K1 and Childfree

[Phred 5]

Developed countries in the East are good with Childfree people, but the mostly Christian West struggles with it.

Americans are nasty to Childfree people, and that is one reason I left. I only speak of it openly on the net. In real life a am stoic about it.

The embassy does not know I had a vasectomy at 21. They only know that I was married. They know that say I had no children with my former spouse, but I cannot prove it. Will they give me a hassle, and call me a liar? A lot of Americans evidently can not wrap thief heads around the fact that it is possible to be 48 and not have children.

I only ask because the US military was not nice about it. They asked me to disclose my surgeries, so they knew I had a vasectomy. The problem was with the records auditor who said I was a liar, and I had better tell him the truth about my "dependants". He did not believe that I could get a vasectomy without children. I was sent to a srink over it. I got angry and sarcastic. Things did not go well in the military starting with that incident.

Oh, my fiancé and I are both 48. We are both Buddhist. We are not obligated by our fath to be parents.

Edited January 12, 2014 by Phred

[ricnally 258]

I don't understand why you think you'd have a problem.

[Phred 5]

I don't understand why you think you'd have a problem.

Most Americans have two children by 25. They frequently look at you like a "suspect" if you have no children by 40.

[Lainie B 465]

Most Americans have two children by 25. They frequently look at you like a "suspect" if you have no children by 40.

I have never heard of or experienced such a thing. And I am significantly over 25 and have no kids.

[lost_at_sea 995]

Why would they call you a liar?

Not having children at 48 is a non-issue for obtaining a visa. They're not going to doubt you, unless you have some reason why they should that you did not mention in your post.

I have never heard of or experienced such a thing. And I am significantly over 25 and have no kids.

+1 Do not find it to be an issue.

Edited January 12, 2014 by lost_at_sea

[KayDeeCee 4,893]

There is no requirement to have children in order to get a K-1 visa. A non-issue for that. It sounds more like a rant about the military and society as a whole, rather than something having to do with obtaining a K-1.

[KayDeeCee 4,893]

I have never heard of or experienced such a thing. And I am significantly over 25 and have no kids.

I have friends that chose to remain childless. I am not sure what anyone would 'suspect' them of, other than not having children. At least one of my friends would cheer that she was guilty and proud of that.

[baron555 934]

Most Americans have two children by 25. They frequently look at you like a "suspect" if you have no children by 40.

No they don't.

[Phred 5]

If you grew up in the USA (more specifically the South) and you were Childfree then you would know what I am talking about.

I know there is no requirement to have or want children to get a K1. I was reading other threads. I was surprised at how easily the embassies can discount someones relationship as "not genuine" over something stupid. It brought back a memory..... The short version: { I was married in the millitary. The millitary autior at the MEPS center made an incorrect assumption that went something like this; "It is impossible for a man to get a vasectomy if he has no children". He accused me of being a liar. He decided that I was unwilling to disclose "my children" in an attempt to "evade child support". He futher stated that my marrage was "probubly a lie". Later when I was called in for a formal investigation the JAG set me up with a pretty good lawyer. The year was 1989.}

I guess I am having a bit of a "flashback" from a day I was accused of "false enlistment". I was eventually cleared of all charges and went on with my tour in Kuwait.

[jan22 3,056]

Developed countries in the East are good with Childfree people, but the mostly Christian West struggles with it.

Americans are nasty to Childfree people, and that is one reason I left. I only speak of it openly on the net. In real life a am stoic about it.

The embassy does not know I had a vasectomy at 21. They only know that I was married. They know that say I had no children with my former spouse, but I cannot prove it. Will they give me a hassle, and call me a liar? A lot of Americans evidently can not wrap thief heads around the fact that it is possible to be 48 and not have children.

I only ask because the US military was not nice about it. They asked me to disclose my surgeries, so they knew I had a vasectomy. The problem was with the records auditor who said I was a liar, and I had better tell him the truth about my "dependants". He did not believe that I could get a vasectomy without children. I was sent to a srink over it. I got angry and sarcastic. Things did not go well in the military starting with that incident.

Oh, my fiancé and I are both 48. We are both Buddhist. We are not obligated by our fath to be parents.

So, if you left the U.S. because of this, that implies you are not living in the U.S. right now. You will, of course, as part of the K-1 process need to prove a U.S. domicile and/or the clear intent to establish one. That is the only reason I can see any of your concerns coming up -- and you would have to raise the issue directly, since I'm sure that wouldn't be the first thing a visa officer would think about as a reason not to be living in the U.S. If the issue is raised -- and you respond as strongly as you did here -- they might question what your true intent is, since it doesn't sound like you want to live in the U.S. (not saying that's true -- just saying how it sounds from what you wrote here).

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Developed countries in the East are good with Childfree people, but the mostly Christian West struggles with it.

Americans are nasty to Childfree people, and that is one reason I left. I only speak of it openly on the net. In real life a am stoic about it.

The embassy does not know I had a vasectomy at 21. They only know that I was married. They know that say I had no children with my former spouse, but I cannot prove it. Will they give me a hassle, and call me a liar? A lot of Americans evidently can not wrap thief heads around the fact that it is possible to be 48 and not have children.

I only ask because the US military was not nice about it. They asked me to disclose my surgeries, so they knew I had a vasectomy. The problem was with the records auditor who said I was a liar, and I had better tell him the truth about my "dependants". He did not believe that I could get a vasectomy without children. I was sent to a srink over it. I got angry and sarcastic. Things did not go well in the military starting with that incident.

Oh, my fiancé and I are both 48. We are both Buddhist. We are not obligated by our fath to be parents.

What exactly is the problem? You don't have children. So what? You will not be required to prove you do not have children (there will be none listed on your tax returns)

The US consulate could not possibly care less, neither does USCIS

Find something else to worry about.

[Phred 5]

So, if you left the U.S. because of this, that implies you are not living in the U.S. right now. You will, of course, as part of the K-1 process need to prove a U.S. domicile and/or the clear intent to establish one. That is the only reason I can see any of your concerns coming up -- and you would have to raise the issue directly, since I'm sure that wouldn't be the first thing a visa officer would think about as a reason not to be living in the U.S. If the issue is raised -- and you respond as strongly as you did here -- they might question what your true intent is, since it doesn't sound like you want to live in the U.S. (not saying that's true -- just saying how it sounds from what you wrote here).

You are correct. I have NO plan to live in the USA. We made that clear in the i129F that was approved. We have a plan to cover ourselves on that one. We have rehursed it. It hopefully will go like this:

Inverviewer: "Your pertitioner has applied for a K1. You know the assumption is that you will be staying in the USA. Why did you not just apply for a B2 tourist visa?"

Khin: "I want my sister and his auntie Marcy to be present. It is illegal to get married on a B2 visa. We want to marry and have a honeymoon in California. It is not illegal to leave the USA after the wedding. We do not want to break any laws".

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

If you grew up in the USA (more specifically the South) and you were Childfree then you would know what I am talking about.

I know there is no requirement to have or want children to get a K1. I was reading other threads. I was surprised at how easily the embassies can discount someones relationship as "not genuine" over something stupid. It brought back a memory..... The short version: { I was married in the millitary. The millitary autior at the MEPS center made an incorrect assumption that went something like this; "It is impossible for a man to get a vasectomy if he has no children". He accused me of being a liar. He decided that I was unwilling to disclose "my children" in an attempt to "evade child support". He futher stated that my marrage was "probubly a lie". Later when I was called in for a formal investigation the JAG set me up with a pretty good lawyer. The year was 1989.}

I guess I am having a bit of a "flashback" from a day I was accused of "false enlistment". I was eventually cleared of all charges and went on with my tour in Kuwait.

This is the internet. The price of admission is a computer. Treat answers accordingly. You are applying for a FIANCEE visa, In which consulate are you required to have children to qualify for a fiancee visa? Anyone saying so is wrong or in denial of other reasons they were rejected. You should also not extrapolate threads which say "I was denied because I am a 58 year old woman wanting to marry a 26 year old man from Morroco and they say our love is not genuine because I cannot have children" Without all the details...it does not apply to you.

Idiots are all around us, they walk among us and many of them work for government agencies...wait until you apply for the SSN or a drivers license if you don't believe me. Where I am from (the USA) any man over 18 with the necessary payment can get a vasectomy and judging from the number of clinics around here, a lot of men are.

I am taking a wild guess that there were other circumstances you aren't telling us but hey, this is an immigration site. Having a vasectomy does not affect your abiltiy to get a K-1. Period. No further discussion.

As noted above not living in the USA WILL affect the ability to get a K-1 UNLESS you are active duty military...I'm guessing you are not.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

You are correct. I have NO plan to live in the USA. We made that clear in the i129F that was approved. We have a plan to cover ourselves on that one. We have rehursed it. It hopefully will go like this:

Inverviewer: "Your pertitioner has applied for a K1. You know the assumption is that you will be staying in the USA. Why did you not just apply for a B2 tourist visa?"

Khin: "I want my sister and his auntie Marcy to be present. It is illegal to get married on a B2 visa. We want to marry and have a honeymoon in California. It is not illegal to leave the USA after the wedding. We do not want to break any laws".

Your petition will be denied. If not the visa will be denied.

If you are not going to live here there is no need for a path to a green card/citizenship.

It is NOT illegal to get married/honeymoon on a B2 visa. NOT ILLEGAL. It is illegal to enter with a B2 visa with the INTENT to remain in the US. Get B2, get married, get out. No issues. The whole "destination wedding" industry counts on it. You think all those Japanese people getting married in Hawaii have fiancee visas? What about all the foreigners getting married in Las Vegas, the Poconos, even right here n Vermont. There are more Canadians gettinf married at "the Inn at Shelburne Farns" than Americans! Mostly because withn 2 hours drive Canadians outnumber us 6 ro 1.

What you really need to do is study the rules about visas and stop basing decisions on bad information

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

You are correct. I have NO plan to live in the USA. We made that clear in the i129F that was approved. We have a plan to cover ourselves on that one. We have rehursed it. It hopefully will go like this:

Inverviewer: "Your pertitioner has applied for a K1. You know the assumption is that you will be staying in the USA. Why did you not just apply for a B2 tourist visa?"

Khin: "I want my sister and his auntie Marcy to be present. It is illegal to get married on a B2 visa. We want to marry and have a honeymoon in California. It is not illegal to leave the USA after the wedding. We do not want to break any laws".

And the interviewer is not obligated to tutor you in the rules of visas. You applied for the WRONG visa. Denied. Not his fault and not his job to inform you what visa TO apply for. .

Apply for a B2, show adequate ties to her home country (such as YOU live there) Get the B2, come and get married have your honeymoon in CA and leave. Thank goodness the USA does not turn away the billions of foreign dollars we make every year as a honeymoon destination!

An I-129 is not a visa and USCIS does not issue visas. USCIS should have denied the petition and kept your fee for not reading the rules first, but they approved it. So what? It does not obligate anyone to issue a visa.

If they do not issue the visa it will be because you do not show sufficient ties to the country. Not their problem. If denied, plan on an alternate place for the wedding/honeymoon.

Edited January 12, 2014 by Gary and Alla