Single Parents block upward mobility says New Harvard Study

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Correction, it can be 'a' path to poverty. In other cases the poverty was there to start with.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

In his defense, he DOES live in the state with the lowest graduation rate for blacks in the US from my reading online.

I'm not arguring that. I was just asking for links for clarification purposes. Just like Lost said 80% in a link that was over 6 years old. I knew that more blacks graduate from high school than that. Where NB is from in Georgia, I'I'd wager his numbers would be close to that.

Perhaps you people who disagree with the fact that not getting a high school degree and being unmarried female who had a child at age 16 or less is THE path into poverty ... start posting some links to back that up your observations

Chances are, the folks you're talking about are already poor.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I'm still not hearing his proposals to attempt to resolve these problems.

Edited January 27, 2014 by Papa Lazarou

[Janelle2002 3,865]

Look at percentages of underage pregnancies.

Teen Population by Race/Ethnicity

Statistic

Texas

United States

Non-Hispanic White Females, 2010

344,749

6,175,466

Non-Hispanic Black Females, 2010

124,298

1,731,376

American Indian Females, 2010

12,090

191,284

Asian or Hawaiian/Other Pacific Islander Females, 2010

35,044

572,320

Hispanic Females, 2010

409,871

2,186,082

Number of Teen Pregnancies by Race/Ethnicity

Statistic

Texas

United States

Non-Hispanic Whites, 2008

20,530

274,990

African Americans, 2008

21,230

217,960

Hispanics, 2008

45,500

219,510

Number of Teen Births by Race/Ethnicity

Statistic

Texas

United States

Non-Hispanic White Girls, 2011

9,197

129,329

Hispanic Girls, 2011

27,469

109,660

Non-Hispanic Black Girls, 2011

5,760

78,558

Native American Girls, 2011

133

6,802

Asian/Pacific Islander Girls, 2011

268

5,708

Subsequent Teen Births by Race/Ethnicity

Statistic

Texas

United States

Non-Hispanic Whites, 2011

16%

14%

Hispanics, 2011

23%

21%

Non-Hispanic Blacks, 2011

20%

20%

Native Americans, 2011

17%

19%

Asian/Pacific Islanders, 2011

16%

17%

Sooo, people with money has the best access to birth control yes? Who didn't use birth control, the poorer people.

Used Birth Control Pills at Last Sex by Race/Ethnicity

Statistic

Texas

United States

Non-Hispanic White, 2011

15.8%

24%

Non-Hispanic Black, 2011

9.8%

10.1%

Hispanic, 2011

8.4%

10.6%

Sexually Active by Race/Ethnicity

Statistic

Texas

United States

Non-Hispanic White, 2011

33.8%

32.4%

Non-Hispanic Black, 2011

39.4%

41.3%

Hispanic, 2011

38.1%

33.5%

Bottom line, lets stop acting like this is just a black thing. This is a U.S. moral decay thing that will continue to progress.

thanks

Edited January 27, 2014 by Janelle2002

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Where do you people get these stats from? I have yet to find a link that boasts that much of a dropout rate. Between 40 and 45 percent I'll give you, but 60 to 80%? What school districts are you talking about?

Slightly Higher for black males

http://macon.13wmaz.com/news/education/68731-bibb-countys-graduation-rate-51-percent

Edited January 28, 2014 by The Nature Boy

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Look at percentages of underage pregnancies.

Teen Population by Race/Ethnicity

Statistic

Texas

United States

Non-Hispanic White Females, 2010

344,749

6,175,466

Non-Hispanic Black Females, 2010

124,298

1,731,376

American Indian Females, 2010

12,090

191,284

Asian or Hawaiian/Other Pacific Islander Females, 2010

35,044

572,320

Hispanic Females, 2010

409,871

2,186,082

Number of Teen Pregnancies by Race/Ethnicity

Statistic

Texas

United States

Non-Hispanic Whites, 2008

20,530

274,990

African Americans, 2008

21,230

217,960

Hispanics, 2008

45,500

219,510

Number of Teen Births by Race/Ethnicity

Statistic

Texas

United States

Non-Hispanic White Girls, 2011

9,197

129,329

Hispanic Girls, 2011

27,469

109,660

Non-Hispanic Black Girls, 2011

5,760

78,558

Native American Girls, 2011

133

6,802

Asian/Pacific Islander Girls, 2011

268

5,708

Subsequent Teen Births by Race/Ethnicity

Statistic

Texas

United States

Non-Hispanic Whites, 2011

16%

14%

Hispanics, 2011

23%

21%

Non-Hispanic Blacks, 2011

20%

20%

Native Americans, 2011

17%

19%

Asian/Pacific Islanders, 2011

16%

17%

Sooo, people with money has the best access to birth control yes? Who didn't use birth control, the poorer people.

Used Birth Control Pills at Last Sex by Race/Ethnicity

Statistic

Texas

United States

Non-Hispanic White, 2011

15.8%

24%

Non-Hispanic Black, 2011

9.8%

10.1%

Hispanic, 2011

8.4%

10.6%

Sexually Active by Race/Ethnicity

Statistic

Texas

United States

Non-Hispanic White, 2011

33.8%

32.4%

Non-Hispanic Black, 2011

39.4%

41.3%

Hispanic, 2011

38.1%

33.5%

Bottom line, lets stop acting like this is just a black thing. This is a U.S. moral decay thing that will continue to progress.

thanks

No body said it's just a black thing..However it is much more prevalent, leading to many of the issues in that community

About 72+ rate for blacks, 29.1+ for whites.Oddly Asians who typically enjoy a very strong family structure only come in at 17+

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/329432/latest-statistics-illegitimate-births-roger-clegg

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

um, no. try using your brain instead of belching up letters.

Because, no matter how valid one's argument, you libs always end with an insult,(as evidenced above) that has nothing to do with debate, because logic escapes most of you.

So about 4 standard answers will work on 95% of all liberals

It prevents this.

F. You said this

No I didn't

Yeah you did

Nu uh

Yu huh

Nope

Yep

.....................

You're dumb

You can't read

I'm done with you

Good.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Yep, this is the truth. They will not read it. Too many words.

sadly, your jab at your admiring opposition, is alarmingly accurate.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

The ones I posted show record improvement since 2008. You're quoting a stat that's 6 years old. Black graduation rates have climbed since then.

Word

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/02/justice/georgia-cheating-scandal/

In 2009, Hall was named the National Superintendent of the Year by the Schools Superintendents Association, which at the time said her "leadership has turned Atlanta into a model of urban school reform."

Former Atlanta schools superintendent reports to jail in cheating scandal

(CNN) -- The former superintendent of Atlanta Public Schools was among the educators who surrendered to authorities Tuesday after being indicted by a grand jury in a cheating scandal that rocked the district and drew national attention.

Beverly Hall resigned from her position in 2011 after a state investigation into large, unexplained test score gains in some Atlanta schools. She has denied any role in the cheating scandal.

A Fulton County grand jury last week indicted 35 educators from the district, including principals, teachers and testing coordinators. They were ordered to turn themselves in by Tuesday, District Attorney Paul Howard said.

By 10:00 p.m., 27 of 35 educators had turned themselves in at the Fulton County Jail to face charges including racketeering, theft by taking and making false statements about their roles in an alleged plot to falsify students' standardized tests. Eight of them had been released on bond late Tuesday, the Fulton County Sheriff's office said.

In 2009, Hall was named the National Superintendent of the Year by the Schools Superintendents Association, which at the time said her "leadership has turned Atlanta into a model of urban school reform."

Grand jury indicts 35 in Georgia school cheating scandal

Cheating scandal hits Atlanta schools First indicted educator turns self in 35 employees indicted in cheating scandal

But the indictment paints another picture of Hall, one of a superintendent with "a single-minded purpose, and that is to cheat," Howard told reporters last week.

According to the indictment, Hall placed unreasonable goals on educators and "protected and rewarded those who achieved targets by cheating." It also alleges she fired principals who failed to achieve goals and "ignored suspicious" test score gains throughout the school system.

Her bond was reduced from $7.5 million to $200,000, the Fulton County Sheriff's office reported.

On Tuesday, bond was set at $1 million for Donald Bullock, a testing coordinator at Usher/Collier Heights Elementary School, Theresia Copeland, a testing coordinator at Benteen Elementary School, and Gregory Reid, a Parks Middle School assistant principal. Bond amounts were set by grand jurors.

Others who turned themselves in included testing coordinators, teachers and an instructional coach, said Fulton County Sheriff spokeswoman Tracy Flanagan.

Investigations into the remarkable improvements on standardized tests were first reported by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution newspaper. A state review determined that some cheating had occurred in more than half the district's elementary and middle schools. About 180 teachers were implicated initially. Cheating is believed to date back to early 2001, when standardized testing scores began to turn around in the 50,000-student school district, according to the indictment.

For at least four years, between 2005 and 2009, test answers were altered, fabricated and falsely certified, the indictment said.

"We've had cheating all up and down the line. It was absolutely amazing," said Michael Bowers, a former Georgia attorney general who investigated the cheating scandal.

Bowers said there were cheating parties, erasures in and out of classrooms, and teachers were told to make changes to tests. "Anything that you can imagine that could involve cheating, it was done."

During the investigation, he heard that educators cheated out of pride, to earn bonuses, to enhance their careers or to keep their jobs, he said. Some teachers, overcome with emotion, fainted during his interview with them, he said.

"Not only were the children deprived, a lot of teachers were forced into cheating, forced into criminal acts," Bowers said. "Now, granted, they did wrong, but a lot of them did this to protect jobs."

Educators and community members reacted Tuesday to the charges.

"The Atlanta school community is obviously very upset about this," said Stephen J. Alford, Atlanta Public Schools' executive director of communications. "I don't want to pass judgment on the people, but we've had a lot of parents who wanted to express their disappointment."

In a statement, American Federation of Teachers President Randi Weingarten and Georgia Federation of Teachers President Verdaillia Turner wrote: "We do not condone cheating under any circumstances. Academic achievement can never be separated from academic integrity, which is why the Georgia Federation of Teachers was the first whistle-blower to expose Atlanta testing irregularities.

"Tragically, the Atlanta cheating scandal harmed our children and it crystallizes the unintended consequences of our test-crazed policies."

[Janelle2002 3,865]

No body said it's just a black thing..However it is much more prevalent, leading to many of the issues in that community

About 72+ rate for blacks, 29.1+ for whites.Oddly Asians who typically enjoy a very strong family structure only come in at 17+

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/329432/latest-statistics-illegitimate-births-roger-clegg

If your arguments are not just black only, why is it you are not posting about other issues that affect other races predominantly other than black. And go ahead and lie and pretend there isn't any.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

If your arguments are not just black only, why is it you are not posting about other issues that affect other races predominantly other than black. And go ahead and lie and pretend there isn't any.

There aren't any

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

If your arguments are not just black only, why is it you are not posting about other issues that affect other races predominantly other than black. And go ahead and lie and pretend there isn't any.

I was the OP.. The article was about poverty and it's causes in general, not specific to any race. You may not realize it but this threads diverge into race usually because a poster. usually get very defensive about a subject they claim has nothing to do with race, but oddly enough are the first ones to say it is about race.

In this case it was not made about race until Post 4..That would have been you .

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/477212-single-parents-block-upward-mobility-says-new-harvard-study/?p=6779271

[Janelle2002 3,865]

There aren't any

I love people in denial. More of a Hitler type yes?

I was the OP.. The article was about poverty and it's causes in general, not specific to any race. You may not realize it but this threads diverge into race usually because a poster. usually get very defensive about a subject they claim has nothing to do with race, but oddly enough are the first ones to say it is about race.

In this case it was not made about race until Post 4..That would have been you .

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/477212-single-parents-block-upward-mobility-says-new-harvard-study/?p=6779271

I think everyone pretty much knew what you were implying. So instead of beating around the bush I went ahead and stated the obvious,

I was the OP.. The article was about poverty and it's causes in general, not specific to any race. You may not realize it but this threads diverge into race usually because a poster. usually get very defensive about a subject they claim has nothing to do with race, but oddly enough are the first ones to say it is about race.

In this case it was not made about race until Post 4..That would have been you .

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/477212-single-parents-block-upward-mobility-says-new-harvard-study/?p=6779271

I think everyone pretty much knew what you were implying. So instead of beating around the bush I went ahead and stated the obvious,

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I love people in denial. More of a Hitler type yes?

I think everyone pretty much knew what you were implying. So instead of beating around the bush I went ahead and stated the obvious,

I think everyone pretty much knew what you were implying. So instead of beating around the bush I went ahead and stated the obvious,

So I am Hitler know, because I hate to see unwanted kids born into poverty Sweet.

where I was going is that generational poverty is enabled by a govt system, that rewards behavior that is proven to keep people in poverty.

You made it about race, and that is the direction it went.

I guess since you already knew that it is far more prevalent in the black community, you just went ahead and went into denial early.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

So I am Hitler know, because I hate to see unwanted kids born into poverty Sweet.

where I was going is that generational poverty is enabled by a govt system, that rewards behavior that is proven to keep people in poverty.

You made it about race, and that is the direction it went.

I guess since you already knew that it is far more prevalent in the black community, you just went ahead and went into denial early.

Nope. I'm just pointing at your obvious racial superiority mentality. Every race is so good except the black people, yada yada yada junk as if other races don't have problems.

Let you tell it, they don't.

The Hitler mentality that leads many nations to genocide because they believe they are superior and flawless.

Edited January 28, 2014 by Janelle2002