Woman raped in her own garage

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Dear god, really? How about auto insurance? I've never had an accident, so by your "non-liberal logic" I shouldn't need it. and ditto for homeowners insurance, I guess? There you go folks, only purchase insurance if you are sure you'll need it, otherwise, somebody else will be benefiting at your expense.

Wrong.

1. The law only requires you buy auto insurance to cover repairs to OTHER people's property caused by YOUR mistakes (Liability and property damage) and does not apply to autos operated on private property. If you want to operate YOUR auto on OUR roads then you need to protect US from YOU.

2. As for collision insurance, that is between you and your financer, if any. It is not a LAW. You are not required BY LAW to buy auto insurance to cover YOURSELF.

3. Auto insurance does not cover normal wear and tear, oil changes, tire replacement, brake jobs, or car washes.

4. You have never had an accident so you have lower rates because you are a lower risk.. Under Obamacare everyone has the same rates regardless of risk. I am old, have diabetes and heart disease and would pay the same amount as my son. Brilliant. And he is supposed to write a check for that? Would YOU like it if your auto rates tripled and your deductible doubled so that someone who has had accidents, tickets and DUIs could have the same "affordable rate" as YOU? That is what Obamacare does to health insurance.

5. Homeowners insurance? You are not required BY LAW to have homeowners insurance, Your financing company (if any) may require it. Not a LAW.

Obamacare sucks and will fail because it cannot work. The people who demanded it will not buy it and the insurers will bail out. It is a redistribution of wealth. making one group pay for another...with one big difference. Unlike welfare and other redistribution programs, this one requires people actually write a check each month and KNOW what the cost is. Won't work. The mandates have been delayed past the November elections and will not be re-instated

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

It's amazing how people here really thing carrying guns lowers crime rate. AND, that somehow carrying a gun makes you immune to ANY type of attack.

[Póg mo 1,749]

Wrong.

1. The law only requires you buy auto insurance to cover repairs to OTHER people's property caused by YOUR mistakes (Liability and property damage) and does not apply to autos operated on private property. If you want to operate YOUR auto on OUR roads then you need to protect US from YOU.

2. As for collision insurance, that is between you and your financer, if any. It is not a LAW. You are not required BY LAW to buy auto insurance to cover YOURSELF.

3. Auto insurance does not cover normal wear and tear, oil changes, tire replacement, brake jobs, or car washes.

4. You have never had an accident so you have lower rates because you are a lower risk.. Under Obamacare everyone has the same rates regardless of risk. I am old, have diabetes and heart disease and would pay the same amount as my son. Brilliant. And he is supposed to write a check for that? Would YOU like it if your auto rates tripled and your deductible doubled so that someone who has had accidents, tickets and DUIs could have the same "affordable rate" as YOU? That is what Obamacare does to health insurance.

5. Homeowners insurance? You are not required BY LAW to have homeowners insurance, Your financing company (if any) may require it. Not a LAW.

Obamacare sucks and will fail because it cannot work. The people who demanded it will not buy it and the insurers will bail out. It is a redistribution of wealth. making one group pay for another...with one big difference. Unlike welfare and other redistribution programs, this one requires people actually write a check each month and KNOW what the cost is. Won't work. The mandates have been delayed past the November elections and will not be re-instated

When you come down off your high horse, you might perhaps reread what I wrote. I said nothing about the law requiring anything. I attempted to point out how asinine it was to believe that because you have never been sick, you needn't carry health insurance.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

What if this so called "real woman" can't get to her rifle in time and her attacker uses it on her? Who is going to save her then?

Another person with a gun. Look, you can carry your own gun or call someone that has a gun when you think you need one. I choose to carry my own, you choose to call someone with a gun. I am in favor of allowing you that CHOICE, I do not choose it for myself.

If any of the anti-gun nonsense were true...

1. At least ONE of the 50 states with concealed carry would have repealed their laws

2. Vermont would have the highest crime in the country and we would have women getting their guns taken from them, being raped and then being shot with their own guns...in their own garage...every day. Not happening. Hmmmm.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

When you come down off your high horse, you might perhaps reread what I wrote. I said nothing about the law requiring anything. I attempted to point out how asinine it was to believe that because you have never been sick, you needn't carry health insurance.

It is equally asinine to suggest because you have never been attacked or assaulted or raped that you do not need a gun. The fact is that none of us know when we are going to need health insurance...or a spare tire...or a gun. ANY of us that are threatened are going to rely on a GUN to save us. ALL of us. YOU and me. YOU will call someone else to bring one, mine will be there already. That is the ONLY difference.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

It's amazing how people here really thing carrying guns lowers crime rate. AND, that somehow carrying a gun makes you immune to ANY type of attack.

Concealed carry has reduced crime in every jurisdiction it has been implemented in.

Carrying a gun does not make anyone immune to anything. If anyone said that, they are wrong but I never saw anyone say that.. Perhaps you will link to it. I am guessing no.

[lostinblue 1,989]

It's amazing how people here really thing carrying guns lowers crime rate. AND, that somehow carrying a gun makes you immune to ANY type of attack.

If more citizens were armed, criminals would think twice about attacking them, Detroit Police Chief James Craig

Edited January 12, 2014 by lostinblue

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

We deserve a high crime rate if we allow our elected officials to disarm us. Women are protected when they have a CHOICE to carry a gun. They do not have to carry a gun, they only need to have the choice. I am pro-choice, you are not

The easier it is for a woman to excerise that choice, whether she does or not, the safer she is.

I have no idea if more women in Vermont carry guns than women in Texas carry guns. The difference is that ALL women in Vermont have the choice without having to ask government permission...and none of them get raped in their own garage and none of them have their guns taken from them and used against them and none of them have to shoot rapists.

The problem is you think carrying a gun is the solution to everything, I don't.

About as moronic as forcing health insurance on perfectly healthy people. Or buying lottery tickets, knowing you'll most likely never win. Someone else will, though.

No mate. Just no.

[lostinblue 1,989]

The problem is you think carrying a gun is the solution to everything, I don't.

No mate. Just no.

You cannot be trusted to carry one Your government made that choice for you along with a pocket knife that i carried to school when I was 6 years old.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Concealed carry has reduced crime in every jurisdiction it has been implemented in.

Carrying a gun does not make anyone immune to anything. If anyone said that, they are wrong but I never saw anyone say that.. Perhaps you will link to it. I am guessing no.

I guess you've never been to places that have a high crime rate. Because here, they kill cops. And the cops have more guns than the average civilian. There are children being shot in their car seats, Gary. How do you protect them?

If more citizens were armed, criminals would think twice about attacking them, Detroit Police Chief James Craig

My ITCM is from Detroit. I asked him about this, he just laughed. Folks with guns in those places lead to shootouts, not less crime. Gang members, violent people don't care if you're armed or not. A gun isn't going to deter them. It's a mentality that's been infecting poor communities for decades.

[Póg mo 1,749]

It is equally asinine to suggest because you have never been attacked or assaulted or raped that you do not need a gun. The fact is that none of us know when we are going to need health insurance...or a spare tire...or a gun. ANY of us that are threatened are going to rely on a GUN to save us. ALL of us. YOU and me. YOU will call someone else to bring one, mine will be there already. That is the ONLY difference.

All I am saying is that guns can very easily be turned on their owners and without the proper care or training they can actually make the situation much, much worse. Yes it is true. What can start out a simply purse snatching can easily escalate into somebody being shot dead. I personally don't feel that would like to see somebody die over a over a couple of lousy dollars. A couple of years back I met somebody who just bought themselves a new play station console and he told me how he would kill anybody anybody who tried to take it from him, and I just couldn't help thinking how stupid and short sighted that person was if he thinks a person's life is worth less than crappy game console.

[lostinblue 1,989]

I guess you've never been to places that have a high crime rate. Because here, they kill cops. And the cops have more guns than the average civilian. There are children being shot in their car seats, Gary. How do you protect them?

My ITCM is from Detroit. I asked him about this, he just laughed. Folks with guns in those places lead to shootouts, not less crime. Gang members, violent people don't care if you're armed or not. A gun isn't going to deter them. It's a mentality that's been infecting poor communities for decades.

So you know more than the top police officer in Detroit....WOW....

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

So you know more than the top police officer in Detroit....WOW....

Yeah, then tell me something, if arming everyone is the answer, why hasn't it happened yet? Why are places like Chicago, Detroit, and St. Louis still not letting everyone get guns? You have my attention.

[Operator 1,927]

http://news.yahoo.com/video/woman-raped-her-own-garage-223252581.html

She was going to buy paper towels and didn't think she needed to carry her gun

Texas has a shall issue permit system and much higher crime than Vermont where any woman can carry a gun...even Canadians. The rapist was pretty safe in assuming she wouldn't have a gun in Texas, mathmatical odds are in his favor.

Concealed carry reduces crime, it reduces crime most for women and minorities and the more people allowed to carry, the greater the reduction in crime...a trend that has followed in ALL 50 states. Texas needs to scrap its CC license and allow anyone to carry. This woman would not have been raped if that were the law.

Concealed carry has reduced crime in every jurisdiction it has been implemented in.

Carrying a gun does not make anyone immune to anything. If anyone said that, they are wrong but I never saw anyone say that.. Perhaps you will link to it. I am guessing no.

Maybe I'm slow but it seems that's exactly what you said in your first post.

Edited January 13, 2014 by Operator

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

What if this so called "real woman" can't get to her rifle in time and her attacker uses it on her? Who is going to save her then?

God. Well, he's either going to save her or give her a baby. Or both if he's in a good mood.