Vawa Part 5

[NorthArcher 1]

Thank you melanieuk and sandra.

I will send a detailed notarized letter to let them know about my change of address and to ask them to resend my RFE letter.

Thanks again!!!

[Sandra G. 5,057]

Melanie UK

To prove abuse

If you are filing based in physical abuse and you do not have a police report,and/or restraining order then the case is weak.

If you are filing based in mental abuse and did not submit a psychological evaluation then the case is weak

If you are filing based in mental abuse and don't have a diagnose of post traumatic disorder or major depression the case is weak.

To prove bonafide marriage

If you don't have commingling finances the case is weak

if you don't have affidavits from friends of family stating bonafide marriage the case is weak.

Some people did not have commingling finances and I was able to explain why the alien did not have the commingling finances,and the cases were approved.

Edited August 24, 2014 by sandranj

[Czzr 13]

hey everyone!

thisismylife CONGRATS! i know u must be excited!! i know i was when i got myn i couldnt stop looking at it!

i noticed that in the back (shiny side) u can see all the presidents of the usa! its soo cool!

How is everyone doing?

[Thisislife 31]

hey everyone!

thisismylife CONGRATS! i know u must be excited!! i know i was when i got myn i couldnt stop looking at it!

i noticed that in the back (shiny side) u can see all the presidents of the usa! its soo cool!

How is everyone doing?

Really....When you mentioned this I checked the back of my card n the strip and all I can see is my face with my info on it....I hope I didn't receive a GC for Timbuktu ...lol...

[Cindy29 1]

I am having a rant. I am getting ready to file my vawa case in the middle of September hopefully. I am being put through the pace here. I was seeing a social worker who gave me a hard time instead of helping. All everyone keeps saying why don't you go back to your country. I am so frustrated because I didn't realise how incompetent, and uneducated these people of authority are. This woman wasted my time and money for over 2 months and then told me that it is up to her whether she wants to write an evaluation or not. She said I have to be attending therapy session for a year or more before she consider writing an evaluation and that people who do evaluation after seeing someone for a short amount of time is breaking the moral code of ethic. Moral and America in the same sentence unbelievable. What a joke. An abused immigrant with no job and very little money to travel to manhattan every single week and pay for therapy plus LIRR fare. Omg. I am livid. Now this ####### new psychologist is trying to extort even further cash that I already don't have to write an evaluation. I am appalled to know that an evaluation is costing $2800 to write. Instead of here trying to find write the evaluation because I didn't show up at the office with stink breathe and smelly and looking pretty rough she has a totally different outlook and what my life use to be. YEs I had a comfortable life before. This is the aftermath which I am trying to make the best of a bad situation. No one knows the pain inside and the aches that you feel.

A PHD is to write a lot of none-sense on a piece of headed paper and a signature, stamp that has PHD. By God am going to try and get a PHD too. PHD knows about your life and then that is who immigration officer are going to believe. To show you how mentally twisted these people are, and then they talk about morals. Most of us would never even see a shrink had we not been in a messed up marriage. In reality what does the shrink do? But because you need to become legal it is a protocol that a shrink is involved. Wow. These people try to control us by telling us to pay for a shrink to extort money from us to prove that we have been sexually, financially, emotionally, and skull cracked abused. I am so angry right now. The next legislation that should pass is get a shrink to live with you and take the physical, sexually,mental abuse etc and then they will get a better understanding and write fantastic reports. Because some educated people still don't think that mental abuse is classed as abuse.

Some of these shrinks has no idea how to write a report or even there name. Have you ever heard of google? but they are happy to take your money and write and lot of that does not even help your case. They didn't have to live with you nor your abuser nor do they have to leave and go to a shelter with their young kid and be further subject to more degradation by mainly born and bread Americans who thinks you are trying to get into their country and take their jobs and money. I have come to realise that people here are intimidated by you if you are educated take no bullshit and have a advance level of common sense. I have been told by catholic charities NYC, empire justice center NYC, city bar justice center NYC and even my paid psychologist that if my skull is not cracked and I am not escorted out on a gurney or in a body bag then I should just pack up my stuff and go home because the American dream that I am chasing is not worth it. The psychologist has to cheek to tell me that there are plenty of struggling american lawyers here who cannot get work so why do I think I am special enough to get jobs over american citizens. Wow unbelievable unintelligence at its best.

I am really depress and my body is really weak this entire nonsense is taking a toll on my mental state of mind. Am I the only one who find myself in this situation or is everyone else gets put to the test. I am struggling frustrated and my tear ducts are completely dried up. I am stretch to the limit and for the first time in my life I have no fight left in me. My funds are completely depleted. I was only allowed to stay in the shelter 90 days I lasted a month. Everyone keeps asking the same dumb question do you have any family or friends that can help you out. Give you money or let you have free rent. If there were would I be going to organisations reaching out for assistance? NO

A lot of people have different opinions on your situation and what you should do. I have exhausted most of the avenues that I can think of. The best part of it is I have ovarian cyst that the hospital said I have to wait until it get bigger before they take it out. I look like I am six months pregnant with this thing. Oh I forgot to mention instead of paying for my wisdom tooth to be extracted I paid the ####### psychologist who then turns round and say that my money is not enough and that I have to wait until the first week of September to get the evaluation. She said if I needed an expedite report I would have to pay $800 more because she has bigger projects working on that pays way more than what I am paying her. I now get a clearer understanding of why when people go off and do some really twisted I wonder why. This is why and this is what makes me mad. They bullshit you about needing this report when in fact they are the ones driving you mad with the sarcastic and patronising comments. They want to put me on anti-depressant tablets and send me to see a psychiatrist now. Can you believe this. This is so taboo where I am from but if that is what it takes then you have to play along with the none-sense to get sense. Oh and I forgot to say the court has place a temporary protective order in place from my husband and they can't find him to serve the order because he knows the system that well he beats them to it. He no longer works where he use to. i have been going to court since June 2014 only to get the case adjourned because they cannot find my husband. I have another court date 8/25/14 and instead of the judge putting something in place he keeps adjourning it wasting my time. My husband keeps sending me letters, threatening emails etc all because he has a stay away order not a non-communication order so he his till legally able to harass the out out me. OMG no justice no peace. I feel as he his winning and they are all on his side.

I am so tired and over frustrated right no it not funny anymore I feel like this is another form of abuse. Am I being mellow dramatic or am I really going mad here?

[Casper54 5]

Cindy29 we are all here to assist you with any questions you have...paying $2800 for an evaluation is no good, that's just a rip off..I'm sure there many people here who have paid less then that and make ur your evaluation is in detail at least 10 to 12 pages please.Anybody else have some good input to help her please do...thanks

Edited August 24, 2014 by Casper54

[melanieuk 19]

Cindy, I totally get where you're coming from, I've been there myself. Still, if cash is a problem, try to file everything that you have right now without the "stupid" evaluation and with the prima facie determination, you're able to apply for cash assistance and medicaid in New York. You can always add more documents to your case later on. Do not forget the police clearance.

Edited August 24, 2014 by melanieuk

[KleberP 0]

To anyone reading this, be very careful to whom you ask for help with your case. Some so called domestic violence services will just laugh at your face and waste your time. And if you're from abroad, it is perceived as a benefit and then, for them, you gotta be lying.

[Iop 2]

Cindy29

"I am so frustrated because I didn't realise how incompetent, and uneducated these people of authority are."

- Amen to that! It is true that a lot of people are really superficial in their knowledge, but the is how the world works, and if you want to do something right, do it yourself. As for evaluation, the bottom line is that you either decide that you need it or you do not need it, right now there is no time for you to bargain - you have to get yourself together and decide what you will do, either go to a different psychologist or pay more to this one (and people here pay different prices I am sure, it is like lawer's fee - it varies,there are standards, but it still varies - the bottom line, you cannot win the lottery and have everything cheap and good).

"Moral and America in the same sentence unbelievable."

This really confuses me. I hate USCIS for being slow and so unorganized, but you would see my feet flashing trying to run away from the country that has no morals...What keeps you here? That was rhetorical, you don't have to answer

All in all, I think you need to find a free therapy groups for domestic violence survivors, it helps me, I can see you need it too!

KleberP

I think it is:

1) very reckless to advise somebody against evaluation because you cannot guarantee he or she will get approved without it...

2) extremely rude to publish private messages without other's person consent. Plus you are talking about Sandra (Oh no...you didn't!!!!!!)...she is practically a cement of this thread! A lot of people ere are willing to stand up because she is no bullsh*t!

[Thisislife 31]

I am having a rant. I am getting ready to file my vawa case in the middle of September hopefully. I am being put through the pace here. I was seeing a social worker who gave me a hard time instead of helping. All everyone keeps saying why don't you go back to your country. I am so frustrated because I didn't realise how incompetent, and uneducated these people of authority are. This woman wasted my time and money for over 2 months and then told me that it is up to her whether she wants to write an evaluation or not. She said I have to be attending therapy session for a year or more before she consider writing an evaluation and that people who do evaluation after seeing someone for a short amount of time is breaking the moral code of ethic. Moral and America in the same sentence unbelievable. What a joke. An abused immigrant with no job and very little money to travel to manhattan every single week and pay for therapy plus LIRR fare. Omg. I am livid. Now this ####### new psychologist is trying to extort even further cash that I already don't have to write an evaluation. I am appalled to know that an evaluation is costing $2800 to write. Instead of here trying to find write the evaluation because I didn't show up at the office with stink breathe and smelly and looking pretty rough she has a totally different outlook and what my life use to be. YEs I had a comfortable life before. This is the aftermath which I am trying to make the best of a bad situation. No one knows the pain inside and the aches that you feel.

A PHD is to write a lot of none-sense on a piece of headed paper and a signature, stamp that has PHD. By God am going to try and get a PHD too. PHD knows ###### about your life and then that is who immigration officer are going to believe. To show you how mentally twisted these people are, and then they talk about morals. Most of us would never even see a shrink had we not been in a messed up marriage. In reality what does the shrink do? But because you need to become legal it is a protocol that a shrink is involved. Wow. These people try to control us by telling us to pay for a shrink to extort money from us to prove that we have been sexually, financially, emotionally, and skull cracked abused. I am so angry right now. The next legislation that should pass is get a shrink to live with you and take the physical, sexually,mental abuse etc and then they will get a better understanding and write fantastic reports. Because some educated people still don't think that mental abuse is classed as abuse.

Some of these shrinks has no idea how to write a report or even there name. Have you ever heard of google? but they are happy to take your money and write and lot of ###### that does not even help your case. They didn't have to live with you nor your abuser nor do they have to leave and go to a shelter with their young kid and be further subject to more degradation by mainly born and bread Americans who thinks you are trying to get into their country and take their jobs and money. I have come to realise that people here are intimidated by you if you are educated take no bullshit and have a advance level of common sense. I have been told by catholic charities NYC, empire justice center NYC, city bar justice center NYC and even my paid psychologist that if my skull is not cracked and I am not escorted out on a gurney or in a body bag then I should just pack up my stuff and go home because the American dream that I am chasing is not worth it. The psychologist has to cheek to tell me that there are plenty of struggling american lawyers here who cannot get work so why do I think I am special enough to get jobs over american citizens. Wow unbelievable unintelligence at its best.

I am really depress and my body is really weak this entire nonsense is taking a toll on my mental state of mind. Am I the only one who find myself in this situation or is everyone else gets put to the test. I am struggling frustrated and my tear ducts are completely dried up. I am stretch to the limit and for the first time in my life I have no fight left in me. My funds are completely depleted. I was only allowed to stay in the shelter 90 days I lasted a month. Everyone keeps asking the same dumb question do you have any family or friends that can help you out. Give you money or let you have free rent. If there were would I be going to organisations reaching out for assistance? NO

A lot of people have different opinions on your situation and what you should do. I have exhausted most of the avenues that I can think of. The best part of it is I have ovarian cyst that the hospital said I have to wait until it get bigger before they take it out. I look like I am six months pregnant with this thing. Oh I forgot to mention instead of paying for my wisdom tooth to be extracted I paid the ####### psychologist who then turns round and say that my money is not enough and that I have to wait until the first week of September to get the evaluation. She said if I needed an expedite report I would have to pay $800 more because she has bigger projects working on that pays way more than what I am paying her. I now get a clearer understanding of why when people go off and do some really twisted ###### I wonder why. This is why and this is what makes me mad. They bullshit you about needing this report when in fact they are the ones driving you mad with the sarcastic and patronising comments. They want to put me on anti-depressant tablets and send me to see a psychiatrist now. Can you believe this. This is so taboo where I am from but if that is what it takes then you have to play along with the none-sense to get sense. Oh and I forgot to say the court has place a temporary protective order in place from my husband and they can't find him to serve the order because he knows the system that well he beats them to it. He no longer works where he use to. i have been going to court since June 2014 only to get the case adjourned because they cannot find my husband. I have another court date 8/25/14 and instead of the judge putting something in place he keeps adjourning it wasting my time. My husband keeps sending me letters, threatening emails etc all because he has a stay away order not a non-communication order so he his till legally able to harass the ###### out out me. OMG no justice no peace. I feel as he his winning and they are all on his side.

I am so tired and over frustrated right no it not funny anymore I feel like this is another form of abuse. Am I being mellow dramatic or am I really going mad here?

All I know from my experience I was seeing a psychiatrist for 6 months and he had written a 1 page evaluation off my symptoms. I was paying $125 per sitting and he was providing my medications as well you know the sample that they receive.. I stay in CA

[mamaof3! 9]

To anyone reading this, be very careful to whom you ask for help with your case. Some so called domestic violence services will just laugh at your face and waste your time. And if you're from abroad, it is perceived as a benefit and then, for them, you gotta be lying.

Hey KleberP,

can you please post your timeline? Also did you apply for vawa with aos or just vawa first? thanks

[Faithkeeper 25]

Hi guys,

I'm still so excited as i just got back from my interview and it went great! Straight to the point and the IO was professional and knew what she was doing ! I got my approval on the spot! Thank you Jesus! My journey was long and tumultuous but it ended better than I expected..

I went without my attorney! I didn't believe I needed one especially after my Vawa approval! I was asked the yes/no questions and she marked as I answered! She swore me in under oath! And then asked if I was still with my previous employer, I said No and told her my current job and she asked my position there and I told her too then she wrote it on my file also! Asked if I finally got my EAD and I said yes! Asked me what happened to my previous GC application and I told him it was probably denied due to failure to show up as my "wonderful" ex hid the interview notice from me and I never got it !! Before I even explained it all she said "who knows maybe he probably hid the letter from you" and shook her head.. I said yes and smiled a bit so that relieved a few of the tension I had!! And asked if I was still married to him I said yes, haven't filed for divorce yet! She also verified my names, address and contact details, how long I've lived there etc! Verified my parents names and my ex's name too!

Asked if I have travelled out of the US since my arrival, I answered ! And she says my fingerprints hasn't arrived yet from from Vermont or hqtrs (I don't remember ) but says she already just sent them a notice to send it to them and my card is ordered! She was nice and professional and that's all I needed! I'm sharing this so whoever is still waiting.. NEVER give up hope! God is still God.. SandraNj! I know you have heard this a million times but it still won't stop me from saying thank you and May God bless you for your advises... Pls don't stop doing what you are doing!

Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences here when I started as it also helped me. .

I'm still here Incase there is any question anyone might want me to answer! If I take a while to reply I'm at work but don't worry I will send a reply as soon as I get off or on break ! God bless and best of luck to everyone still waiting ! Peace

Best girl ever

PRAISE be to God Almighty congratulations on the end of this journey an the beginning of a bright new one!!!!

[melanieuk 19]

Cindy29

"I am so frustrated because I didn't realise how incompetent, and uneducated these people of authority are."

- Amen to that! It is true that a lot of people are really superficial in their knowledge, but the is how the world works, and if you want to do something right, do it yourself. As for evaluation, the bottom line is that you either decide that you need it or you do not need it, right now there is no time for you to bargain - you have to get yourself together and decide what you will do, either go to a different psychologist or pay more to this one (and people here pay different prices I am sure, it is like lawer's fee - it varies,there are standards, but it still varies - the bottom line, you cannot win the lottery and have everything cheap and good).

"Moral and America in the same sentence unbelievable."

This really confuses me. I hate USCIS for being slow and so unorganized, but you would see my feet flashing trying to run away from the country that has no morals...What keeps you here? That was rhetorical, you don't have to answer

All in all, I think you need to find a free therapy groups for domestic violence survivors, it helps me, I can see you need it too!

KleberP

I think it is:

1) very reckless to advise somebody against evaluation because you cannot guarantee he or she will get approved without it...

2) extremely rude to publish private messages without other's person consent. Plus you are talking about Sandra (Oh no...you didn't!!!!!!)...she is practically a cement of this thread! A lot of people ere are willing to stand up because she is no bullsh*t!

Iop, I don't know what part of Cindy29's experience you find acceptable. If a psychologist takes away all your money and doesn't help you in any way, THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. And you're telling her to get a new one, she has no money. I don't know if this is because where I come from, but this is definitely not "how the world works" or should work in any society.

[mamaof3! 9]

I am having a rant. I am getting ready to file my vawa case in the middle of September hopefully. I am being put through the pace here. I was seeing a social worker who gave me a hard time instead of helping. All everyone keeps saying why don't you go back to your country. I am so frustrated because I didn't realise how incompetent, and uneducated these people of authority are. This woman wasted my time and money for over 2 months and then told me that it is up to her whether she wants to write an evaluation or not. She said I have to be attending therapy session for a year or more before she consider writing an evaluation and that people who do evaluation after seeing someone for a short amount of time is breaking the moral code of ethic. Moral and America in the same sentence unbelievable. What a joke. An abused immigrant with no job and very little money to travel to manhattan every single week and pay for therapy plus LIRR fare. Omg. I am livid. Now this ####### new psychologist is trying to extort even further cash that I already don't have to write an evaluation. I am appalled to know that an evaluation is costing $2800 to write. Instead of here trying to find write the evaluation because I didn't show up at the office with stink breathe and smelly and looking pretty rough she has a totally different outlook and what my life use to be. YEs I had a comfortable life before. This is the aftermath which I am trying to make the best of a bad situation. No one knows the pain inside and the aches that you feel.

A PHD is to write a lot of none-sense on a piece of headed paper and a signature, stamp that has PHD. By God am going to try and get a PHD too. PHD knows ###### about your life and then that is who immigration officer are going to believe. To show you how mentally twisted these people are, and then they talk about morals. Most of us would never even see a shrink had we not been in a messed up marriage. In reality what does the shrink do? But because you need to become legal it is a protocol that a shrink is involved. Wow. These people try to control us by telling us to pay for a shrink to extort money from us to prove that we have been sexually, financially, emotionally, and skull cracked abused. I am so angry right now. The next legislation that should pass is get a shrink to live with you and take the physical, sexually,mental abuse etc and then they will get a better understanding and write fantastic reports. Because some educated people still don't think that mental abuse is classed as abuse.

Some of these shrinks has no idea how to write a report or even there name. Have you ever heard of google? but they are happy to take your money and write and lot of ###### that does not even help your case. They didn't have to live with you nor your abuser nor do they have to leave and go to a shelter with their young kid and be further subject to more degradation by mainly born and bread Americans who thinks you are trying to get into their country and take their jobs and money. I have come to realise that people here are intimidated by you if you are educated take no bullshit and have a advance level of common sense. I have been told by catholic charities NYC, empire justice center NYC, city bar justice center NYC and even my paid psychologist that if my skull is not cracked and I am not escorted out on a gurney or in a body bag then I should just pack up my stuff and go home because the American dream that I am chasing is not worth it. The psychologist has to cheek to tell me that there are plenty of struggling american lawyers here who cannot get work so why do I think I am special enough to get jobs over american citizens. Wow unbelievable unintelligence at its best.

I am really depress and my body is really weak this entire nonsense is taking a toll on my mental state of mind. Am I the only one who find myself in this situation or is everyone else gets put to the test. I am struggling frustrated and my tear ducts are completely dried up. I am stretch to the limit and for the first time in my life I have no fight left in me. My funds are completely depleted. I was only allowed to stay in the shelter 90 days I lasted a month. Everyone keeps asking the same dumb question do you have any family or friends that can help you out. Give you money or let you have free rent. If there were would I be going to organisations reaching out for assistance? NO

A lot of people have different opinions on your situation and what you should do. I have exhausted most of the avenues that I can think of. The best part of it is I have ovarian cyst that the hospital said I have to wait until it get bigger before they take it out. I look like I am six months pregnant with this thing. Oh I forgot to mention instead of paying for my wisdom tooth to be extracted I paid the ####### psychologist who then turns round and say that my money is not enough and that I have to wait until the first week of September to get the evaluation. She said if I needed an expedite report I would have to pay $800 more because she has bigger projects working on that pays way more than what I am paying her. I now get a clearer understanding of why when people go off and do some really twisted ###### I wonder why. This is why and this is what makes me mad. They bullshit you about needing this report when in fact they are the ones driving you mad with the sarcastic and patronising comments. They want to put me on anti-depressant tablets and send me to see a psychiatrist now. Can you believe this. This is so taboo where I am from but if that is what it takes then you have to play along with the none-sense to get sense. Oh and I forgot to say the court has place a temporary protective order in place from my husband and they can't find him to serve the order because he knows the system that well he beats them to it. He no longer works where he use to. i have been going to court since June 2014 only to get the case adjourned because they cannot find my husband. I have another court date 8/25/14 and instead of the judge putting something in place he keeps adjourning it wasting my time. My husband keeps sending me letters, threatening emails etc all because he has a stay away order not a non-communication order so he his till legally able to harass the ###### out out me. OMG no justice no peace. I feel as he his winning and they are all on his side.

I am so tired and over frustrated right no it not funny anymore I feel like this is another form of abuse. Am I being mellow dramatic or am I really going mad here?

Cindy29,

If you are in the position to write max 12 pages for your personal statement, detailing all the madness btw you and your hubby, this will be the first step. Then you fill out the forms needed and file by yourself. There is so much information on this site, check vawa part 4 and part 5. It is a lot of info to comb through, but you can definately do this within a month. To be honest, the phy Dr's in this country charge a arm and a leg.. I really do not understand why they suppose people in our situation, well mine ( I do not have work permit to work), have all this extra money to pay some Dr's student loan. The catholic charities here do not have a Dr on hand too or it would have been cost effective. As you do not have any cash to spare, pls start writing your statement, print the forms out and send express delivery to vawa unit,Vermont. We are all in the same boat girl, I sure do miss home!!

Edited August 24, 2014 by mamaof3!

[Iop 2]

melanieUK

I did not say it was acceptable, don't put words in my mouth I did not say! I just said that world is not fair, if it was all of us would not be here! I agree that it is unacceptable, BUT instead of putting her energy into anger, she has to get herself together and figure what to do about this situation, the last thing I want anybody to do and to get discouraged and quit if it means a lot to them. Crying out loud about how unfair the world is will relief you emotionally, but it will not help the situation.

Cindy

BE strong girl! Don't get discouraged, world is unfair, but there are tons of great people to help, solve your problems the best way and in the best pace you can - if you do, eventually everything will fall into place. There is a lot of information in here you will find useful! Personal Statement is extremely important! Maybe focus on that for now?