Are there any believers left? Don't say you weren't warned.

[luckytxn 2,265]

It is laughable to try to pin Obama's incompetence on others by now. It is all they have though.

Yes, yes , yes, Obama-like thinking put us in a recession.... the whole Idea that everyone deserves a house .... even those who can't meet standard mortgage requirements.

What I found funny was at one point banks were the bad guy for not giving an equal amount of loans to all groups of people, then when they started disregarding age old standards (thanks to new laws) and handing out loan which these folks then defaulted on they were then accused of being, "predatory lenders." After the market crashed, dragging the economy down.

Marv give up the "Obama inherited a recession" excuse.

Would you rather inherit something at the top of the market or the bottom?

DO you want to buy gold when it drops or is at a spike?

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

It is laughable to try to pin Obama's incompetence on others by now. It is all they have though.

So, you're saying that Obama is responsible for the recession Bush spun us into?

[Danno 1,228]

You hate him and love Putin, we get it. But to so he did nothing is way off, and you know it. What's worse is you keep trying to force the people to like him to hate him. And being "black" has nothing to do with his performance. Why are you so obsessed with him?

Hold on Marv, just because someone sees Obamer as incapable or as a Collectivist does not mean they "hate him"..... do you hate everyone on the Right you disagree with?

Secondly, Obama is the FiRST BLACK PRESIDENT..... we were reminded of that over and over again, why is it when it comes to White folks or white people in general we can speak in a broad context of the good and back (of course mostly bad) but when it come to a minority, the reference to race can only be made when a positive

observation is to be made.

For instance: When asked why don't we have a White History month, we are told all American history is white-history. Okay fair enough, but this history is laden with criticisms. When it comes to Black history, or the mentioning of a Black persons race...... it is only to uplift or highlight in a celebratory way.

My friend, the only thing I ask for is "consistency."

Work on that.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

It is laughable to try to pin Obama's incompetence on others by now. It is all they have though.

That is A

A. Bush's fault . can also be "conjure up any conservative in history that even remotely did anything similar to what is going on today. It makes it ok.

[Novembro 1,763]

You're just jelly because your biceps look like hambones compared to hers.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Whats this "allowed to get" B.S?

They were always allowed to get any plan they wanted.....simply pay for it.

The usual, Danno. Wrong.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

So, you're saying that Obama is responsible for the recession Bush spun us into?

No. Neither is Bush solely responsible for it. There is usually never one direct reason, but multiple factors.

Weak leadership from our Congress and senate for years on both sides of the Aisle. Weak leadership in the Oval office going all the way back many years including the current admin.

My number one would be the greed of mortgage lenders and banks that insisted we loan money that we knew was very likely to result in massive foreclosures if house prices ever dipped..This goes hand in hand with politicians that insisted everyone should be able to buy a home, that includes most Dems and GWB

The truth is both sides pound us like cheap drunk whores , while we fight about which one is worse and should billy be able to marry Bob.

It's all f'ed up and none of us will admit it's all of them and get real change

In 2016 once again we will have a choice between two IVY league D-bags that are bought and paid for just like we did with Obama and Mitt. The same dumbass in a different suit and somehow many of you will think the outcome will be different if one or the other is elected.

[GandD 5,966]

For instance: When asked why don't we have a White History month, we are told all American history is white-history. Okay fair enough, but this history is laden with criticisms. When it comes to Black history, or the mentioning of a Black persons race...... it is only to uplift or highlight in a celebratory way.

My friend, the only thing I ask for is "consistency."

Work on that.

I used to get a little worked up about said inconsistency. Then I realized it didn't really matter in the end. There are always options available.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Hold on Marv, just because someone sees Obamer as incapable or as a Collectivist does not mean they "hate him"..... do you hate everyone on the Right you disagree with?

Secondly, Obama is the FiRST BLACK PRESIDENT..... we were reminded of that over and over again, why is it when it comes to White folks or white people in general we can speak in a broad context of the good and back (of course mostly bad) but when it come to a minority, the reference to race can only be made when a positive

observation is to be made.

For instance: When asked why don't we have a White History month, we are told all American history is white-history. Okay fair enough, but this history is laden with criticisms. When it comes to Black history, or the mentioning of a Black persons race...... it is only to uplift or highlight in a celebratory way.

My friend, the only thing I ask for is "consistency."

Work on that.

I don't hate anyone. Nor do I talk about anyone on the right or left in every single post. I make my own decisions and my own observations. Bush, for his mess ups, isn't Hitler or the Anti-christ. Neither is Obama. Which is why I found it astounding that every single ill that falls on mankind seems to be Obama's fault of Obama's thinking.

As for your last question, it's because black people have been beaten down since the beginning. You spend enough time talking about black people, you should know this.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Didn't OBL get killed under his watch? Or do we credit that to Bush?

Seal Team 6

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

No. Neither is Bush solely responsible for it. There is usually never one direct reason, but multiple factors.

Weak leadership from our Congress and senate for years on both sides of the Aisle. Weak leadership in the Oval office going all the way back many years including the current admin.

My number one would be the greed of mortgage lenders and banks that insisted we loan money that we knew was very likely to result in massive foreclosures if house prices ever dipped..This goes hand in hand with politicians that insisted everyone should be able to buy a home, that includes most Dems and GWB

The truth is both sides pound us like cheap drunk whores , while we fight about which one is worse and should billy be able to marry Bob.

It's all f'ed up and none of us will admit it's all of them and get real change

In 2016 once again we will have a choice between two IVY league D-bags that are bought and paid for just like we did with Obama and Mitt. The same dumbass in a different suit and somehow many of you will think the outcome will be different if one or the other is elected.

I'll give you that. Because it's true. Yet, if this is true, then the same can be said for Obama.

Once the partisan rage passes, you'll see that both side have issues.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Wait, aren't gay people allowed to serve in the military freely because of Obama? Didn't the DREAM act happen because of Obama? DIdn't he create new jobs?

Yes. The sissification of America |Olé!

So, does that mean he actually did some things positive? I see. And something tells me folks who didn't have healthcare before aren't complaining...

Only those that lost their healthcare, had their rates raised, had their hours cut, or didn't get hired, because of Obamacare.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Seal Team 6

Actually I applaud Obama for having the balls to give the order. It irritates me when conservatives try to downplay that,, because rest assured had it failed, he would have been assigned full blame and been a one term president.

Yes seal team six deserves props also.But as CIC you have to applaud him

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

2011? That's not only old news it's also irrelevant to the issue at hand. The commitment was to cut the deficit in half by the end of term one. That commitment was more than met as I have demonstrated using the relevant numbers. Obama's first term did not end in FY 2011 and it did not end in FY 2012. It ended in FY 2013.

And?

Why are folks always excusing the "different" kid?

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I used to get a little worked up about said inconsistency. Then I realized it didn't really matter in the end. There are always options available.

I'll say this; I think we should have American History, which includes everyone. Not just one race.