Obama to raise minimum wage for federal contractors

[Danno 1,228]

We've actually posted data that shows even when a black person is more qualified and has no criminal record, a white felon has an equal if not better chance to get hired:

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/09/study-black-man-and-white-felon-same-chances-for-hire/

The results of these studies were startling. Among those with no criminal record, white applicants were more than twice as likely to receive a callback relative to equally qualified black applicants. Even more troubling, whites with a felony conviction fared just as well, if not better, than a black applicant with a clean background.

Racial disparities have been documented in many contexts, but here, comparing the two job applicants side by side, we are confronted with a troubling reality: Being black in America today is just about the same as having a felony conviction in terms of one’s chances of finding a job.

The young black men posing as job applicants in this study were bright college kids, models of discipline and hard work; and yet, even in this best case scenario, these applicants were routinely overlooked simply on the basis of the color of their skin. The results of this study suggest that black men must work at least twice as hard as equally qualified whites simply to overcome the stigma of their skin color.

Thats an interesting study though it is very light on facts and numbers and the sort of detail one might like to know about the research. I suppose we could dig it up as this was part of her doctrinal work.

There is no doubt in my mind that when it comes to small businesses, it is more difficult for a Black to land a job. There are a number of reasons for that, the two biggest being plain ole bias and the other is "life experience" often people have a bad experience concerning Blacks (or whoever) and they apply that in decisions they make.

Another factor is people most often gravitate towards people they can relate to. An Old white guy might warm up to a white kid who looks more like his grandson that a Black guy with dreds?

We see the same thing when you go to an black owned business, the vast majority of workers are Black as well. IN fact this is common among most small businesses owned by a Asian or hispanics.

The white guy with the police record (in the research)... I wish they had told us what the crime was that so many employers over looked it?

Marv it would appear, the author of that study is fixated on the subject of Blacks and their issues, does that not bother you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devah_Pager

[Danno 1,228]

Googled it...... couldn't find it. Must not matter.

* The websites I name in this tread are not actual websites (that I know of) yet they represent the innumerable that are out there, just like them.

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

I don't know and what does that have to do with forming a BlackMac Lovers group in 2014?

Who the HEck said anything about blackmac? I was pointing out that black frats probably didn't exist in the era you allude to because there weren't enough people to populate one.

Edited January 28, 2014 by DavenRoxy

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

Googled it...... couldn't find it. Must not matter.

* The websites I name in this tread are not actual websites (that I know of) yet they represent the innumerable that are out there, just like them.

So you are using (as a reference) something that does not exist. Got it. Now let me take my car to the shop to have the... UNICORN!!!!

[deleted-05292014 331]

-Most Black fraternities are new, not old carry-overs.

-Most people in these fraternities are not old enough to have experienced the need for a race based organization.

Granted the site you mentioned may be open to all.... but there are plenty of sites and orgs "Directed at" certain races, (which I have no problem with)

However I am not so sure you would welcome the same exclusive groups, sites,for all races.

Alpha Phi Alpha founded...1906

Delta Sigma Theta....1917

Alpha Kappa Alpha.....1908

Kappa Alpha Psi......1911

Danno it's painfully obvious to most of us that the only thing you know about anything Black is when you close your eyes and drift off into David Duke land.... Now I don't go to yer neck of the woods and tell you how to hunt squirrels and fish catfish with your thumbs. Why are you raising your nubs and typing a bunch of nonsense. I've heard of low information voters, you're like a low information forum troll.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African-American_Greek_and_fraternal_organizations

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Thats an interesting study though it is very light on facts and numbers and the sort of detail one might like to know about the research. I suppose we could dig it up as this was part of her doctrinal work.

There is no doubt in my mind that when it comes to small businesses, it is more difficult for a Black to land a job. There are a number of reasons for that, the two biggest being plain ole bias and the other is "life experience" often people have a bad experience concerning Blacks (or whoever) and they apply that in decisions they make.

Another factor is people most often gravitate towards people they can relate to. An Old white guy might warm up to a white kid who looks more like his grandson that a Black guy with dreds?

We see the same thing when you go to an black owned business, the vast majority of workers are Black as well. IN fact this is common among most small businesses owned by a Asian or hispanics.

The white guy with the police record (in the research)... I wish they had told us what the crime was that so many employers over looked it?

Marv it would appear, the author of that study is fixated on the subject of Blacks and their issues, does that not bother you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devah_Pager

And the fact that those experiences shape their hiring practices are wrong. I've heard it so many times, a black person robbed me so all are criminals, a black guy did me wrong, so I can't date anymore black guys. If the person was white, would the effect still be the same?

It's about qualifications. If that black guy with dreds is qualified, he should get the job over a white kid who isn't but looks like the owner.

That white guy conducted research concerning black people. He went and talked to them, interacted with them, got his information from them and wrote his thesis. You on the other hand, refuse to interact with any black person. You constantly bring up issues that highlight problems in the black community, yet you won't have this conversation with any black person IRL.

[Danno 1,228]

Alpha Phi Alpha founded...1906

Delta Sigma Theta....1917

Alpha Kappa Alpha.....1908

Kappa Alpha Psi......1911

Danno it's painfully obvious to most of us that the only thing you know about anything Black is when you close your eyes and drift off into David Duke land.... Now I don't go to yer neck of the woods and tell you how to hunt squirrels and fish catfish with your thumbs. Why are you raising your nubs and typing a bunch of nonsense. I've heard of low information voters, you're like a low information forum troll.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African-American_Greek_and_fraternal_organizations

No, actually what is painfully obvious is your reading comprehension...... but never mind, thats what I am here for.... to make the cloudy clear.

You confused "fraternal' to a limited scope.

This term can apply to any organization where like minded people join together.

Such as; a Black nurses organization or a Black Law association.

Lets just look at a few more shall we?

African American Museum Association (AAMA)

An institution whose purpose is to encourage and promote the celebration of African American culture and heritage through public exhibitions.

www.blackmuseums.org

Afro-American Historical and Genealogical Society

An African American organization encouraging academic research into African American history and geology.

www.aahgs.org

Association of Black Foundation Executives (ABFE)

For men and women on staffs or boards of corporate and foundation grant-making organizations.

www.abfe.org

Association of Black Psychologists

An association geared towards uniting black psychologists, both professionals and students, to encourage the psychological well-being of African Americans.

www.abpsi.org

Association of Black Sociologist (ABS)

For African American sociologists with doctorates who contribute to research and publish findings on black experiences.

www.blacksociologist.org

Association of Black Women in Higher Education (ABWHE)

An organization and association of black women, established to foster and expand the historically substantive role of African American women in higher education.

www.abwhe.org

Black Agency Executives (BAE)

Shines a light on the growing need for African American executives in the not-for-profit human service community of New York City.

www.blackagencyexecutives.org

Black Awareness in Television (BAIT)

An organization that communicates and presents black ideas to the community, encourages affirmative action in the media, and facilitates communications for black groups through the means of electronic media.

www.projectbait.blackgold.net

Black Caucus of the American Library Association (BCALA)

Calls attention to the need of facilitated access to library services in African American communities.

www.bcala.org

Black Filmmakers Foundation (BFF)

A not-for-profit organization founded to develop awareness of black independent film and video as an important means of artistic movement.

www.surview.com

Black Psychiatrists of America (BPA)

A resource of psychiatric information, education, and training for African American psychiatrists on the special mental health needs of the black population.

www.blackpsych.org

Black Retail Action Group, Inc.

Formed to stimulate minorities' interest in the field of retailing at all levels.

www.bragusa.org

Black Unites Front (National Black United Front NBUF)

An alternative African American movement organization that develops programs geared toward strengthening black families.

www.nbufront.org

Black Women's Forum

Provides a platform of regular discussion on issues of concern to black women.

www.blackwomensforum.com

Black Women in Church and Society (BWCS)

Provides leadership, training, and develops support structures to help women in fulfilling responsibilities brought on by their increased participation in religious activities in the U.S. and in the Third World.

www.itc.edu

Black Women in Publishing (BWIP)

Supplies information, moral support, and a network used to exchange ideas and improve skills for black professional women in the publishing field.

www.bwip.org

Black Women's Network (Los Angeles)

Gives access to resources and networking opportunities for professional and entrepreneurial women, as well as those seeking to develop, start, or transfer careers.

www.blackwomensnetwork.net

Blacks in Government

First started to promote the interests of African American civil servants working in federal, state, and local levels of government.

www.bignet.org

Coalition of Black Trade Unionists

A union based organization set on the improvement of social-economic level of minorities while concurrently strengthening trade unionism in general by bringing more African Americans into the labor movement.

www.cbtu.org

Congressional Black Caucus Foundation, Inc.

First started to support and conduct nonpartisan research, technical assistance, training education, and informational activities as well as create programs whose purpose is to advance political participation by African Americans and other minority group members.

www.cbcfinc.org

Executive Leadership Council

A not for profit, independent, non-partisan organization made up of high ranking African American executives from Fortune 100 business corporations.

www.elcinfo.com

Federation of Southern Cooperatives Land Assistance Fund

A resource guide, advocacy group, and technical assistance advisory for member coops on black land loss and land retention in the southeast.

www.federationsoutherncoop.com

International Association of Black Professional Fire Fighters

A group for fire fighters, which was formed with the understanding of the need to shine a bright light on the needs of black fire fighters throughout the United States of America.

www.iabpff.org

International Black Writers

A committee of authors and journalists committed to encouraging black writers nationwide to produce fiction and non-fiction work concerning black ideas, concepts, and ideologies.

www.ibwa.tripod.com

Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity, Inc.

A fraternity intent on fostering black achievement on college campuses across the country by providing a support group and resource for African American men of culture, patriotism, and honor.

www.kappaalphapsi1911.com

Moorland-Spingarn Research Center (MSRC)

Located on the campus of Hoard University, this research center is one of the world's largest and most comprehensive repositories of several well-documented collections on the history and culture of people of African descent in the Americas, Africa, and Europe.

www.founders.howard.edu/moorland-spingarn

National Action Council for Minorities in Engineering (NACME)

Founded to address the problem of the under representation of African Americans, Mexican Americans, Puerto Ricans, and Native Americans in the field of engineering.

www.nacme.org

National Alliance of Black School Educators (NABSE)

Developing black leadership and influencing policy within the educational community through NASBE's roster of black teachers, administrators, policymakers, and support personnel.

www.nasbe.org

National Association for the Advancement of Colored People

Organized as a coalition of black political activists and white progressives, the NAACP operates through more than 2,200 branches for the advancement of African Americans.

www.naacp.org

NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, Inc.

Originally set up as a national civil rights law firm, this group provides free legal representation to blacks in cases against discrimination in education, employment, voting, housing, health care, and administration of criminal justice.

www.naacpldf.org

National Association of Black Accountants, Inc.

Dedicated to the collaboration between accountants and accounting students with similar interest and ideals, who are equally committed to professional and academic excellence.

www.nbainc.org

National Association of Black Catholic Administrators

An association heading offices for black Catholic ministries in the Roman Catholic dioceses.

www.nabacaonline.org

National Association of Black County Officials

An association formed for black county officials to review, share, and develop responses to local and national issues affecting their constituency and county government.

www.blackcountyofficials.com

National Association of Black Journalists

Representing a majority of African American journalists in the nation's major newspapers, magazines, radio, and television stations and networks.

www.nabj.org

National Association of Black Social Workers, Inc.

Organized to provide a structure and forum through which African American social workers and workers in related fields of social services can exchange ideas, offer services, and develop programs which work in cooperation, support, development, or sponsorship with community welfare projects and programs.

www.nabsw.org

National Association of Black-Owned Broadcasters

This association provides information on the broadcast industry and the Federal Communications Commissions to both the general public and to its members.

www.nabob.org

National Association of Blacks in Criminal Justice

A national organization designed to examine and act upon the needs and concerns of African Americans and other minorities in the administration of equal justice in the United States.

www.nabcj.org

National Association of Colored Women's Clubs (NACWC)

A group open to women interested in pursuing civic, education, and social-based activities, which will benefit the African American community at large.

www.nacaw.org

National Association of Minority Contractors

This is a full-service, not-for-profit, educational association representing thousands of African American, Hispanic, Asian Pacific, and Native American construction contractors in the U.S. and the Virgin Islands.

www.namcnation.org

National Association of Minority Media Executives

Founded to establish relationships among experienced officers, editors, and business managers of color in media based industries in the United States.

www.namme.org

National Association of Negro Business and Professional Women's Clubs

Comprised of a coalition of local groups, this organization serves as a support network for tens of thousands of African American women in both professional and business functions.

www.nanbpwc.org

National Association of Urban Bankers (Urban Financial Services Coalition)

An organization made up of minority professionals in the banking industry, as well as other related financial fields.

www.ufscnet.org

National Bankers Association

The proud representative of the only trade association whose main task at hand is the representation of the interests of the nation's minority and women-owned banks.

www.nationalbankers.org

National Black Catholic Congress

Primarily initiated to employ and exhibit the rich gifts of African American history and heritage alongside the Roman Catholic Church, in the process becoming more efficient at evangelizing non-churchgoing African Americans.

www.nbccongress.org

National Black Caucus of Local Elected Officials

A national not-for-profit, non-partisan organization formed to exert a positive influence on the National League of Cities as it develops policies and program activities that affect issues of concern to African Americans in an effort to provide an organizational structure for local black elected officials.

www.nbc-leo.org

National Black Caucus of State Legislators

A black caucus established to function as an informational resource and network for African American state legislators.

www.nbcslonline.org

National Black Chambers of Commerce

Forged to promote the growth of black-owned businesses and support African American members of the chambers of commerce.

www.nationalbcc.org

National Black Child Development Institute

Standing firmly in support of the improvement of the quality of life and available opportunities for African American Children.

www.nbcdi.org

National Black College Alumni Hall of Fame Foundation

An alumni foundation set up to preserve and highlight the accomplishments and contributions of historically black colleges and universities and their alumni with the assistance from alumni, administrators, students, corporations, and not-for-profit organizations.

www.nbcahof.org

National Black MBA Association, Inc.

A not-for-profit association for minorities who have received MBA's in both or either the private and public sectors.

www.nbmbaa.org

National Black Media Coalition

Founded as an organization of communication specialists to monitor African American participation in the media industry.

www.nbmc.org

National Black Nurses Association, Inc.

An association tasked with recruiting for the nursing field, operates as a job bank, functions as a resource for federal agencies to gather information concerning health care, and monitors federal legislation with a special focus on minorities.

www.nbna.org

National Black Police Association, Inc.

An organization comprised of African American police members dedicated to the promotion of justice, fairness, and effectiveness in law enforcement.

www.blackpolice.org

National Black Programming Consortium

A consortium for African American professionals across the United States working in the television industry and seeks to develop more positive portrayals of minorities.

www.nbpc.tv

National Black Public Relations Society of America

A public relations committee who was formed with the fundamental purpose of promoting and expanding the opportunities available to minorities in public relations.

www.nbprsa.org

National Black Republican Council

A political organization urging blacks to become more active in politics as members of the Republican Party.

www.nationalblackrepublicans.com

National Black United Fund

This fund has been founded with the purpose of the solicitation of charitable funds from African Americans so as to generously distribute the collected proceeds to deserving black organizations nationwide.

www.nbuf.org

National Bowling Association, Inc.

The oldest and largest predominately black athletic association in the U.S. organized at the time when African Americans were not readily allowed in many of the nation's bowling allies.

www.tnbainc.org

National Brotherhood of Skiers

Primarily organized to promote both recreational and competitive skiing among minorities. This brotherhood also encourages black youth from around the country to participate in the organization's effort to identify, develop, and finance the training of future United States Ski Team members.

www.nbs.org

National Caucus and Center on Black Aged, Inc.

Serves as an advocate on issues affecting the black elderly in regards to Congress and Federal agencies, as well as providing employment, housing and training opportunities for seniors.

www.ncba-aged.org

National Coalition of 100 Black Women

A not-for-profit volunteer coalition dedicated to community service, leadership development, and the enhancement of career opportunities through networking and programming.

www.ncbw.org

National Conference of Black Mayors, Inc.

A non-partisan nationwide conference providing means of service to African American mayors across the nation.

www.ncbm.org

National Conference of Black Political Scientists

Formed by a group of political scientists concerned about the status of blacks in the discipline of science as well as that of the African American community in general.

www.ncobps.org

National Dental Association

Designed to promote the professional development of black dentists, support comprehensive health care programs for the minority community, and establish a professional presence at legislative levels responsible for discussions on health care delivery.

www.ndaonline.org

National Economic Association

Created by African American economists, this association aims to promote the professional careers of blacks within the field of economics and increase the number of minority economists in America.

www.neaecon.org

National Forum for Black Public Administrator

A comprehensive forum devoted completely to the advancement of black public administrative leadership in the United States.

www.nfbpa.org

National Suppliers Development Council, Inc.

A council established to expand business opportunities for minority-owned companies, as well as encourage mutually beneficial economic links between minority suppliers and both the public and private sectors.

www.nsdc.org

National Naval Officers Association

Advertises professional and career development of minority officers in the United States Navy, Marine Corps, and Coast Guard.

www.nnoa.org

National Newspaper Publisher Association

This organization aids and represents the publishers of the several hundred black newspapers and magazines through the United States of America.

www.nnpa.org

National Organization of Black Law Enforcement Executives

Committed to the principles of justice as it is related to law enforcement and to ensure fairness in the pursuit of justice, as well as the elimination of racism and bias within law enforcement.

www.noblenational.org

National Organization of Minority Architects

An organization made up of architects on professional, graduate, and even student levels, as well as practitioners in related design fields.

www.noma.net

National Pan-Hellenic Council

A nationwide council tasked with the coordination of the activities of inter-collegiate Greek Letter sororities and fraternities who are active on black college campuses.

www.nphcg.org

National Pharmaceutical Association

A not-for-profit organization that provides minority pharmacists with a viable means to contribute to their common improvement as well as to the public good.

www.npha.net

National Congress of Black Women, Inc.

An independent, non-partisan political organization which encourages all African American women to participate in political processes as voters, political candidates, policymakers, fundraisers, and as political role models for aspiring youth.

www.nationalcongressbw.org

New Professional Theatre

Founded to increase opportunities in the performing arts for minorities with special emphasis on minority women involved in acting, dancing, singing, directing, and stage managing and other arts and crafts of the theatre.

www.newprofessionaltheatre.org

One Hundred Black Men

One Hundred Black Men was originally created with the intention of achieving meaningful improvement to black housing, education, employment, health services, government, and the overall quality of life for minorities.

www.100blackmen.org

Opera North

Represented as the only minority opera company owned and operated by blacks, its purpose is to provide additional opportunities for gifted minority singers, instrumentalists, directors, and conductors in the field of grand opera. www.operanorth.com

Organization of Black Airline Pilots, Inc. (Organization of Black Aerospace Professionals)

An organization established to ensure that African Americans and other minorities have access to a support group that could provide information on opportunities for advancement within commercial aviation.

www.obap.org

Phi Delta Kappa, Inc.

An organization of African American teachers who are dedicated to the fostering of a spirit of true sisterhood, all whilst upholding the very highest ideals in regards to the teaching profession at all levels.

www.sororitynpdk.org

Progressive National Baptist Convention, Inc.

Began as a movement reflecting of the religious, social, and political climate of its time and later became a convention orchestrated by its earliest members involved in the freedom movement for African Americans in the United States.

www.pnbc.org

Schomburg Center for Research in Black Culture

A branch of the New York Public Library system, its focus remains on preserving an extensive private collection of books on African American culture by the late Arthur A. Schomburg.

www.nypl.org/locations/schomburg

United Negro College Fund

A well-known and well-represented united college fund primarily organized to raise money for the nation's historically black private institutions of higher education.

www.uncf.org

UNCF's National Alumni Council

An alumni council established as an umbrella organization for hundreds of thousands of alumni and currently enrolled students alike for the 42 UNCF member colleges.

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

Holee fyck, methinks someone just discovered GOOGLE.COM!!!

[Danno 1,228]

And the fact that those experiences shape their hiring practices are wrong. I've heard it so many times, a black person robbed me so all are criminals, a black guy did me wrong, so I can't date anymore black guys. If the person was white, would the effect still be the same?

It's about qualifications. If that black guy with dreds is qualified, he should get the job over a white kid who isn't but looks like the owner.

That white guy conducted research concerning black people. He went and talked to them, interacted with them, got his information from them and wrote his thesis. You on the other hand, refuse to interact with any black person. You constantly bring up issues that highlight problems in the black community, yet you won't have this conversation with any black person IRL.

TO your first points, I agree, we must always judge individuals on their own merits.

The researcher was a Women, no doubt from some Kenndy'ish exclusive town in the North East.

She should do more than associate with Blacks at the college level she should rub shoulders as I have with all type of Black (as well as other folks).

For her, everything is an academic study, theories hammered out during discussions in the faculty lounge or while smoking one in the dorms.

That has it's value but it;'s very limiting.

Edited January 28, 2014 by Danno

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

I agree.

[deleted-05292014 331]

Thats an interesting study though it is very light on facts and numbers and the sort of detail one might like to know about the research. I suppose we could dig it up as this was part of her doctrinal work.

There is no doubt in my mind that when it comes to small businesses, it is more difficult for a Black to land a job. There are a number of reasons for that, the two biggest being plain ole bias and the other is "life experience" often people have a bad experience concerning Blacks (or whoever) and they apply that in decisions they make.

Another factor is people most often gravitate towards people they can relate to. An Old white guy might warm up to a white kid who looks more like his grandson that a Black guy with dreds?

We see the same thing when you go to an black owned business, the vast majority of workers are Black as well. IN fact this is common among most small businesses owned by a Asian or hispanics.

The white guy with the police record (in the research)... I wish they had told us what the crime was that so many employers over looked it?

Marv it would appear, the author of that study is fixated on the subject of Blacks and their issues, does that not bother you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devah_Pager

Once again, you make these statements and you have no factual basis to them. It's like you're mentally starring in your own Al Josten minstrel. In this post you readily admit that people gravitate towards people that they can relate to. Yet in another post you seem to say, "well i don't know why people want to join an organization that is themed with just their group". So which is it?

First of all when you are talking about small owned businesses, are you talking about a business defined by the government as being a small business or are you talking about family owned stores like a little Asian grocery market on some corner. Yeah in that example chances are you will usually find other family members or friends working there who are Asian. In the US a small business is defined by under 500 employees. My very first engineering job was in a minority, Black to be specific, owned company. The CEO and the CIO were Black. Aside from me I think there were maybe 3 other Blacks working in the company, most of the employees there were White. When you use language like the "vast majority" I would love to see some factual evidence to back up your claims. This was a multi-million dollar earning firm with maybe a little over 100 employees so they did very well.

I think your statements tell more about who you are as a person than anything else. Anyway most Black people I know are well-to-do Professionals like doctors, lawyers, engineers, and so on. Theres more baby mommas and welfare queens in your community than mine so why don't you focus your energies on them and not worry about matters you know nothing about.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

So minorities want to be equal while getting special treatment? WIll never happen.

You must be a good dance because I love how you twisted my words.

I know I can't do this every day I haven't gotten any work done all day. I'm gonna end up being a Danno self fulfilled statistic of being another black man unemployed. He'll be like 72% +1 of all Blackies are unemployed.

Please don't become one of Danno's stats. He would really love this.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

Give me a break. In the last 3 IT jobs I've had in Texas, blacks were represented just fine. Probably more so in relation to their percentage of the population. IDK, maybe Texas is ahead of other states whe it comes to racial harmony.

You mean black as in a dark skinned Indian from India? Because that is all I see in IT jobs here in Texas. It's so crazy half the kids in college don't want to do IT because they won't get the job.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

That modeling jab is recent. Do I have to post about having a black name can hurt you in the job field? Jamal, Deshawn, or Darius can be certain death on an application.

Heck yea. My brother and his wife had an argument over this. She wanted to name their little boy Keithefer, Jake or Stuart and my brother said no. She was upset because she said if they gave him a black name he would never make it through the door for an interview.

[deleted-05292014 331]

No, actually what is painfully obvious is your reading comprehension...... but never mind, thats what I am here for.... to make the cloudy clear.

You confused "fraternal' to a limited scope.

This term can apply to any organization where like minded people join together.

Such as; a Black nurses organization or a Black Law association.

Lets just look at a few more shall we?

I did not confuse anything nor is my scope limited. The United Negro College Fund founded in 1944. So whats your point? I mean just because you pasted a bunch of organizations does not mean squat to defend your original statements that most of these organizations were founded after what?? After slavery? After Jim Crow? like since you're the knowing seeing eye of racial harmony, you tell me what year we reached a racial harmonious utopia. What about the ADL, are they still needed?

Most "themed" organizations, and I use that term to include religious, cultural, racial, whatever exist for networking opportunities. Some groups, I'm not saying no names...rich White dudes,,,,,have a history of excluding anyone from their groups who do not fit into their mold. Even today a lot of times to be successful in big business it is not what you know but who you know. Networking is the one way that those 1%ers have kept most of the wealth in this country. They didn't even work for it in most cases but inheritance. They promote their own and even if you are White and come from a different class you will not be accepted in their ranks. Now if a young Black engineer coming out of college can't break into those ranks well maybe they are more welcomed with other Black engineers or professionals who will be a mentor and help him or her succeed. Why do you have a problem with that? How does that affect YOU. It doesn't at all.....your anti-stance is based in pure bigotry and ignorance.

Even beyond that, you seem to want to discount or marginalize diversity. Diversity is what makes America great.