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You're half right. I think fear is a big component, but not of racism. Black people are viewed as more dangerous than any other race on the planet. And the zero tolerance policy doesn't help because it's broad sweeping.

I was thinking more of fear of the accusation of racism, than of fear of racism itself.

What should be obvious to an outsider is that this very practice is, in itself, inherently racist. Which means that in doing everything to avoid possible accusations of racism, they just remove all doubt and go all in. :(

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Then white students who don't have a father, wouldn't the same apply? I didn't have a connection with my father, yet I turned out ok.

And those white kids that went on and committed shootouts in schools and malls, did they have fathers?

-The white kid would absolutely be effected the same way though typically to a lesser degree and here is why: Kids are shaped primarily by family, secondarily by community. If the black community is riddled with father less children, the Black child gets a double hit-

1. Family lacks a fathers contribution, guidance and example.

2. Community mirrors the same dysfunction on the street.

The White kid because he comes from a demographic in which the community might be more intact, is not so severely impacted as the Black kid statistically would be.

I have noticed a lot of these crazy shootings did involve 1. Broken homes 2. mental disorders.

Of course patterns are not rules but trends and there does seem to be one.

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-The white kid would absolutely be effected the same way though typically to a lesser degree and here is why: Kids are shaped primarily by family, secondarily by community. If the black community is riddled with father less children, the Black child gets a double hit-

1. Family lacks a fathers contribution, guidance and example.

2. Community mirrors the same dysfunction on the street.

The White kid because he comes from a demographic in which the community might be more intact, is not so severely impacted as the Black kid statistically would be.

I have noticed a lot of these crazy shootings did involve 1. Broken homes 2. mental disorders.

Of course patterns are not rules but trends and there does seem to be one.

But the black community isn't riddle with less fathers, many have dads. But no one focuses on that.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/opinion/editorial-national-study-defies-cultural-stereotypes-of-black-fathers/article_b82b286b-d051-51b6-9495-bafdbd76e566.html

Seventy percent of black fathers who live with their kids help them with the daily functions of life, compared with 60 percent of white and 45 percent of Latino dads, reports theNational Center for Health Statistics, an arm of the Centers for Disease Control.

When it comes to other activities, such as reading to their young children daily, 35 percent of black fathers do that, compared with 30 percent of white and 22 percent of Latino dads.

Black fathers also scored high marks when the study looked at fathers who live apart from their children. The report showed that among fathers who did not live with their older children, more than half said they talked to their children about their day several times a week or more.

That was a higher percentage than white or Latino fathers who lived apart from their older children.

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-The white kid would absolutely be effected the same way though typically to a lesser degree and here is why: Kids are shaped primarily by family, secondarily by community. If the black community is riddled with father less children, the Black child gets a double hit-

1. Family lacks a fathers contribution, guidance and example.

2. Community mirrors the same dysfunction on the street.

The White kid because he comes from a demographic in which the community might be more intact, is not so severely impacted as the Black kid statistically would be.

I have noticed a lot of these crazy shootings did involve 1. Broken homes 2. mental disorders.

Of course patterns are not rules but trends and there does seem to be one.

Know what. If TM had been punished for the Vandalism,Theft, and drugs, instead of them looking the other way,because they were trying to get the minority arrested kids numbers down. He might still be here today. Idiotic liberal policies killed TM

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But the black community isn't riddle with less fathers, many have dads. But no one focuses on that.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/opinion/editorial-national-study-defies-cultural-stereotypes-of-black-fathers/article_b82b286b-d051-51b6-9495-bafdbd76e566.html

Seventy percent of black fathers who live with their kids help them with the daily functions of life, compared with 60 percent of white and 45 percent of Latino dads, reports theNational Center for Health Statistics, an arm of the Centers for Disease Control.

When it comes to other activities, such as reading to their young children daily, 35 percent of black fathers do that, compared with 30 percent of white and 22 percent of Latino dads.

Black fathers also scored high marks when the study looked at fathers who live apart from their children. The report showed that among fathers who did not live with their older children, more than half said they talked to their children about their day several times a week or more.

That was a higher percentage than white or Latino fathers who lived apart from their older children.

But the report doesn't deal with the numbers of fathers that live with their children. Rather it deals with what percentage of those that do then take an active role in their children's upbringing. Edited by Pooky

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Know what. If TM had been punished for the Vandalism,Theft, and drugs, instead of them looking the other way,because they were trying to get the minority arrested kids numbers down. He might still be here today. Idiotic liberal policies killed TM

No, a gun toting super NBW guy killed TM. He was walking home from the store when GZ confronted him. Had GZ just identified himself, or better yet, just called the cops and let them do their jobs, TM would still be alive.

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Know what. If TM had been punished for the Vandalism,Theft, and drugs, instead of them looking the other way,because they were trying to get the minority arrested kids numbers down. He might still be here today. Idiotic liberal policies killed TM

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That lady..... sometimes white people are so embarrassing. (actually is it more than sometimes)

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But the report doesn't deal with the numbers of fathers that live with their children. Rather it deals with what percentage of those that do then take an active role in their children's upbringing.

And that should stand for something. People really believe that black fathers are all dead beats. ALL OF THEM. I posted the story yesterday about the guy who posted a picture of himself brushing his daughter's hair while the baby was strapped to his chest. The amount of hate mail he got was astounding.

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

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And that should stand for something. People really believe that black fathers are all dead beats. ALL OF THEM. I posted the story yesterday about the guy who posted a picture of himself brushing his daughter's hair while the baby was strapped to his chest. The amount of hate mail he got was astounding.

What kind of person would hate on that?

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I'll try to explain this so it makes sense to you. What they are trying to do is make it equal for all students. Minority students are treated more harshly than their white counterparts. If a fight breaks out with black students, the police are called and the kids are arrested. If a fight breaks out with white students, mediation is called and the school handles it.

God you miss the mark so much some times. Blacks don't want a separate standard, but we're constantly given one:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/06/education/black-students-face-more-harsh-discipline-data-shows.html?_r=0

The data also showed that schools with a lot of black and Hispanic students were likely to have relatively inexperienced, and low-paid, teachers. On average, teachers in high-minority schools were paid $2,251 less per year than their colleagues elsewhere. In New York high schools, though, the discrepancy was more than $8,000, and in Philadelphia, more than $14,000.

Why is this NB? Why are schools with blacks and hispanics paid so much less? Why are the teachers less experienced and lower paid?

You did not explain anything and you did not answer.

How, exactly, will reducing discipline for minority students who misbehave benefit their education, their future opportunities or correct ANY other inequities that exist in society? I am trying to stay on topic here.

Please provide links to research. News articles are not research

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“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

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And that should stand for something. People really believe that black fathers are all dead beats. ALL OF THEM. I posted the story yesterday about the guy who posted a picture of himself brushing his daughter's hair while the baby was strapped to his chest. The amount of hate mail he got was astounding.

This is not related to the policy of reducing discipline for misbehaving minority students and really isn't related to anything.

Are you against discipline for minority students? Do you think reducing idisciplne for minorities who misbehave improves their opportunities?

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No, a gun toting super NBW guy killed TM. He was walking home from the store when GZ confronted him. Had GZ just identified himself, or better yet, just called the cops and let them do their jobs, TM would still be alive.

I bet if he had not beaten GZ in the face and called him racial names he might also be alive

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No, a gun toting super NBW guy killed TM. He was walking home from the store when GZ confronted him. Had GZ just identified himself, or better yet, just called the cops and let them do their jobs, TM would still be alive.

TM was killed in righteous self defense while attempting to murder his neighbor. Anyone that believes he was capped on his first attempt to kill someone is naive. There is no telling how many elderly people he beat and murdered before he chose the wrong victim.

My opinion has exactly the same amount of factual basis as yours. More actually, since the first sentence was proven in court.

How will reducing discipline improve education for minorities?

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This is not related to the policy of reducing discipline for misbehaving minority students and really isn't related to anything.

Are you against discipline for minority students? Do you think reducing idisciplne for minorities who misbehave improves their opportunities?

Gary, I covered this in the first page. Discipline should be for all children. Minorities are disciplined harsher for first time offenders than white children.

Being that I come from a family where my mother was a teacher for 40 years, discipline is always needed.

And how can you judge my source when yours is a Yahoo article?

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

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