More ABORTION restrictions coming ........RUSSIA (As predicted)

[Danno 1,228]

Russian Health Ministry plans to set up pregnancy centers to lower abortion rate

MOSCOW, January 29, 2014 (LifeSiteNews.com) – In its continuing effort to boost its birth rate, the Russian government is looking at setting up crisis pregnancy centers to help dissuade women from abortion.

"The Health Ministry supports the creation of crisis centers for pregnant women, where they can get professional counseling from social workers. We think that this is the most promising and humane way of reducing the number of abortions," said Elena Baibarina, the head of the Health Ministry's Department for Health Care for Children and Obstetric Aid, according to a RIA Novosti report.

"The number of abortions in Russia is going down. The 2008 figure was 1.2 million, while in 2012 it dropped down to 935,000. But it is still too high, which also contributes to infertility issues," Baibarina said.

Prominent Russian demographer Veniamin Bashlachev toldRossiyskaya Gazeta that Russia's population loss through abortion in the decades leading up to the fall of communism was two and a half times the number of lives Russia lost in the First World War, the Russian Revolution and the Second World War combined. Abortions in the 1960s to the end of the 1980s averaged more than 4.5 million a year.

By 2011 the Russian population stood at 143 million people, down by 5.7 million since the break-up of the Soviet Union in 1991.

To combat the abortion epidemic, the Russian government has proposed legislation that would ban free abortions at government-run health clinics, require prescriptions for the ‘morning-after’ pill, require parental consent for teenagers and a husband’s consent for married women, and mandate a one-week waiting period before an abortion is performed.

Other proposals have included increasing the 2,000 ruble ($70) monthly government subsidy offered to pregnant women.

Late last year Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a law banning abortion advertising.

The abortion ad ban was part of broader changes to Russia’s Federal Law on Advertising that tightened up many aspects of advertising seen as having a negative impact on the population, such as campaigns offering free drug samples if these samples contain narcotic or psychotropic substances, and restrictions on the advertising of traditional "folk medicine" practices.

Steven Mosher, President of the Population Research Institute, pointed out that despite government incentives such as a baby bonus that offers the equivalent of $9,000 upon the birth of every child after the first, and calls from President Putin for families to have at least three children, abortion is still occurring in epidemic proportions.

"As long as society fails to recognize the value of human life, and wantonly destroys it in large numbers, it will be difficult to establish a new three-child norm. Abortion must cease being a way of life in Russia if her people are to survive," Mosher said.

Pro-life legislation aimed at rolling back Russia’s abortion culture has been strongly supported by the Russian Orthodox Church.

Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and All Russia proposed a series of measures on the Moscow Patriarchate’s website, urging the Ministry of Health and Social Development to make “preservation of pregnancy a priority task for the doctor” and discourage incentives for abortion.

The Russian patriarch also advocated state support for pro-motherhood media campaigns, and early on suggested setting up crisis pregnancy centers in every maternity hospital to help “lonely mothers in difficult life situations.”

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[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Good for Russia. What an enlightened place to live.

[Danno 1,228]

Good for Russia. What an enlightened place to live.

As we are in decline, will we throw rocks at those who choose another path?

[mota bhai 2,675]

Russia has a demographics problem so I can understand them wanting to boost their birth rate.

Thanks to America's tradition of immigration, we don't really have that problem. So we can safely leave the killing fields open.

[Danno 1,228]

Russia has a demographics problem so I can understand them wanting to boost their birth rate.

Thanks to America's tradition of immigration, we don't really have that problem. So we can safely leave the killing fields open.

You always have a neat way of putting things into perspective.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

As we are in decline, will we throw rocks at those who choose another path?

Extremists? Sure, Danno

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

Gee, a woman needs her husband's consent if she's married. I can't see how that could possibly go wrong.

Who said a woman had any control over her bodily integrity anyway? Uppity females always trying to get above their station.

[Danno 1,228]

Gee, a woman needs her husband's consent if she's married. I can't see how that could possibly go wrong.

Who said a woman had any control over her bodily integrity anyway? Uppity females always trying to get above their station.

While you might disagree....

A lot of people see the growth inside of her as a separate "body", complete with it;'s own DNA organs, hair and fingernails.

That little human being is also 50% of the husbands creation.

Many people feel the husband who has taken all the steps to be responsible, also has a stake in the life of it.

I respect that you disagree, you feel a women should have complete control of her body... to do what she wants with it and to anything inside of it.

But one wonders why no protest at laws which prevent a woman from selling an organ or from getting a tattoo on any part of her body.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

We do disagree. But you assume that in every situation it would be safe for a woman to tell her husband she was pregnant.

[Danno 1,228]

We do disagree. But you assume that in every situation it would be safe for a woman to tell her husband she was pregnant.

When we set laws concerning speed limits we understand that in an emergency someone might "on the rare occasion" need to exceed that limit.....

yet is does not prevent us from writing traffic laws which serve the "greater interest."

One would suppose a reasonable accommodation could be made in law to facilitate couples who are legally separated, the Husband has a history of abuse or a number of other instances.

Mr Accommodation.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

When we set laws concerning speed limits we understand that in an emergency someone might "on the rare occasion" need to exceed that limit.....

yet is does not prevent us from writing traffic laws which serve the "greater interest."

One would suppose a reasonable accommodation could be made in law to facilitate couples who are legally separated, the Husband has a history of abuse or a number of other instances.

Mr Accommodation.

It still reduces women to a level lower than that of men and perpetuates in law the concept of women as chattel -- first of their fathers, then their husbands. Although you and I disagree about a woman's right to direct what is done to her body, I would think that you would agree that making adult women lesser than men legally is neither desirable nor a point of pride for any legal system.

Should men seeking vasectomies have the written consent of their wives or face prosecution?

[Peikko 1,575]

It still reduces women to a level lower than that of men and perpetuates in law the concept of women as chattel -- first of their fathers, then their husbands. Although you and I disagree about a woman's right to direct what is done to her body, I would think that you would agree that making adult women lesser than men legally is neither desirable nor a point of pride for any legal system.

Should men seeking vasectomies have the written consent of their wives or face prosecution?

When she's right, she's right, and here, she's right.

[Ban Hammer 13,599]

Should men seeking vasectomies have the written consent of their wives or face prosecution?

in some cases, the doctor won't perform the operation without consent of the wife.

[JohnR! 5,495]

Good for Russia! Slowly but surely they are heading into the 1950's!

One of these days Russian women may even be allowed to speak freely!

Edited January 31, 2014 by Gegel

[Danno 1,228]

It still reduces women to a level lower than that of men and perpetuates in law the concept of women as chattel -- first of their fathers, then their husbands. Although you and I disagree about a woman's right to direct what is done to her body, I would think that you would agree that making adult women lesser than men legally is neither desirable nor a point of pride for any legal system.

Should men seeking vasectomies have the written consent of their wives or face prosecution?

This has nothing to do with anyone being a lesser level person.

I think where we go wrong is to assume a marriage is made up of two independent partners.

Both Law and tradition do not see it that way.

If I were to enter into a business contract with another person everything which effects the business both partners have a right to know about.

Marriage is even more profound (by law) than a simple contract, and in some ways more confining.

Law has always supposed that the creation of children was the assumed purpose of marriage even if recent pop culture has drifted from that.

For instance many states allowed annulment and divorce only for such grounds of concealing the inability to create children, for being homosexual, for getting sentenced to prison, abandonment and a whole lot of other things that impact the marriage.

Just as money created or things acquired "in the marriage" are "joint property" so might some jurisdictions see the unborn as well.

So it has more to do with committing yourself to the unique nature of "marriage" and when we join any partnership we limit our independent nature in some ways.... hopefully for a greater benefit.

marriage |ˈmarij|noun

1 the formal union of a man and a woman, typically recognized by law, by which they becomehusband and wife.

2 a combination or mixture of two or more elements: a marriage of jazz, pop, blues, and gospel.

Q:Should men seeking vasectomies have the written consent of their wives or face prosecution?

It would seem reasonable that neither party to a marriage could covertly end the possibility of producing children especially when it is such a fundamental expectation of marriage.

Perhaps "permission" should not be required but "notification" should be required to the spouse in such cases.

Again people join as one in the marriage partnership, both parties have an interest in those fundamental matters.

Good for Russia! Slowly but surely they are heading into the 1950's!

One of these days Russian women may even be allowed to speak freely!

Ahh yes, the use of sexual minorities to slander.... Class act/