Woody Allen - Worthy of an award, or prison?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

First of all, you are assuming guilt contrary to our American tradition.

Secondly, how dare you question two people who are in love and want to enjoy the same rights as everyone else (well, not "everyone" just yet).

Thirdly, you guys are Frickin confusing...... do we pass judgment on other peoples life choices or not?

Fourthly, as far as the abuse charges, I have not looked into the case thoroughly but a few things jumped out at me.

Why did the mother question her daughters accusations?, Why did they decline to pursue charges?

I have no idea what went on, but we do know it is a lot easier to accuse someone of such a thing than it is to defend yourself from the charge.

If Woody Allen could say what he wanted I wonder if he might reveal some details worth knowing?

If I were betting money I would bet he did it, but that is based on a hunch more than reading into the facts available.

Oh ditch the affected outrage why dont you. This is quite possibly the cheapest argument you've cooked up yet. You seriously believe there is a point to be made about consent in a story about alleged (I used that word previously for a reason) sexual abuse in relation to Allen having a sexual relationship with a girl who was effectively his step daughter from the age of 8. You don't think that calls into question his decision making?

What's more you're willing to bet that the guy did it, yet you won't question his relationship with Soon Yi. That's bullshit.

[GandD 5,966]

Of course we agree.

However what about all the bumperstickers which taught a more open minded way to approach love? Who are we to judge as long as the two are consenting adults?

It's human right..... who are we to show bigotry when they only want to love each other?

Anyway, one can find a lot more consistencies in nature between an older male pairing up with a much younger female than between two males tying-off.

Examples of bumper stickers

"Horn broken, watch for finger"

"My kid beat up your honor role student"

"Work is for people who don't know how to fish"

"Hell is real"

"Hope"

"My Ferrari is in the shop"

"W"

"At least I can still smoke in my car"

[Pooky 3,840]

Examples of bumper stickers

"Horn broken, watch for finger"

"My kid beat up your honor role student"

"Work is for people who don't know how to fish"

"Hell is real"

"Hope"

"My Ferrari is in the shop"

"W"

"At least I can still smoke in my car"

Seen on the back of a Ducati 1198

"If you can read this, you're faster than you look"

Woody Allen won't be fast enough if he gets sent down.

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

Amazing how some people are so darn hypocritical. A woman has the right to kill a kid in her womb for ANY reason she wants to. None of anyone else's business.

But a man who marries a girl 37 years his junior, and he is just wrong. No way around it. But no one seems to give a ** that they have been married for 17 years (together for 23). That's longer than most people on this site, I'd bet.

Let's keep this about the alleged child abuse, eh? We shall see if Dylan has a case against Woody, or a case of "I want more money"...

[Karee 4,191]

Several folks on here with those age differences. Asians in general seem to prefer older men.

You think it's the older men they prefer, or the financial security that goes with it?

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

You think it's the older men they prefer, or the financial security that goes with it?

Yes.

Though financial security is probably not #1; I'd say it was emotional maturity. Older men tend not to stray so much, and to many women, that is important. I'd wager more women want a guy who isn't rich, but financially comfortable, ESPECIALLY if he will be faithful to them. Less money, more fidelity. Perhaps some of the RUBs or CABAs will weigh in here and confirm/deny my theory. Just my experience.

Not sure if a direct correlation can be drawn between older age and financial accomplishment, though in many cases it's probably true. But I have seen older guys who had less than I did at 30...

[GandD 5,966]

Amazing how some people are so darn hypocritical. A woman has the right to kill a kid in her womb for ANY reason she wants to. None of anyone else's business.

But a man who marries a girl 37 years his junior, and he is just wrong. No way around it. But no one seems to give a ** that they have been married for 17 years (together for 23). That's longer than most people on this site, I'd bet.

Let's keep this about the alleged child abuse, eh? We shall see if Dylan has a case against Woody, or a case of "I want more money"...

Trying to tie this in to abortion is flimsy at best

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Usually when age is that far apart, someone's getting tricked. But not always.

A 56 year old man with a 19 year old man gets the same scrutiny from me as a 56 year old man with a 19 year old woman or 56 year old woman with a 19 year old man.

56 year old woman with a 19 year old man

well 19 will go into 56 more times than 56 will go into 19

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Amazing how some people are so darn hypocritical. A woman has the right to kill a kid in her womb for ANY reason she wants to. None of anyone else's business.

But a man who marries a girl 37 years his junior, and he is just wrong. No way around it. But no one seems to give a ** that they have been married for 17 years (together for 23). That's longer than most people on this site, I'd bet.

Let's keep this about the alleged child abuse, eh? We shall see if Dylan has a case against Woody, or a case of "I want more money"...

No Dave, just no.

The issue isn't a man marrying a woman 37 years his junior, its that the woman in question was his girlfriend's adopted daughter that he knew from the age of 8. Effectively she would have been his stepfather, even though that's not something you want to acknowledge (not of course because it doesnt have relevance but because I happened to say it - that's the level of argument you are putting forward here). It also has nothing to do with abortion, so you can drop that ####### as well.

Allen's relationship with Soon Yi was highly controversial (and it was, unless you're going to deny that as well) because as her adopted mother's partner he was in a position of authority over the girl, so at best pursuing the relationship was inappropriate (poor judgment, as I said), predatory at worst. The allegations of sexual abuse that have hung over Allen for decades do not help this picture.

Did Allen abuse his stepdaughter? I have no idea, but if like danno you're willing to bet that he did do it would it not cast a sinister light on his relationship with his other 'daughter' as well? Or are you going to deny that also?

Edited February 3, 2014 by Papa Lazarou

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Trying to tie this in to abortion is flimsy at best

That's Dave for you - flimsy, superficial and petty.

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

Trying to tie this in to abortion is flimsy at best

It's all about free choice, G. Or D.

[Danno 1,228]

It's all about free choice, G. Or D.

Not for some., as you might have noticed the very people who rail on the loudest for "some people" to have free choice, turn right around and pass judgements on other peoples moral decisions.

If we have heard anything from the Left it is this; People should be free to live their lives as they find moral.

And then you have a case where a man marries a step-daughter... and the first things these folks do is get all hateful.

I of course, have always been able to make such judgements and not only that but I can articulate "why." (something they flounder all over the place trying to do.)

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Not for some., as you might have noticed the very people who rail on the loudest for "some people" to have free choice, turn right around and pass judgements on other peoples moral decisions.

If we have heard anything from the Left it is this; People should be free to live their lives as they find moral.

And then you have a case where a man marries a step-daughter... and the first things these folks do is get all hateful.

I of course, have always been able to make such judgements and not only that but I can articulate "why." (something they flounder all over the place trying to do.)

For someone who espouses so much morality, you're full of hatred for anything that you don't agree with.

[Danno 1,228]

For someone who espouses so much morality, you're full of hatred for anything that you don't agree with.

Thats just not true at all.

I think the reasonable person would realize we all have a wide range of reactions from things we love to things we hate..... yet in the liberals mind

there can be nothing but extremes.

I don't like Seafood but I am happy that other do.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Thats just not true at all.

I think the reasonable person would realize we all have a wide range of reactions from things we love to things we hate..... yet in the liberals mind

there can be nothing but extremes.

I don't like Seafood but I am happy that other do.

Why do you paint liberals with a broad paint brush? The most extreme folks on this site identify with being a conservative.