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Ignore the facts and evidence. Worked out well in the past. "But we cant get a fair shake in court because they ignore the evidence."

And how should self defense laws work?

You should get up on the stand and explain it. But, SYG requires that, and it's the reason why GZ didn't invoke the law.

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Oh, I get it now. You guys are trying to get a law you know nothing about, that wasnt even used in the trial, removed based on.....

Shoot.

Maybe I dont get it. For a moment there I thought you mightve had a point. Guess youre still grasping at thin air and repeating whatever the race baiters on tv tell you to feel.

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Oh, I get it now. You guys are trying to get a law you know nothing about, that wasnt even used in the trial, removed based on.....

Shoot.

Maybe I dont get it. For a moment there I thought you mightve had a point. Guess youre still grasping at thin air and repeating whatever the race baiters on tv tell you to feel.

I did my research on SYG. It was used in the Dooley/James shooting. He invoked it, and had to explain what happened.

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Oh, I get it now. You guys are trying to get a law you know nothing about, that wasnt even used in the trial, removed based on.....

Shoot.

Maybe I dont get it. For a moment there I thought you mightve had a point. Guess youre still grasping at thin air and repeating whatever the race baiters on tv tell you to feel.

Let's see.... You think school teachers should be armed and that kids massacred in a school shooting were cowards.

So no, I don't hold out much hope of a reasonable conversation.

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Experts. The lot of ya!

I agree there will be no reasonable conversation because it is unreasonable to waive our 2nd Amendment rights.

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Ensure your beneficiary makes and brings with them to the States a copy of the DS-3025 (vaccination form)

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Kind of like claiming CC reduced crime in a city when it hasn't been implemented yet. That's baffling.

Still waiting for that proof.

I have posted the proof several times. I shall not waste my time doing so again.

Marvin, I am content that some people are never satisfied and never happy. Maybe they are happy being unhappy, I don't know. I accept this and do not waste my time trying to please them. F%k 'em, let them be miserable. Let's just say I could never work in retail sales.

The incident of TM brutally assaulting GZ was investigated for 2 months (during which time you knew nothing about it because you really couldn't possibly care less about TM) After that time and after reviewing all the evidence the prosecution declined to press charges as they felt GZ had justifiably killed a person that tried to murder him.

This brought out the racial arsonists and hoplophobes who demanded that GZ be prosecuted. Candlelight vigils and increased hoodie sales...none of which happened for more than 2 months after he was killed in self defense while attacking his neighbor. They searched high and low and finally found a prosecutor with no ethics who avoided the grand jury indictment process. They then staged a show trial to satisfy people like YOU. (and sell commercial time on TV) All of the evidence you saw at the trial was known before the trial. It's called "discovery" and the prosecution must reveal all their evidence to the defense and the witness list and what the witness will testify to. They knew that DiDi was a lame witness that could not read or write and embarrassed her anyway...to please YOU. They knew the neighbor would tell of how TM was brutally assaulting GZ. They knew there was no witness to "who started it" they knew everything you saw. They knew GZ would be acquitted. I told you that before he was charged. They could not have convicted him for jaywalking!

Marvin, there was never any possibility that GZ would be convicted. None. Every step taken by the prosecution SCREAMED that from the beginning.

Most of life's disappointments are caused by unreasonable expectations. You expected GZ to be convicted, when everyone who knows anything knew he wouldn't be. You still try to argue it.

After spending millions of dollars and depriving a man of his rights for a year, you STILL are not satisfied. Who knew? And you want me to post the same proof....AGAIN? Oh, please.

Personally I am happy that the crime in Chicago has gone down. 92 less young black men were killed in 2013, that's good news for me.

Experts. The lot of ya!

I agree there will be no reasonable conversation because it is unreasonable to waive our 2nd Amendment rights.

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I have posted the proof several times. I shall not waste my time doing so again.

Marvin, I am content that some people are never satisfied and never happy. Maybe they are happy being unhappy, I don't know. I accept this and do not waste my time trying to please them. F%k 'em, let them be miserable. Let's just say I could never work in retail sales.

The incident of TM brutally assaulting GZ was investigated for 2 months (during which time you knew nothing about it because you really couldn't possibly care less about TM) After that time and after reviewing all the evidence the prosecution declined to press charges as they felt GZ had justifiably killed a person that tried to murder him.

This brought out the racial arsonists and hoplophobes who demanded that GZ be prosecuted. Candlelight vigils and increased hoodie sales...none of which happened for more than 2 months after he was killed in self defense while attacking his neighbor. They searched high and low and finally found a prosecutor with no ethics who avoided the grand jury indictment process. They then staged a show trial to satisfy people like YOU. (and sell commercial time on TV) All of the evidence you saw at the trial was known before the trial. It's called "discovery" and the prosecution must reveal all their evidence to the defense and the witness list and what the witness will testify to. They knew that DiDi was a lame witness that could not read or write and embarrassed her anyway...to please YOU. They knew the neighbor would tell of how TM was brutally assaulting GZ. They knew there was no witness to "who started it" they knew everything you saw. They knew GZ would be acquitted. I told you that before he was charged. They could not have convicted him for jaywalking!

Marvin, there was never any possibility that GZ would be convicted. None.

Most of life's disappointments are caused by unreasonable expectations. You expected GZ to be convicted, when everyone who knows anything knew he wouldn't be. You still try to argue it.

After spending millions of dollars and depriving a man of his rights for a year, you STILL are not satisfied. Who knew? And you want me to post the same proof....AGAIN? Oh, please.

Personally I am happy that the crime in Chicago has gone down. 92 less young black men were killed in 2013, that's good news for me.

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NOT. Negotiable.

Actually you haven't. I have yet to see a link that said CC reduces crime. And since you responded, why don't you answer my question about those kids being killed? How does CC help them?

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

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You should get up on the stand and explain it. But, SYG requires that, and it's the reason why GZ didn't invoke the law.

Not really. A disappointed person may argue that to make themselves feel better but it really isn't so.

TM was on top of GZ pounding the ####### out of him and smashing his head on the sidewalk. Any person in that situation would be reasonable to conclude he was in danger of "death or severe bodily injury" and that is what is needed, ALL that is needed, to support the use of deadly force. Why invoke SYG which is a defense against the need to "retreat" when there is no reasonable way to "retreat" when you are being held down and your head smashed?

If you do not like the laws, CHANGE THE LAWS! SYG is entirely different than the requirement for the use of deadly force. GZ would have easily been justified to defend himself in ANY state (SYG law or not) under the circumstances.

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Isn't CC in Illinois like JUST being implemented now? How can it get credited with a drop in the crime rate already? Explain.

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This guy is still in the news?

No we are still in our endless loop of

F. You said this

No I didn't

Yeah you did

Nu uh

Yu huh

Nope

Yep

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You're dumb

You can't read

I'm done with you

Good

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Actually you haven't. I have yet to see a link that said CC reduces crime. And since you responded, why don't you answer my question about those kids being killed? How does CC help them?

As I explained Marvin, I will no longer attempt to satisfy you. I can't. I'm OK with that.

As far as children go, Vermont is the safest state for children and everyone can carry concealed handguns. We have the lowest rates of child abuse, abduction and exploitation in the USA. Our children can safely walk anywhere in the city and never be bothered. Anyone over the age of 16 can carry a concealed handgun without a permit or license.

On the other hand we do have to worry about them drowning while playing in the crystal clear Lake Champlain or getting injured while snowboarding, storm kiting and stuff like that. Each place presents iots own challenges. Can you kids walk around anywhere in St Louis?

I chose to live here because it is a safe place for my family and a great place for an education for the children.

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As I explained Marvin, I will no longer attempt to satisfy you. I can't. I'm OK with that.

As far as children go, Vermont is the safest state for children and everyone can carry concealed handguns. We have the lowest rates of child abuse, abduction and exploitation in the USA. Our children can safely walk anywhere in the city and never be bothered. Anyone over the age of 16 can carry a concealed handgun without a permit or license.

On the other hand we do have to worry about them drowning while playing in the crystal clear Lake Champlain or getting injured while snowboarding, storm kiting and stuff like that. Each place presents iots own challenges. Can you kids walk around anywhere in St Louis?

I chose to live here because it is a safe place for my family and a great place for an education for the children.

As someone who usually agrees with you, I would also like to see how CC helped reduce gun crime in Chicago? I call them like I see them and you are ducking that one. If you mis spoke be a man and admit. Don't be like the liberals and duck the subject. I expect better from my fellow conservative liberterians.

You are sounding like MBD

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