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My wife is applying for citizenship and the only issue we have is the Oath. Apparently she needs a letter proving she is an active member of the Jehovah's Witnesses or something to prove that her religion prohibits her form taking up arms. I have no problem with writing up such a letter and having one of the "elders' sign it but I'd like see if there is anyone on this board that has experience with this. Maybe give me an example. Any help would be appreciated.

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My wife is applying for citizenship and the only issue we have is the Oath. Apparently she needs a letter proving she is an active member of the Jehovah's Witnesses or something to prove that her religion prohibits her form taking up arms. I have no problem with writing up such a letter and having one of the "elders' sign it but I'd like see if there is anyone on this board that has experience with this. Maybe give me an example. Any help would be appreciated.

See page 22 of this document: https://cliniclegal.org/sites/default/files/231718_clinic_02.pdf

Sorry - it does not seem to have made this a hyperlink....

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Ah...it was page 22 of the pdf page counter... Here is the cut and paste...
Special Groups Can Take a Modified Oath
If your religion and beliefs do not allow you to bear arms in defense of the
United States or you do not believe in taking an oath, you can ask to take
a modified oath.
If you do not believe in bearing arms, you can ask to take the oath without
the words, “I will bear arms.” If you are opposed to all military service, then
you can take the oath without the words, “I will perform noncombatant
services in the armed forces.”
If you are a Quaker, Jehovah’s Witness, or belong to another faith or religion
that does not believe in taking an oath, you can take a modified oath without
the words “on oath” or “so help me God.” You can use the words “solemnly
affirm” instead.
To take a modified oath without the words on bearing arms, you must
show USCIS:
You are opposed to any form of armed service in the military (if asking to
remove the words, “I will bear arms”);
You must make the change because of your religious or moral beliefs;
and
• Your beliefs are sincere and deeply held.
You will need to submit a written explanation of your beliefs and why
they require you to take a modified oath. If you are a member of an
organized faith, you should submit a letter from a minister of your faith
attesting to your membership and explaining the beliefs of your faith on
bearing arms.
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26-July-2018 - Oath Ceremony Scheduled

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Ah...it was page 22 of the pdf page counter... Here is the cut and paste...
Special Groups Can Take a Modified Oath
If your religion and beliefs do not allow you to bear arms in defense of the
United States or you do not believe in taking an oath, you can ask to take
a modified oath.
If you do not believe in bearing arms, you can ask to take the oath without
the words, “I will bear arms.” If you are opposed to all military service, then
you can take the oath without the words, “I will perform noncombatant
services in the armed forces.”
If you are a Quaker, Jehovah’s Witness, or belong to another faith or religion
that does not believe in taking an oath, you can take a modified oath without
the words “on oath” or “so help me God.” You can use the words “solemnly
affirm” instead.
To take a modified oath without the words on bearing arms, you must
show USCIS:
You are opposed to any form of armed service in the military (if asking to
remove the words, “I will bear arms”);
You must make the change because of your religious or moral beliefs;
and
• Your beliefs are sincere and deeply held.
You will need to submit a written explanation of your beliefs and why
they require you to take a modified oath. If you are a member of an
organized faith, you should submit a letter from a minister of your faith
attesting to your membership and explaining the beliefs of your faith on
bearing arms.
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On 2/2/2014 at 5:47 PM, Sukie said:
Ah...it was page 22 of the pdf page counter... Here is the cut and paste...
 
Special Groups Can Take a Modified Oath
If your religion and beliefs do not allow you to bear arms in defense of the
United States or you do not believe in taking an oath, you can ask to take
a modified oath.
 
If you do not believe in bearing arms, you can ask to take the oath without
the words, “I will bear arms.” If you are opposed to all military service, then
you can take the oath without the words, “I will perform noncombatant
services in the armed forces.”
 
If you are a Quaker, Jehovah’s Witness, or belong to another faith or religion
that does not believe in taking an oath, you can take a modified oath without
the words “on oath” or “so help me God.” You can use the words “solemnly
affirm” instead.
 
To take a modified oath without the words on bearing arms, you must
show USCIS:
You are opposed to any form of armed service in the military (if asking to
remove the words, “I will bear arms”);
You must make the change because of your religious or moral beliefs;
and
 
• Your beliefs are sincere and deeply held.
You will need to submit a written explanation of your beliefs and why
they require you to take a modified oath. If you are a member of an
organized faith, you should submit a letter from a minister of your faith
attesting to your membership and explaining the beliefs of your faith on
bearing arms.

I found this thread because I was looking for more information about the matter.

I answered the question about wanting to bear arms with a no.

During the naturalization interview the officer asked me why I answered with a no and I said because of my belief. He then asked me what my belief was called. It is a personal belief, I am not religious but I don't believe in violence, but he wanted a name. So I told him that it comes closest to Buddhism. I had to sign a form stating that I do not want to bear arms. He did not ask for a written explanation.

The interview was early december 2020. I got a notice a week later saying my oath ceremony will be scheduled. I didn't think it would be such a big deal but now my online file says that the waiting time is 7 months!

 

Does anyone have experience with this other than what I found here? I know this thread is old but perhaps someone else knows.

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02/21/2020 - Filed N400

02/22/2020 - Biometrics appointment scheduled

02/28/2020 - paper NOA and Biometrics letter received

03/13/2020 - Biometrics appointment

03/06/2020 - Succesfull walk in Biometrics

10/23/2020 - Received appointment letter online 

12/03/2020 - Interview appointment 

12/10/2020 - Received notice that oath ceremony will be scheduled 

01/21/2021 - Uploaded statement about objection to bear arms

01/22/2021 - Received notice that invitation to oath ceremony has been sent

01/28/2020 - Received letter in the mail with invitation to oath ceremony

02/05/2021 - Oath Ceremony

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