Are there any believers left? Don't say you weren't warned.

[GandD 5,966]

But the folks who "had" health-care and lost it, are complaining ...thanks to the first Black president (as they keep reminding us).

Those who still have it are paying more... and will keep paying more.

Go team Obama!!!

Not looking it up on my phone, so anyone know the percentage of people that "lost" (even though they were allowed to get a different plan) coverage vs people that were allowed to get a plan after the mandate went live? To my knowledge, no person in america was left with zero option for coverage.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

This man has been a disaster as POTUS. I was positive that no one could screw us up more than Bush. I was wrong. We have the most inept, weak, leader probably ever to hold that office. The ultimate empty suit.

That is not fair. You forgetting Georgias biggest embarrassment

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Not looking it up on my phone, so anyone know the percentage of people that "lost" (even though they were allowed to get a different plan) coverage vs people that were allowed to get a plan after the mandate went live? To my knowledge, no person in america was left with zero option for coverage.

I got a beyond great policy for my wife dirt cheap and i got free VA

To hell with everybody else. It's my right to get free stuff

See I am becoming a liberal

[Danno 1,228]

Not looking it up on my phone, so anyone know the percentage of people that "lost" (even though they were allowed to get a different plan) coverage vs people that were allowed to get a plan after the mandate went live? To my knowledge, no person in america was left with zero option for coverage.

Whats this "allowed to get" B.S?

They were always allowed to get any plan they wanted.....simply pay for it. Which is right back where they are at now, though now they MUST buy.

And my friend lets not forget, every person who bellied up to the bar and got "affordable health-care" might have got a deal.... but everyone else is paying the difference.... it's not like Barry, made the system do more for less.... nnnn no, in fact it is going up in price and all of these free-bees are going on the national VISA CARD, with interest (compounding).

It's a shell game over "who is paying" for the now surging cost of Healthcare.

And it is going to keep going up if fo no other reason than for the increase of services the public will demand.

You can't cover nose jobs, orthodontics and weight loss programs and not watch the budget soar.

You can't have the wits of the Gov't buerocrats matched against thousands of corporations and millions of people and not get out-foxed every time.

To get a nibble, think about the circles defense contractors run around the Gov't.

Edited January 16, 2014 by Danno

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

more illegals are now ready to vote

No knowledge of the actual policy, I see. As expected. Bravo!

... lets not overplay the few jobs being created, they are not even keeping up with the population growth.

It's the best job creation record thus far this century, Danno.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

That he was was going to be a disaster, but to be honest, I thought by now the natural forces of the market would have spun us into a revitalized economy....

this long term sluggishness is unprecedented.

Had he just got out of the way.....

We would have continued the free fall for some more. Yeah, that would have been smart. You seem to have forgotten the jobless recovery from the 2001 recession and the double dip in 2003. Talk about a long slog.

[Danno 1,228]

No knowledge of the actual policy, I see. As expected. Bravo!

It's the best job creation record thus far this century, Danno.

What is it about Obama that makes you get on here and defend him with so much B.S?

WHo are you kidding?

Yeah things are so dynamic that people just didn't have time to even Christmas shop this year.

All these folks collecting food stamps are actually working and just can't get a day off to cancel the food stamps.. right?

You talk about the

"haves and the have nots".... apparently you don't consider a job as one of those details people need to have in their life.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

What is it about Obama that makes you get on here and defend him with so much B.S?

WHo are you kidding?

I am not kidding anyone. I am pointing out the simple fact that there's no period in this century where job creation was a s solid as it has been over the last three plus years. Net private sector job creation exceeds what was achieved over that period by the previous administration by a million jobs. That's not BS, that's the real world, Danno. You should try and familiarize yourself with it sometime.

[Danno 1,228]

I am not kidding anyone. I am pointing out the simple fact that there's no period in this century where job creation was a s solid as it has been over the last three plus years. Net private sector job creation exceeds what was achieved over that period by the previous administration by a million jobs. That's not BS, that's the real world, Danno. You should try and familiarize yourself with it sometime.

Not that anyone would question your assertions, but for the unbelievers out there, why not post some facts.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Not that anyone would question your assertions, but for the unbelievers out there, why not post some facts.

I did that extensively in a couple of threads lately. I recommend bls.gov - you can find all the data and facts right there.

[luckytxn 2,264]

You know you may be right. I lived through Carter and it was pretty bad. At the least Obama got Bin Laden.

It is just so embarrassing what Obama has shown himself to be and he is a lame duck right now.I think he will surpass Carter before it all done with.

That is not fair. You forgetting Georgias biggest embarrassment

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

This man has been a disaster as POTUS. I was positive that no one could screw us up more than Bush. I was wrong. We have the most inept, weak, leader probably ever to hold that office. The ultimate empty suit.

DId Obama put us into a recession, or is he trying to pull us out of one? I know your mind is made up, but be clear on what you're so mad about, because the rest sounds like partisan B.S.

I give him a little credit for that, but Jeez Marv lets not carry on like Obama carried out the killing, he simply suppressed that inner Puzz and gave it a "go ahead."

You hate him and love Putin, we get it. But to so he did nothing is way off, and you know it. What's worse is you keep trying to force the people to like him to hate him. And being "black" has nothing to do with his performance. Why are you so obsessed with him?

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

DId Obama put us into a recession, or is he trying to pull us out of one? I know your mind is made up, but be clear on what you're so mad about, because the rest sounds like partisan B.S.

You hate him and love Putin, we get it. But to say he did nothing is way off, and you know it. What's worse is you keep trying to force the people that like him to hate him. And being "black" has nothing to do with his performance. Why are you so obsessed with him?

[Danno 1,228]

DId Obama put us into a recession, or is he trying to pull us out of one? I know your mind is made up, but be clear on what you're so mad about, because the rest sounds like partisan B.S.

You hate him and love Putin, we get it. But to so he did nothing is way off, and you know it. What's worse is you keep trying to force the people to like him to hate him. And being "black" has nothing to do with his performance. Why are you so obsessed with him?

Yes, yes , yes, Obama-like thinking put us in a recession.... the whole Idea that everyone deserves a house .... even those who can't meet standard mortgage requirements.

What I found funny was at one point banks were the bad guy for not giving an equal amount of loans to all groups of people, then when they started disregarding age old standards (thanks to new laws) and handing out loan which these folks then defaulted on they were then accused of being, "predatory lenders." After the market crashed, dragging the economy down.

Marv give up the "Obama inherited a recession" excuse.

Would you rather inherit something at the top of the market or the bottom?

DO you want to buy gold when it drops or is at a spike?

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Yes, yes , yes, Obama-like thinking put us in a recession.... the whole Idea that everyone deserves a house .... even those who can't meet standard mortgage requirements.

What I found funny was at one point banks were the bad guy for not giving an equal amount of loans to all groups of people, then when they started disregarding age old standards (thanks to new laws) and handing out loan which these folks then defaulted on they were then accused of being, "predatory lenders." After the market crashed, dragging the economy down.

Marv give up the "Obama inherited a recession" excuse.

Would you rather inherit something at the top of the market or the bottom?

DO you want to buy gold when it drops or is at a spike?

But did he inherit a recession? Who put US in the recession? Not Obama, Bush did. You can keep spinning it the way you like, but that's a fact. You sound silly blaming him for something the previous POTUS is responsible for.