Murder trial to begin after man shoots teen following loud music spat

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

If it were a Black man shooting at whites, no one would dare make it a race issue with those facts alone.

You mean like the (black) guy who opened fire at the court house in Las Vegas because he thought his social security benefits had been suspended because of racism?

[Teddy B 17,252]

Well that simply isn't true, I'm afraid. Those guys were religious extremists who targeted the barracks because it was their specific intention to kill a soldier because they thought it would make some political point. I might as well say the Boston marathon bombing was part of your culture, but I won't because that's stupid.

You should really know what you're talking about before you set fingers to keyboard. You end up looking like a complete dunce.

He was an off duty soldier carrying his kit. The two guys ran him over with their car from behind and then hacked his unconscious body in the street.

So no, concealed carry would not have helped.

Again, know what you're talking about.

You mean like the (black) guy who opened fire at the court house in Las Vegas because he thought his social security benefits had been suspended because of racism?

Papa's on a tear!

[Merle 458]

He was an off duty soldier carrying his kit. The two guys ran him over with their car from behind and then hacked his unconscious body in the street.

So no, concealed carry would not have helped.

Again, know what you're talking about.

OK, well what if there was another responsible gun owner with a concealed carry that happened to be there at the scene? I'm sure those guys that killed the soldier will face some stiff British justice.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

OK, well what if there was another responsible gun owner with a concealed carry that happened to be there at the scene? I'm sure those guys that killed the soldier will face some stiff British justice.

What if? It happened next to a military base.

You'll be pleased to know that the police shot both men and they are now on trial.

[GandD 5,966]

OK, well what if there was another responsible gun owner with a concealed carry that happened to be there at the scene? I'm sure those guys that killed the soldier will face some stiff British justice.

Or a police officer..........

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Or a police officer..........

Which is what happened.

[Teddy B 17,252]

OK, well what if there was another responsible gun owner with a concealed carry that happened to be there at the scene? I'm sure those guys that killed the soldier will face some stiff British justice.

What if someone threw a stack of pancakes at the two attackers, I bet they would've stopped long enough to ask for syrup.

[Merle 458]

You guys crack me up. Hopefully none of you ever find yourselves in a situation where all you have is your superior debate, insult and sarcasm skills to defend yourself from some scum bag who wishes to do you or your family harm for no good reason.

[JohnR! 5,495]

What if someone threw a stack of pancakes at the two attackers, I bet they would've stopped long enough to ask for syrup.

As a purist I would go with pies...

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

You guys crack me up. Hopefully none of you ever find yourselves in a situation where all you have is your superior debate, insult and sarcasm skills to defend yourself from some scum bag who wishes to do you or your family harm for no good reason.

I don't live in fear of imminent threat - from black men or otherwise.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

You guys crack me up. Hopefully none of you ever find yourselves in a situation where all you have is your superior debate, insult and sarcasm skills to defend yourself from some scum bag who wishes to do you or your family harm for no good reason.

[Teddy B 17,252]

You guys crack me up. Hopefully none of you ever find yourselves in a situation where all you have is your superior debate, insult and sarcasm skills to defend yourself from some scum bag who wishes to do you or your family harm for no good reason.

There are other ways of defusing a situation and defending yourself other than with a gun. More often than not having a gun will make matters worse.

[Merle 458]

I don't live in fear of imminent threat - from black men or otherwise.

Neither do I. But I do live in the real world.

[Merle 458]

There are other ways of defusing a situation and defending yourself other than with a gun. More often than not having a gun will make matters worse.

Link to empirical study please.

[Teddy B 17,252]

As a purist I would go with pies...

Stooges!