be in the mood for a civilised discussion.