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I haven't flown in awhile, I am amazed how the airline industry manage to reduce the weight requirement, without much of a cry out by the public, now the traveler are facing with overweight issue, and the airlines are the only winners, WIN WIN

50lbs and Over

Kazooon you are charged $25 up to 65lbs, over that it's over $50

I know they have done it for Domestic flight, it wasn't fair but i would say ok, BUT

for INTERNATIONAL FLIGHT

50lbs limit is a RIP OFF

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Yea I had to pay the extra $25 .. I heard it goes up quickly after that...Someone said they wanted $150 for their over weight bag.. and they just left it.. LOL

I haven't flown in awhile, I am amazed how the airline industry manage to reduce the weight requirement, without much of a cry out by the public, now the traveler are facing with overweight issue, and the airlines are the only winners, WIN WIN

50lbs and Over

Kazooon you are charged $25 up to 65lbs, over that it's over $50

I know they have done it for Domestic flight, it wasn't fair but i would say ok, BUT

for INTERNATIONAL FLIGHT

50lbs limit is a RIP OFF

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I haven't flown in awhile, I am amazed how the airline industry manage to reduce the weight requirement, without much of a cry out by the public, now the traveler are facing with overweight issue, and the airlines are the only winners, WIN WIN

50lbs and Over

Kazooon you are charged $25 up to 65lbs, over that it's over $50

I know they have done it for Domestic flight, it wasn't fair but i would say ok, BUT

for INTERNATIONAL FLIGHT

50lbs limit is a RIP OFF

It does not matter whether it is a domestic flight or an international flight, all aircraft have a maximum weight they can carry. If you only knew how many bags airlines deliver on a daily basis because they cannot carry all the passengers and there bags due to weight you would understand why this is a cost they need to control. It is something they allowed to get out of control and now they are trying to reign it back in. Does not mean I like it but it is a fact.....

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If that hold true, they wouldnt be charging people for it, but tell you to remove those stuff to fit within the 50 lbs limit, Cost control

Hmm Let me see, no more food, I forgot now you have to pay for it, I guess in a few years they'll make us pay even for water, lousy service, and now paying more for less service, I guess we just got use to get the service that we paid for. If you don't travel or have family overseas you want to bring some gift it's fine, othwise good riddance.

I haven't flown in awhile, I am amazed how the airline industry manage to reduce the weight requirement, without much of a cry out by the public, now the traveler are facing with overweight issue, and the airlines are the only winners, WIN WIN

50lbs and Over

Kazooon you are charged $25 up to 65lbs, over that it's over $50

I know they have done it for Domestic flight, it wasn't fair but i would say ok, BUT

for INTERNATIONAL FLIGHT

50lbs limit is a RIP OFF

It does not matter whether it is a domestic flight or an international flight, all aircraft have a maximum weight they can carry. If you only knew how many bags airlines deliver on a daily basis because they cannot carry all the passengers and there bags due to weight you would understand why this is a cost they need to control. It is something they allowed to get out of control and now they are trying to reign it back in. Does not mean I like it but it is a fact.....

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for those complaining about 50lb bag weight limitations. try loading your own bag under the belly of the plane. basicly you have someones funky bag weighting 50lbs < of dirty socks and chit > you get on your knees and try load it on the plane. for those of you that are not convinced this job is HARD as hell... try getting on your knees and attempt to lift your bag- above your head. - still not convinced its not heavy as hell do that for about 15 mins .. then come back tell me about how its not fair about the weight limitiations. rember there is a poor soul lifting your smelly bag and perhaps they are in the rain. Hats off to the airlines that CHARGE ya!!!

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If that hold true, they wouldnt be charging people for it, but tell you to remove those stuff to fit within the 50 lbs limit, Cost control

Not completely true, If the limit is 70lbs then 80% of the people show up with 70lbs bags. If the limit is 50lbs then 80% of the people show up with 50lbs bags. So they succeeded in an overall weigh reduction in 80% of the situations.

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An airplane can only carry so much weight for its design or how much fuel it can carry. Just like a car, the more weight there is in a plane, the worse its fuel economy is. Do you really want to run out of fuel 100 miles from your destination because Mabel has 200 pounds of luggage? Also, the more cargo they carry, the fewer people they can carry. Passengers give them money, cargo does not. (3) 50 pound bags = an average passenger. I don't have a problem paying the overweight fee.

You know those flights where people get "bumped"? It's probably because too many people brought overweight bags with them.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. Do you know what they are mostly? Bastards. ####### coated bastards with ####### filling. But I don't find them half as annoying as I find naive bobble-headed optimists who walk around vomiting sunshine.
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You know those flights where people get "bumped"? It's probably because too many people brought overweight bags with them.
Actually, it is because too many booked passengers actually showed up. Airlines oversell their flights and have done so for ages. Statistically, a certain percentage of travellers doesn't show up for flights. Instead of elaving empty seats, airlines decided it would be better to oversell their flights and deal with the occasional "bumping" should too many ticketed travellers actually show up. The bumping has nothing to do with luggage. Absolutely nothing.
Passengers give them money, cargo does not.
That's not accurate either. Most passenger planes, especially the long haul one's, carry more than passengers and their luggage. They also carry cargo for a fee. The less capacity the airlines allocate to passenger cargo, the more they can sell to other customers. This is the reason why the weight limits have been dropped: to allow the airlines to generate more revenue from cargo on passenger flights.
Do you really want to run out of fuel 100 miles from your destination because Mabel has 200 pounds of luggage?
Now this is just plain silly. Airlines haven't run out of fuel when the weight restrictions were at 70lbs per piece. They're not actually hauling less weight these days either. They're just hauling different weight. Extra paying weight.

The question is this: Do you want to pay higher fares for your ticket so the next passenger can carry 140lbs of stuff with them or do you prefer to pay a lower fare and have those with heavy bags pay to get those carried along? Me, I prefer the latter. I actually would like passenger and cargo fees broken into seperate charges. That way, the less ####### I haul along, the less I pay. Want your 200lbs of stuff on the plane? Better break out your wallet 'cause I sure don't care to pay for it. :no:

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Seriously..... one travel equivalent to VJ is Flyertalk. They can clarify any points needing clarification.

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Actually, it is because too many booked passengers actually showed up. Airlines oversell their flights and have done so for ages. Statistically, a certain percentage of travellers doesn't show up for flights. Instead of elaving empty seats, airlines decided it would be better to oversell their flights and deal with the occasional "bumping" should too many ticketed travellers actually show up. The bumping has nothing to do with luggage. Absolutely nothing.

Wrong!! I was in airline operations for ten years and I can tell you weight is a problem. I will admit that overselling is a contributing factor. However, many passengers are bumped and aircraft depart with empty seats because they have too much weight in the cargo hold.

Case in point.... I was leaving Buenos Aires one day and when I arrived at the counter I was told the aircraft was weight restricted (as an airline employee, gate agents share a lot more info with you) and that they would be asking for volunteers. There were 30 of us on the standby list. They managed to get half of the standby's on the aircraft. One of my companions I was traveling with got on the aircraft. When I finally got back to the states a couple of days later, he told me that there were at least 15 seats open on the plane. We did not get on because of weight, period! An aircraft has a maximum take of weight (MTOW) and it is a summation of the empty weight of the aircraft + passenger weight + cargo weight + fuel. When the sum exceeds MTOW something has to give. They will not compromise on fuel and the base weight of the aircraft is what it is. So it ends up being passengers or cargo or some combination of the two.

In the past, airlines would accomodate passengers at any cost putting baggage at risk. That is not necessarily the philosophy anymore as they try to match as best they can and will leave a passenger and his bag behind rather than accomodate you without your bag.

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Check with your airline. The limits differ from airline to airline.

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Actually, it is because too many booked passengers actually showed up. Airlines oversell their flights and have done so for ages. Statistically, a certain percentage of travellers doesn't show up for flights. Instead of elaving empty seats, airlines decided it would be better to oversell their flights and deal with the occasional "bumping" should too many ticketed travellers actually show up. The bumping has nothing to do with luggage. Absolutely nothing.
Wrong!! I was in airline operations for ten years and I can tell you weight is a problem. I will admit that overselling is a contributing factor. However, many passengers are bumped and aircraft depart with empty seats because they have too much weight in the cargo hold.

Case in point.... I was leaving Buenos Aires one day and when I arrived at the counter I was told the aircraft was weight restricted (as an airline employee, gate agents share a lot more info with you) and that they would be asking for volunteers. There were 30 of us on the standby list. They managed to get half of the standby's on the aircraft. One of my companions I was traveling with got on the aircraft. When I finally got back to the states a couple of days later, he told me that there were at least 15 seats open on the plane. We did not get on because of weight, period! An aircraft has a maximum take of weight (MTOW) and it is a summation of the empty weight of the aircraft + passenger weight + cargo weight + fuel. When the sum exceeds MTOW something has to give. They will not compromise on fuel and the base weight of the aircraft is what it is. So it ends up being passengers or cargo or some combination of the two.

In the past, airlines would accomodate passengers at any cost putting baggage at risk. That is not necessarily the philosophy anymore as they try to match as best they can and will leave a passenger and his bag behind rather than accomodate you without your bag.

You are going to sit there and tell me that a plane is going to go over it's weight limit solely from passengers and their luggage? I don't think so. It may well with passengers and cargo. Yet, cargo on a passenger plane, with the exception of commuter planes perhaps, does not equal passenger's luggage. Cargo equals passenger's luggage plus cargo carried for fee. As the airlines scramble for more revenue, they simply increase their cargo for fee load and hence need to decrease the passenger luggage as there obviously are limits to the overall weight capacity on any plane. So, in a way you may argue that passengers get bumped for some passengers show up with lots of luggage. On the surface, that may be right. But behind the scenes, the airlines have decreased the weight allocation for passengers and their luggage in favor of carrying additional cargo payload. People got bumped in the 70lbs days and continue to get bumped today. It's not like airplanes can't carry as much weight today as they could back when passengers were allowed more luggage. :no:

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You are going to sit there and tell me that a plane is going to go over it's weight limit solely from passengers and their luggage?

Don't put words in my mouth... I never said that.... :no:

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Do you really want to run out of fuel 100 miles from your destination because Mabel has 200 pounds of luggage?
Now this is just plain silly. Airlines haven't run out of fuel when the weight restrictions were at 70lbs per piece. They're not actually hauling less weight these days either. They're just hauling different weight. Extra paying weight.

We have a serious obesity problem in the country -- collectively, people are heavier than ever before.

Since the airlines cannot charge a 300lb person extra for her weight, they have to impose stricter

luggage restrictions.

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