French/American Couples - Part III - 2014

[Alix64 425]

15 hours ago, MA&AR said:

Got DQ today !!!!! Super thrilled !

They said they would expedite our interview once DQ, curious how long that will actually take.

You should get your interview very soon then, like by the end of July (my guess).

Congratulations, it's great!

[Alix64 425]

Hello Everyone,

Planning to have my husband flying from the US to France so that he is in Paris for the itw (who knows, they may let him come in) and will then travel back, go through Port of Entry with me and all.

 

BUT 🤨

I have read closely the Attestation documents provided by the French government that are required to travel (in addition to the free-from-covid form). It appears there is a distinct and confusing difference in language between the French and English forms.

 

So I would like to know what you guys think of it:

 

-- In the FRENCH version of the form, surely the most accurate since original, it says:

"certifie que le motif de déplacement correspond à l’une des catégories suivantes (cocher la case) 

a. Ressortissant de nationalité française, ainsi que son conjoint et ses enfants” etc.

Which I would translate by “A French national, as well as his/her spouse and children”.

There is NO specificity regarding the necessity of the French spouse to be traveling in this instance.

-- And then, in the English version of this form, the same paragraph reads:

" French nationals, accompanied by their spouse and children”

which is something entirely different and is not applicable to us in this case.

 

Confusing right? 🧐🧐🧐

 

 

 

 

[Alix64 425]

I keep having my monologue on this discussion lol 🤣...

 

The Consulate replied already. They said that as long as my husband has a copy of my passport, a copy of our "livret de famille" and ideally a proof that we share some invoice in France (we share electricity and gaz so I have the invoices under both our names), he should be fine to enter the French soil. BUT they also said, that of course, it will be up to the airline and up to the Officer at the Border when he arrives.

Voilà.

Take care you all,

Alix

Edited July 2, 2020 by Alix64

[MA&AR 16]

On 7/1/2020 at 1:42 PM, Alix64 said:

 

"certifie que le motif de déplacement correspond à l’une des catégories suivantes (cocher la case) 

a. Ressortissant de nationalité française, ainsi que son conjoint et ses enfants” etc.

 

I traveled to and from Florida to France in march, and June had no problem whatsoever. - As a dual French US citizen.

 

Just take a cab or your own transportation to the airport.

The boarder patrol will only ask for your passport as they always did. 

And airlines need business bad so they are not about to deny boarding because of an attestation which they are not legal enforcers of.

 

 

 

[Alix64 425]

7 hours ago, MA&AR said:

 

Thanks. I think we are fine yes with the right documents. 😉
I have a friend at AirfFrance (chef de cabine longs courriers), she says Air  France has a responsibility towards the French Government (And the Gov is financially helping them in that regard too) not to fly just anyone to France and respect the rules that have been imposed on July 1rst with « third kind countries » (= those that are right now very impacted by  Covid - like the USA), otherwise they get a severe fine + they take a risk to lose a customer by bringing him to France and be refused at the Police of the Frontiers. 
You write you are a dual French-US citizen, that’s great, and probably why you were able to travel both ways with no problem. My husband is « just » a US citizen. 

Anyway, I’m confident. Thanks for your reply. 
 

[Alix64 425]

Sorry guys, to bother you with it again, I just would like to avoid my husband to be turned down once he arrives in Paris...

here is an extract from the attestation, that all US citizens have to fill out and present to both the Airline before boarding and at the Police des Frontiers once in France.

We are still not sure what box to tick... my guess is number 1. But the French phrase is very confusing.

Does the "ressortissant de nationalité française" have to be with his family members to travel ?

OR

Does it mean that family members of a French citizen (even if they are not French) can enter the French soil.

We realised the Consulat did not take the risk to answer straightforwardly to us on that precise point.

Thanks,

Alix

[MA&AR 16]

If he's not French or French resident he won't be able to enter France.

US citizens were not allowed in France last time I checked.

 

Currently a French a person can't go to the US because of US restrictions and a US citizen can't go to France because of French restrictions. 

 

Entry and Exit Requirements:

• Restrictions entering France from outside the European Union (including the United States) remain in place. 
• https://fr.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/

 

Sorry...

[loveinChicago 7]

Hi,

my husband who doesn’t have French citizenship nor a « titre de séjour » entered France on 11 March.

on the form, he said he was a French citizen or partner of one and they let him go.

one advice : get a direct flight from the US to France so the customs authorities will verify the information and authorize boarding... my husband was denied boarding a flight with a layover in London.

Happy to answer more questions.

cheers! 

[Alix64 425]

10 hours ago, MA&AR said:

If he's not French or French resident he won't be able to enter France.

US citizens were not allowed in France last time I checked.

 

Currently a French a person can't go to the US because of US restrictions and a US citizen can't go to France because of French restrictions. 

 

Entry and Exit Requirements:

• Restrictions entering France from outside the European Union (including the United States) remain in place. 
• https://fr.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/

 

Sorry...

Thank you MA&AR, That is why I am quoting the new formulaire and wonder what my husband should choose as an option 😉

There are restrictions yes, but also exceptions to the restrictions...

[Alix64 425]

9 hours ago, loveinChicago said:

Hi,

my husband who doesn’t have French citizenship nor a « titre de séjour » entered France on 11 March.

on the form, he said he was a French citizen or partner of one and they let him go.

one advice : get a direct flight from the US to France so the customs authorities will verify the information and authorize boarding... my husband was denied boarding a flight with a layover in London.

Happy to answer more questions.

cheers! 

Hello LoveInChicago, things have changed since March and the US have become one of the major concentrations of Covid cases since then.

Here is the map of the situation from the Schengen point of view as of July1rst...

 

We got a second "real" answer from a French Consulate in the US, let me share it with you (with the "slight detail" that of course the Officer at the Border can still refuse the US citizen on the French soil) :

-- Bring copies of the French's spouse passport, the livret de famille, ideally a bill paid together in Frence (rent, electricity, etc.) ;

-- On the formulaire (attestation de déplacement vers la France métropolitaine depuis les pays tiers), you can tick either the second option or add by handwritting "je rejoins mon épouse/mon époux".

 

Since you have to quaranteene once you arrive in France, my husband won't enter the US Embassy with me for the interview (we decided it would be wiser 😉 but at least, if he makes it to Paris, we will be together.)

 

Won't bother you with it anymore now. Have a good week-end,

Alix

 

Edited July 4, 2020 by Alix64

[Alix64 425]

9 hours ago, loveinChicago said:

my husband was denied boarding a flight with a layover in London.

good to know, thank you

[MA&AR 16]

Cool @Alix64, let us know how it goes !

[Alix64 425]

Ah ! 😉 Let's see how it goes...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tamarathiessen/2020/07/06/us-europe-travel-ban-eu-wants-lovers-couples-exempt/amp/

 

[Rose__ 303]

Did all CR1/IR1 applicants get their interview scheduled yet? I’m French but live in Canada and the consulate still hasn’t reopened, they’re not giving any info... I’m contemplating transferring my case to the Paris embassy.

[AllTheseGoneBy 13]

I have been a DQ since June 20, do you know when they schedules the interviews?

Edited July 9, 2020 by AllTheseGoneBy