Obama to raise minimum wage for federal contractors

[deleted-05292014 331]

I had a feeling you would come back with "Do your own research man"

LOL

Look the fact is, this country is great because it unleashed people to be free to pursue their own interests. Free from a domineering Gov't and free to profit from the labor of their hands.

These ideas took a newborn country and propelled it into greatness.

These ideas did not just happen in a vacuum , they were the evolution of the man-Gov't relationship which had been evolving for centuries in Europe.

So we see a certain "citizen-govt'" evolve one which required a certain kind of people to take root and grow.

even by 1960 the USA was about 90% Euro-American, does it make any sense to claim "diversity made us great" when we were great long before we started down the path of Diversity?

This country was more white than many Muslin countries are Muslim or Asian countries are asian.

Truth is, what little diversity we had caused enough problems...... when you consider nearly every riot in this country could be chalked up to diversity.

Prior to 1965 our greatest source of diversity was religion, almost all Christian but wildly diverse in practice.... and even that cause some clique-ishness and division.

Great Ideas and the people who made them happen are what made this country great... not those who swung a 9 lb hammer on the railroad

or shoveled coal or picked cotton. Without the guys with IDEAS.... there would be no coal mines railroads or sugarcane to chop.

Not everyone who came to this country were free. In fact many Irish who came to this country were treated worse than Black slaves, many were considered expendable and arrived as indentured servants who were sent to the mines. In fact the term "Black" Irish is came about because of the amount of time those men spent in the mines. So when you say free to profit from their hands you completely disregard them and for that matter Black people who did not profit but were treated as property for hundreds of years. Excuse me if I call BS to your claim.

Diversity began here long before the 1960s. The point is, this country was built and became great because of the contributions of not 1 group but multiple groups of people. That is diversity. That is multiculturalism. Why can't you understand that? The world does not fit into your racist tightly controlled mold that requires very limited understanding of how the world works.

This country was not more White you are so so misinformed. Black people outnumbered Whites in the South pre-civil war. Before the Westward expansion when many Blacks moved out of the South post reconstruction.

I would argue that every riot in this country can be chalked up to those who favored not treating their fellow Americans as human beings. You know like allowing all people equal access to goods and services, equality under the law, equal housing and education, murdering peaceful men such as Dr. King, fire bombing churches and killing 3 innocent girls, lynching children, castrating men and stuffing their genitals in their mouths. I mean please tell me the greatness of Euro-American civilization I want to hear it. Teach me please I'm all ears.

Great ideas and the people who made them happen are what made this country great, you are correct.....however it was not all White people. I know how much you don't like to hear that. I know how much it throws a wrench into your limited world view but the fabric of this country is a multitude of colors and ethnic groups all coming together under a common goal.

Like I said I'm not here to give you a history lesson, or really to teach you the meaning of civilization. You'll have to do that work on your own.

Oh btw, did you say you were a marine? What do you say to those non-White military personal that came before you and fought and died to help make this country great in every single major war since the American revolution? Many of whom who sacrificed for rights and freedoms that they themselves did not enjoy? Are the Black vets who came back from Germany fighting nazis and then lynched in the South for no other reason because of the color of their skin, do they count?

[JohnR! 5,495]

Not everyone who came to this country were free. In fact many Irish who came to this country were treated worse than Black slaves, many were considered expendable and arrived as indentured servants who were sent to the mines. In fact the term "Black" Irish is came about because of the amount of time those men spent in the mines. So when you say free to profit from their hands you completely disregard them and for that matter Black people who did not profit but were treated as property for hundreds of years. Excuse me if I call BS to your claim.

Diversity began here long before the 1960s. The point is, this country was built and became great because of the contributions of not 1 group but multiple groups of people. That is diversity. That is multiculturalism. Why can't you understand that? The world does not fit into your racist tightly controlled mold that requires very limited understanding of how the world works.

This country was not more White you are so so misinformed. Black people outnumbered Whites in the South pre-civil war. Before the Westward expansion when many Blacks moved out of the South post reconstruction.

I would argue that every riot in this country can be chalked up to those who favored not treating their fellow Americans as human beings. You know like allowing all people equal access to goods and services, equality under the law, equal housing and education, murdering peaceful men such as Dr. King, fire bombing churches and killing 3 innocent girls, lynching children, castrating men and stuffing their genitals in their mouths. I mean please tell me the greatness of Euro-American civilization I want to hear it. Teach me please I'm all ears.

Great ideas and the people who made them happen are what made this country great, you are correct.....however it was not all White people. I know how much you don't like to hear that. I know how much it throws a wrench into your limited world view but the fabric of this country is a multitude of colors and ethnic groups all coming together under a common goal.

Like I said I'm not here to give you a history lesson, or really to teach you the meaning of civilization. You'll have to do that work on your own.

Oh btw, did you say you were a marine? What do you say to those non-White military personal that came before you and fought and died to help make this country great in every single major war since the American revolution? Many of whom who sacrificed for rights and freedoms that they themselves did not enjoy? Are the Black vets who came back from Germany fighting nazis and then lynched in the South for no other reason because of the color of their skin, do they count?

You completely nailed it. It is a pity is will be lost on some of the audience.

[deleted-05292014 331]

Seriously have you ever seen real overt Racism. The kind that was prevalent in this Nation in the 60's and 70's. Do you recall separate fountains, bathrooms, and waiting rooms, work camps in which blacks could land for most any reason, some powerful local white thought up. Do you recall blacks using the back door or attending separate schools. Do you recall thinking most black men's first name was boy?

Those are examples of segregation as it was protected under the law. Post-segregation the legacy of institutionalized racism still exists to this day. I'm 41 and I can say that I have fought, and I do mean physical altercations, my entire life even after college. I'm not quick to go to fist to cuffs anymore but I've been called N so many times I can't even quantify it, it was a red button to throw down for me. College was the worse. Had people defecate and smear it on my door, someone spray painted a swastika on the sidewalk in front of our dorm freshman year, harassed by campus police just walking on campus at night. I'm not Catholic but I went to a Catholic university, funny thing about the swastika is that perhaps the idiot didn't know they hate Catholics too. Seriously every Black person in America has a story, I only bring this up to say that to point out it is obvious you have no Black friends or even know what goes on - and that is fine you don't have to have any interactions with Black people that does not bother me at all. But when you form opinions out of ignorance that makes you look like a

[Danno 1,228]

Not everyone who came to this country were free. In fact many Irish who came to this country were treated worse than Black slaves, many were considered expendable and arrived as indentured servants who were sent to the mines. In fact the term "Black" Irish is came about because of the amount of time those men spent in the mines. So when you say free to profit from their hands you completely disregard them and for that matter Black people who did not profit but were treated as property for hundreds of years. Excuse me if I call BS to your claim.

Diversity began here long before the 1960s. The point is, this country was built and became great because of the contributions of not 1 group but multiple groups of people. That is diversity. That is multiculturalism. Why can't you understand that? The world does not fit into your racist tightly controlled mold that requires very limited understanding of how the world works.

This country was not more White you are so so misinformed. Black people outnumbered Whites in the South pre-civil war. Before the Westward expansion when many Blacks moved out of the South post reconstruction.

I would argue that every riot in this country can be chalked up to those who favored not treating their fellow Americans as human beings. You know like allowing all people equal access to goods and services, equality under the law, equal housing and education, murdering peaceful men such as Dr. King, fire bombing churches and killing 3 innocent girls, lynching children, castrating men and stuffing their genitals in their mouths. I mean please tell me the greatness of Euro-American civilization I want to hear it. Teach me please I'm all ears.

Great ideas and the people who made them happen are what made this country great, you are correct.....however it was not all White people. I know how much you don't like to hear that. I know how much it throws a wrench into your limited world view but the fabric of this country is a multitude of colors and ethnic groups all coming together under a common goal.

Like I said I'm not here to give you a history lesson, or really to teach you the meaning of civilization. You'll have to do that work on your own.

Oh btw, did you say you were a marine? What do you say to those non-White military personal that came before you and fought and died to help make this country great in every single major war since the American revolution? Many of whom who sacrificed for rights and freedoms that they themselves did not enjoy? Are the Black vets who came back from Germany fighting nazis and then lynched in the South for no other reason because of the color of their skin, do they count?

Jinx your malfunction starts with thinking someone can't understand and appreciate personal contributions along the way, I have a firm grasp on that but the blue prints dictate the design of the building and our Blue prints came from the English.

Try to imagine if you will, what this country would look like today if instead of England as our mother an African nation stumbled onto these shores and built a nation.

Suppose it were Chinese or folks from India who laid the foundations of Law religion, customs human rights.

No one with a straight face can say this country would be anything like it is today. Not to disparage what they might have created but we know when you look around the world, where the British people went and stayed ... all these places are similar- The UK, USA-Canada-Austrialia,New Zealand,etc. Places they withdrew from... not so much.

It would be like me designing a bridge and the workers whom I hired (or forced to work) later try to claim the bridge is the fruit of their hands.

Well in a sense it is, but in actuality, every worker could be replaced and the bridge would look the same yet if you change the designer it changes everything.

So yes we salute the laborers for their diligent work but lets not confuse why the bridge is there and why it looks as it does (Historically speaking).

You think it is about racism but this truism applies to every nation.

One thing you are going to figure out, terms like racism, bigotry and all that are not going to squelch the facts or help you make your point, that tactic works to silence a lot of people, I am not one.

Edited January 29, 2014 by Danno

[deleted-05292014 331]

Jinx your malfunction starts with thinking someone can't understand and appreciate personal contributions along the way, I have a firm grasp on that but the blue prints dictate the design of the building and our Blue prints came from the English.

Try to imagine if you will, what this country would look like today if instead of England as our mother an African nation stumbled onto these shores and built a nation.

Suppose it were Chinese or folks from India who laid the foundations of Law religion, customs human rights.

No one with a straight face can say this country would be anything like it is today. Not to disparage what they might have created but we know when you look around the world, where the British people went and stayed ... all these places are similar- The UK, USA-Canada-Austrialia,New Zealand,etc. Places they withdrew from... not so much.

It would be like me designing a bridge and the workers whom I hired (or forced to work) later try to claim the bridge is the fruit of their hands.

Well in a sense it is, but in actuality, every worker could be replaced and the bridge would look the same yet if you change the designer it changes everything.

So yes we salute the laborers for their diligent work but lets not confuse why the bridge is there and why it looks as it does (Historically speaking).

You think it is about racism but this truism applies to every nation.

One thing you are going to figure out, terms like racism, bigotry and all that are not going to squelch the facts or help you make your point, that tactic works to silence a lot of people, I am not one.

First of all, I hate to tell you but all of those civilizations had much more advanced histories that pre-date Europe. I mean if you want to know the truth, when many ancient Europeans thought the wind made babies and was wearing animal furs and drawing stick figures on cave walls, there were powerful African, Chinese and Indian civilizations far more advanced. They wore silk, traveled across seas, had universities, traded across distance lands, road elephants across mountain ranges, written languages and laws, built complex structures that aligned with celestial bodies mathematically precise. Just throwing that out there if you want to do some research since you seem to think that western Civ started civilization itself. I'm not discounting Euro advancements or contributions to the world but you don't get the luxury to re-write history. Like I said before, you have a limited and sophomoric understanding of the world.

While parts of our legal system is grounded in English common law, we fought a war of independence and became a sovereign nation from England - we evolved away from their culture. Of course some of our laws and core beliefs have roots in Locke and other philosophers. I guess the difference between me and you is that you take that and twist your racist ideological views into it and use it to say what? That Whites or Europeans are therefore superior to all others? English law evolved from laws like a domino effect throughout history. Ancient Egyptians developed the rule of law and a basis for legal systems in 3000 BC. Later expanded on by Sumerians and Babylonians who first put laws on stone tablets....fast forward another few thousand years and you have the Greeks that are credited with the earliest forms of democracy but all coming from an origin. I say all of this to point out that like matter is neither created or destroyed, neither in many respects is knowledge. That your bridge metaphor is nothing new, the people who you "think" created it used that idea from someone else. They didn't make the blueprint, they took it from someone else. So while I certainly applaud those intellects and great thinkers, they can also be called great plagiarists and imitators of African, Chinese, and Indian originals But I will give you the American institute of Slavery - THAT chit is all yours, every single bit of it take credit for it. It's never been done in the history of the world.

I guess your major malfunction would be not answering my questions or proposing some hypothetical "race bait" scenario like you did above. I'm not trying to silence anyone. I want you to keep talking, I like to bask in your aura of ignorance and marvel at how bad the American education system has let you down.

Edited January 29, 2014 by Jinx614

[one...two...tree 2,762]

[url=http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/01/28/obama-to-raise-minimum-wage-for-federal-contractors/?hpt=hp_t1]http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/01/28/obama-to-raise-minimum-wage-for-federal-contractors/?hpt=hp_t1[/url

(CNN) - While President Barack Obamas attempts to increase the nations minimum wage through legislation have stalled in Congress, the White House announced plans on Tuesday to use the presidents executive powers to partially address the problem.

Just hours before the President is scheduled to deliver his fifth State of the Union address, the White House revealed that Obama will issue an executive order to increase the minimum wage for new federal contract workers.

On whose authority? Is this even legal?

[Janelle2002 3,865]

First of all, I hate to tell you but all of those civilizations had much more advanced histories that pre-date Europe. I mean if you want to know the truth, when many ancient Europeans thought the wind made babies and was wearing animal furs and drawing stick figures on cave walls, there were powerful African, Chinese and Indian civilizations far more advanced. They wore silk, traveled across seas, had universities, traded across distance lands, road elephants across mountain ranges, written languages and laws, built complex structures that aligned with celestial bodies mathematically precise. Just throwing that out there if you want to do some research since you seem to think that western Civ started civilization itself. I'm not discounting Euro advancements or contributions to the world but you don't get the luxury to re-write history. Like I said before, you have a limited and sophomoric understanding of the world.

While parts of our legal system is grounded in English common law, we fought a war of independence and became a sovereign nation from England - we evolved away from their culture. Of course some of our laws and core beliefs have roots in Locke and other philosophers. I guess the difference between me and you is that you take that and twist your racist ideological views into it and use it to say what? That Whites or Europeans are therefore superior to all others? English law evolved from laws like a domino effect throughout history. Ancient Egyptians developed the rule of law and a basis for legal systems in 3000 BC. Later expanded on by Sumerians and Babylonians who first put laws on stone tablets....fast forward another few thousand years and you have the Greeks that are credited with the earliest forms of democracy but all coming from an origin. I say all of this to point out that like matter is neither created or destroyed, neither in many respects is knowledge. That your bridge metaphor is nothing new, the people who you "think" created it used that idea from someone else. They didn't make the blueprint, they took it from someone else. So while I certainly applaud those intellects and great thinkers, they can also be called great plagiarists and imitators of African, Chinese, and Indian originals But I will give you the American institute of Slavery - THAT chit is all yours, every single bit of it take credit for it. It's never been done in the history of the world.

I guess your major malfunction would be not answering my questions or proposing some hypothetical "race bait" scenario like you did above. I'm not trying to silence anyone. I want you to keep talking, I like to bask in your aura of ignorance and marvel at how bad the American education system has let you down.

Well said!

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

On whose authority? Is this even legal?

His very own. He's the kind of guy who would try to use his power to enable a third term for the office of President.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

His very own. He's the kind of guy who would try to use his power to enable a third term for the office of President.

Let's hope the GOP can get find a candidate that's actually decent enough so we won't have to vote for the Kenyan again.

[GandD 5,966]

His very own. He's the kind of guy who would try to use his power to enable a third term for the office of President.

I got $5 on that. That he won't that is.

[Danno 1,228]

First of all, I hate to tell you but all of those civilizations had much more advanced histories that pre-date Europe. I mean if you want to know the truth, when many ancient Europeans thought the wind made babies and was wearing animal furs and drawing stick figures on cave walls, there were powerful African, Chinese and Indian civilizations far more advanced. They wore silk, traveled across seas, had universities, traded across distance lands, road elephants across mountain ranges, written languages and laws, built complex structures that aligned with celestial bodies mathematically precise. Just throwing that out there if you want to do some research since you seem to think that western Civ started civilization itself. I'm not discounting Euro advancements or contributions to the world but you don't get the luxury to re-write history. Like I said before, you have a limited and sophomoric understanding of the world.

While parts of our legal system is grounded in English common law, we fought a war of independence and became a sovereign nation from England - we evolved away from their culture. Of course some of our laws and core beliefs have roots in Locke and other philosophers. I guess the difference between me and you is that you take that and twist your racist ideological views into it and use it to say what? That Whites or Europeans are therefore superior to all others? English law evolved from laws like a domino effect throughout history. Ancient Egyptians developed the rule of law and a basis for legal systems in 3000 BC. Later expanded on by Sumerians and Babylonians who first put laws on stone tablets....fast forward another few thousand years and you have the Greeks that are credited with the earliest forms of democracy but all coming from an origin. I say all of this to point out that like matter is neither created or destroyed, neither in many respects is knowledge. That your bridge metaphor is nothing new, the people who you "think" created it used that idea from someone else. They didn't make the blueprint, they took it from someone else. So while I certainly applaud those intellects and great thinkers, they can also be called great plagiarists and imitators of African, Chinese, and Indian originals But I will give you the American institute of Slavery - THAT chit is all yours, every single bit of it take credit for it. It's never been done in the history of the world.

I guess your major malfunction would be not answering my questions or proposing some hypothetical "race bait" scenario like you did above. I'm not trying to silence anyone. I want you to keep talking, I like to bask in your aura of ignorance and marvel at how bad the American education system has let you down.

Come on Jinx, dodging is not a proper response.

While I appreciate your Youtube version of world history, that wasn't the topic at hand.

Rather we started off with you proving that the USA is made "great" by diversity.

Still I wait for a cogent reason as to why this country was so substandard up until 1965 and how we are now great since we have become a Diverse nation.

My position has been that in most areas, the diversity you speak of is meaningless, when it does come effect things, it is more often a obstacle of language, holidays, wardrobe customs....heck, even what food or music we should have at the company party.

Now please don't misunderstand me, I have never claimed that people who are productive in this country are not valued, or that (historically speaking) Blacks and others have not earned their place here, but to pretend that some great Multicultural effort built this country is just revisionism in the highest degree. (and don't we have too much of that going on already)

In our lifetimes this country was about 90% white. (It's low 70's still)

Every immigration policy was designed to for Europeans starting with the very first one.

Naturalization Act of 1790

The original United States Naturalization Law of March 26, 1790 (1 Stat. 103) provided the first rules to be followed by the United States in the granting of national citizenship. This law limited naturalization to immigrants who were "free white persons" of "good character". It thus excluded American Indians, indentured servants, slaves, free blacks, and Asians. It also provided for citizenship for the children of U.S. citizens born abroad, but specified that the right of citizenship did "not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States". It specifies that such children "shall be considered as natural born citizens" -- the only U.S. statute to ever use the term "natural born citizen".^[1][2]

IT would be more accurate to say we were formed as a "pan-european" country. But even that undermines the British foundation.

^{It wasn't until 1965 that this country embarked on a Multi cultural direction.}

^{NOw it could be that our best days are ahead.... that a century from now, people can rightfully say "Diversity made us great"... but you have yet to explain what specifically you mean by that.}

^{How are we great that we could not have been if we were all White or Asian or all Black?}

Edited January 29, 2014 by Danno

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

His very own. He's the kind of guy who would try to use his power to enable a third term for the office of President.

Someone always says that about every president. It's not happened. Not to say it couldn't, but most of these sorts of scaremongering statements come from people who have done so many drugs they have fried their brains and are incurably paranoid.

Edited January 29, 2014 by Papa Lazarou

[Karee 4,190]

Let's hope the GOP can get find a candidate that's actually decent enough so we won't have to vote for the Kenyan again.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/01/28/obama-to-raise-minimum-wage-for-federal-contractors/?hpt=hp_t1

(CNN) - While President Barack Obama’s attempts to increase the nation’s minimum wage through legislation have stalled in Congress, the White House announced plans on Tuesday to use the president’s executive powers to partially address the problem.

Just hours before the President is scheduled to deliver his fifth State of the Union address, the White House revealed that Obama will issue an executive order to increase the minimum wage for new federal contract workers.

I wonder why he didn't do an effin' thing until now? He could have done this on his first inaugeration day. Couldn't find his pen? Why do you suppose he let people lose millions of dollars? What a jerk!

[Peikko 1,575]

I wonder why he didn't do an effin' thing until now? He could have done this on his first inaugeration day. Couldn't find his pen? Why do you suppose he let people lose millions of dollars? What a jerk!

Your imagination is failing you if you have to 'wonder' that. He may be a jerk, but he's your very own presidential jerk and you would do well not to forget that. Putin is not your president