The Majority of Military Sexual Assault Victims Are Men. ( How could Danno have been so right?)

[Danno 1,228]

D. I am sure others share your misconception as well.

However, a sexual assault report is always made by the victim. The accused does not get to choose sexual orientation.

The victims could be gay or not.

The one case I gave testimony in, the victim was not gay, had a girlfriend back home.

Clearly the Sgt. was.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

The victims could be gay or not.

The one case I gave testimony in, the victim was not gay, had a girlfriend back home.

Clearly the Sgt. was.

Lot's of gays have wives and children.

[JohnR! 5,495]

The victims could be gay or not.

The one case I gave testimony in, the victim was not gay, had a girlfriend back home.

That is in line with what the copy you posted in the initial post states. Most of the sexual attacks are perpetrated by heterosexuals. Perhaps they perceived that gays will welcome sexual advances, as many believe women would too... Go figure!

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

D. I am sure others share your misconception as well.

However, a sexual assault report is always made by the victim. The accused does not get to choose sexual orientation.

well why does everyone keep going on and on about the attackers not being gay

[JohnR! 5,495]

well why does everyone keep going on and on about the attackers not being gay

I believe that is what the copy posted in the initial post stated.

Here is the link once again, with a snippet from the text where the statement is made:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/06/24/majority_of_military_sexual_assault_victims_are_men_now_that_the_focus_isn.html

The fact that most military rape is male-on-male also shows how very wrong it is to suggest that the problem is that we let women serve to begin with. Even if you removed them all, that leaves nearly 14,000 rapes a year.

And lest you think this male-on-male crime is the result of the repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell,” Dao shows otherwise. As one male victim told Dao, “The people who perpetrated these crimes on me identify as heterosexual males,” which is frequently true of male-on-male rape.

[Danno 1,228]

I believe that is what the copy posted in the initial post stated.

Here is the link once again, with a snippet from the text where the statement is made:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/06/24/majority_of_military_sexual_assault_victims_are_men_now_that_the_focus_isn.html

As one male victim told Dao, “The people who perpetrated these crimes on me identify as heterosexual males,” which is frequently true of male-on-male rape.

What does "one" male victims speculation have to do with the problem as a whole?

No doubt we could find "one" female service member who was attacked by another woman... does that mean there is no problem with men assaulting women?

Edited January 6, 2014 by Danno

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

What does "one" male victims speculation have to do with the problem as a whole?

So, you're saying that he's wrong?

[Darnell 8,479]

So, wouldn't it be great if same sex sexual congress/assault/rape

is NOT considered any type of crime in the Army?

[leave it as a crime in the Marine Corps, Navy and Air Force, though]

[JohnR! 5,495]

What does "one" male victims speculation have to do with the problem as a whole?

No doubt we could find "one" female service member who was attacked by another woman... does that mean there is no problem with men assaulting women?

Read again:

As one male victim told Dao, “The people who perpetrated these crimes on me identify as heterosexual males,” which is frequently true of male-on-male rape.

[Danno 1,228]

So, you're saying that he's wrong?

Wrong about what... that in "his" case the perp was hetro?

He could have been..... but we are talking about thousands and thousands of victims here.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Wrong about what... that in "his" case the perp was hetro?

He could have been..... but we are talking about thousands and thousands of victims here.

But you're assuming every single one of them were gay. Some guys who've assaulted other men, they have girlfriends, wives, and children. So, that makes them bisexual at the very least. Or does being gay trump everything else?

[JohnR! 5,495]

The victims could be gay or not.

The one case I gave testimony in, the victim was not gay, had a girlfriend back home.

Clearly the Sgt. was.

Wrong about what... that in "his" case the perp was hetro?

He could have been..... but we are talking about thousands and thousands of victims here.

ergo, you are invalidating your own argument.

However, in the case of the copy you posted it reads:

Read again:

As one male victim told Dao, “The people who perpetrated these crimes on me identify as heterosexual males,” which is frequently true of male-on-male rape.

Although he spoke of one incident, he did so as an illustration to the broader context, whereas you cited only one case and expanded from there to draw incorrect conclusions.

Edited January 6, 2014 by Gegel

[Danno 1,228]

Read again:

As one male victim told Dao, “The people who perpetrated these crimes on me identify as heterosexual males,” which is frequently true of male-on-male rape.

Bro, some throw away line by a lib in a column piece is not "proof" of anything.

But lets take her claim "frequently" ....what percentage would you estimate that to be? (No one knows)

And what of the rest?

People commit suicide frequently, how many such cases does the average person know personally?

[JohnR! 5,495]

Bro, some throw away line by a lib in a column piece is not "proof" of anything.

You should be telling that to yourself. You posted the copy whence the snippet was parsed.

Perhaps you are suggesting your own thread lacks gravitas? (this is a rhetorical question, just so you know...)

Edited January 6, 2014 by Gegel

[Danno 1,228]

ergo, you are invalidating your own argument.

However, in the case of the copy you posted it reads:

Read again:

As one male victim told Dao, “The people who perpetrated these crimes on me identify as heterosexual males,” which is frequently true of male-on-male rape.

Although he spoke of one incident, he did so as an illustration to the broader context, whereas you cited only one case and expanded from there to draw incorrect conclusions.

I'm not making any argument, the facts speak for themselves.

IN the one case I was familiar with, that case can only speak for its self.

In that case a older more senior Sgt targeted a young new guy.

By rights, they should not have even been fraternizing.

The Sgt not only got booted out, he ruined the PFC's military future, he ended up letting him out early.