Woman With 15 Kids: "Somebody needs to be held accountable, and they need to pay."

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I know this might be asking much, but can you at least try to have an argumentative debate with someone without insulting them? Or do you have to do this to prevent yourself from learning anything outside of your usual I hate everyone who doesn't think/look like me?

Odd I have never seen you upset about many of the Liberal posters here who never respond with anything but insults

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Odd I have never seen you upset about many of the Liberal posters here who never respond with anything but insults

Well thats easy, you're biased and not very perceptive.

[decocker 7,198]

Odd I have never seen you upset about many of the Liberal posters here who never respond with anything but insults

nb, i know you weren't talking to me but..you may feel like you're not being insulting and your approach rarely is..but it's your actual opinion (concerning poor black mothers especially) that is insulting.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

wouldn't be awesome if such a thing could be predicted. you can go into a pregnancy married but that doesn't mean you'll stay that way.

The African Illegitimacy rate is approaching 73%, Re-wind and try again

Oddly enough the Illegitimacy rate ranking mirrors the poverty ranking.

66%-American Indians

53% Hispanic

29% White

You're practically begging for a TOS violation from these dudes.

Even more so IRL because this conversation would never be had with an actual black person.

I have had these conversations at length with some of my black friends. Try again. Most of the successful ones already know it

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

It is your fault. Can't you just do what you're told woman!

You know, just like I do, what it is. It's the reason why certain members have to write paragraphs of whimsical poppycock to conceal(not really, cause anyone with 1/8th of a brain can see right through it) their utter disdain for black people, gay people, muslims, any anyone that's not on the right, and women.

It's the reason why some members have the most ignorant hate speech in their sig blocks and yet no one see it.

It's the reason why some members are real quiet when a shooting rampage goes down the the perp is white, yet when they're black, they have no issues saying they would blow them away if one just walked up and said hello.

It's the reason black people have to come up in subjects like solar panels and picnics.

It's the reason why a teenager whose list of crimes(weed, a few fights, graffiti, and some stolen jewelry) is considered more dangerous than Adam Lanza, James Homes, and Aaron Alexis. Yet the guy who shot him, who has several run ins with the law(domestic violence 3 times that we know of, resisting arrest, assaulting a police officer, etc) is considered a model citizen.

Dude you bring up Race more than anyone here,,Well maybe with one exception, but as far as he is to one extreme you are to the other. Everything bad that every happens to a black person is racism. Every Black movie should win an academy award.You and Danno both are absolutely obsessed with race.

[decocker 7,198]

The African Illegitimacy rate is approaching 73%, Re-wind and try again

Oddly enough the Illegitimacy rate ranking mirrors the poverty ranking.

66%-American Indians

53% Hispanic

29% White

I have had these conversations at length with some of my black friends. Try again. Most of the successful ones already know it

look, this is my rewind and try again..

i don't believe in illegitimate people. or illegal people. so your entire argument falls flat for me.

i gave birth to a 'legitimate' child within the union of a marraige. and i have always, always, been a single parent, even though my son was seven when his father and i divorced. plain and simple.

You and Danno both are absolutely obsessed with race.

dude. we all talk about race here all the damn time. just stop, marvin and danno are no worse or better than any other poster here.

Edited January 20, 2014 by val erie

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

nb, i know you weren't talking to me but..you may feel like you're not being insulting and your approach rarely is..but it's your actual opinion (concerning poor black mothers especially) that is insulting.

No you can be an ####### at time just like me, but generally speaking you are civil in presenting your outrageous leftist opinions

I have no problem with poor mothers of any race, who struggle and try but need help

I do have a huge problem with those generational lifestyle women, who never have done anything but have babies and live off the Govt.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Odd I have never seen you upset about many of the Liberal posters here who never respond with anything but insults

The only "liberal" that even comes close to what you're talking about is MBD. He's the left's answer to the hateful stuff that comes from the right. And most of his stuff is tame compared to the amount of bile that ejects from some of the more "conservative" members here.

The African Illegitimacy rate is approaching 73%, Re-wind and try again

Oddly enough the Illegitimacy rate ranking mirrors the poverty ranking.

66%-American Indians

53% Hispanic

29% White

I have had these conversations at length with some of my black friends. Try again. Most of the successful ones already know it

My post was dealing with the people who swear they give a damn about black people, but can't count a single black person as a friend or even an acquaintance.

[Operator 1,927]

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

look, this is my rewind and try again..

i don't believe in illegitimate people. or illegal people. so your entire argument falls flat for me.

i gave birth to a 'legitimate' child within the union of a marraige. and i have always, always, been a single parent, even though my son was seven when his father and i divorced. plain and simple.

dude. we all talk about race here all the damn time. just stop, marvin and danno are no worse or better than any other poster here.

Actually both are better than most of the Posters here, with the exception of race obsession, but we all got out thing.

Illegitimate may be an outdated term, but you know what i mean. Anybody that has kids , on purpose they know they can not afford, is the cancer I speak of.

I am not talking about accidental pregnancies, people who have kids but fall on hard times. You are trying generalize. I am talking about the on purpose crowd,which is big chunk of them

The only "liberal" that even comes close to what you're talking about is MBD. He's the left's answer to the hateful stuff that comes from the right. And most of his stuff is tame compared to the amount of bile that ejects from some of the more "conservative" members here.

My post was dealing with the people who swear they give a damn about black people, but can't count a single black person as a friend or even an acquaintance.

Many more than MBD and you know it. The insulting hate posters go on for pages with several of our posters.

I give a damn about people..

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Dude you bring up Race more than anyone here,,Well maybe with one exception, but as far as he is to one extreme you are to the other. Everything bad that every happens to a black person is racism. Every Black movie should win an academy award.You and Danno both are absolutely obsessed with race.

You're joking right? You bring it up more than I do. You can't help but make a TM reference in almost every thread. If it's about welfare, it's black women. If it's about gun violence, where some white dude shoots up a school, you always reiterate who commits 80% of the crime in your neighborhood.

I've posted several stories that had nothing to do with race. Danno can't make that claim, it's either race, sex, religion, or anti-abortion.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

You're joking right? You bring it up more than I do. You can't help but make a TM reference in almost every thread. If it's about welfare, it's black women. If it's about gun violence, where some white dude shoots up a school, you always reiterate who commits 80% of the crime in your neighborhood.

I've posted several stories that had nothing to do with race. Danno can't make that claim, it's either race, sex, religion, or anti-abortion.

What does TM have to do with race?

[decocker 7,198]

No you can be an ####### at time just like me, but generally speaking you are civil in presenting your outrageous leftist opinions

I have no problem with poor mothers of any race, who struggle and try but need help

I do have a huge problem with those generational lifestyle women, who never have done anything but have babies and live off the Govt.

not outrageous, RADICAL!

there's nothing wrong with having a problem with generational poverty. i have a huge problem with gp. however, there is something wrong with pointing the finger at the victims of generational poverty. i mean think about what you're saying, we have a huge problem with girls who are rarely have anything to aspire to outside of becoming a mother. have you ever read any reasearch as to the reasons so many young girls try to become pregnant in the worst of circumstances? you should, it's really heartbreaking. and they become parents too young and have little/no financial means to survive. so they survive within the structure that is available to them, seriously lacking government welfare.

the woman in the op is not the norm. she is not the face of welfare. but there are quite a few of your peers that would have you believing otherwise. works pretty well imo..

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

not outrageous, RADICAL!

there's nothing wrong with having a problem with generational poverty. i have a huge problem with gp. however, there is something wrong with pointing the finger at the victims of generational poverty. i mean think about what you're saying, we have a huge problem with girls who are rarely have anything to aspire to outside of becoming a mother. have you ever read any reasearch as to the reasons so many young girls try to become pregnant in the worst of circumstances? you should, it's really heartbreaking. and they become parents too young and have little/no financial means to survive. so they survive within the structure that is available to them, seriously lacking government welfare.

the woman in the op is not the norm. she is not the face of welfare. but there are quite a few of your peers that would have you believing otherwise. works pretty well imo..

I don't see them as Victims. I do blame the Govt

[decocker 7,198]

I am talking about the on purpose crowd,which is big chunk of them

and this is what i simply do not believe. not at all.

I don't see them as Victims. I do blame the Govt

children that are born into generational poverty and extremely hazardous living situations aren't victims? or is that they're victims until they reach a certain age? i mean come on..you just said you care about people.