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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Hello!

I am a Canadian citizen who is recently engaged to a US citizen. I wish to eventually live and work in the United States, and obtain my Masters Degree there.

My understanding, and tell me if I'm going about this the wrong way, is that the "best" option for me is to marry, for my wife to then submit a CR-1, and then spend the next eleven months going through the approvals process before arriving, receiving my green card, and only then will I be permitted to enroll in an American university.

Or is it better to apply for a student visa, then apply for an Adjustment of Status?

If I have a CR-1 underway, will I not be permitted to visit my wife in the US?

This is all new territory for us, so we would be grateful for any advice you could offer. Thanks!

Marriage: 2014-01-10

I-130 Sent : 2014-01-22

I-130 NOA1 Hardcopy : 2014-01-27

I-130 NOA2 Hardcopy : 2014-07-22


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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Since you are just engaged and not married, you would go thru K1 Visa process in order to marry in US. You can of course get married in Canada and go thru the CR-1 process as well. K1 process can start now but CR-1 will have to wait till you are actually married.

Student Visa is a no intent to immigrate Visa which basically means you are declaring that you have no intention to move/immigrate to US. Obviously, that is not the case for you since you intend to marry your fiance and immigrate to US. This route is illegal but used by many. They claim they came to US, and met someone special and just had to get married. (AoS process) Obviously that would be a lie in your case and if USCIS ever finds out you lied on their petition, it would cause serious problem with your petition(s). Illegal way is faster but It would be up to you to take the risk.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Okay, good to know. US universities are off the table until the marriage paperwork is in place.

Presumably we can also just get married in the US right away and file the CR-1 the day after? The wedding ceremony could, in that case, be postponed until a later date, but the marriage would be legitimate and legal as soon as the paperwork is filed?

Can I still enter and leave the US as a visitor if I have a CR-1 application underway?

Marriage: 2014-01-10

I-130 Sent : 2014-01-22

I-130 NOA1 Hardcopy : 2014-01-27

I-130 NOA2 Hardcopy : 2014-07-22


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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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Presumably we can also just get married in the US right away and file the CR-1 the day after?

Can I still enter and leave the US as a visitor if I have a CR-1 application underway?

Yes and yes

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Yes and yes

It seems that border agents are extra careful when it comes to visitor who are already in CR-1 or in any other immigration processing. Technically you can enter US as a visitor for up to 6 months in a given year but I hear that they stop some who doesn't show strong ties to their home country (Canada in your case).

Some sort of paper that shows that you intent to return to Canada after a visit (mortgage/rent paper, job/employee verification, return ticket if traveling by public transportation, etc) usually help when you go thru the border.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Okay, good to know. US universities are off the table until the marriage paperwork is in place.

Presumably we can also just get married in the US right away and file the CR-1 the day after? The wedding ceremony could, in that case, be postponed until a later date, but the marriage would be legitimate and legal as soon as the paperwork is filed?

Can I still enter and leave the US as a visitor if I have a CR-1 application underway?

If you intend to get married in US, you must go thru K1 process. If you come without the K1 visa and get married in US, then you have to go thru the AoS process and not CR-1 process. This will put you back in the grey area....

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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If you intend to get married in US, you must go thru K1 process. If you come without the K1 visa and get married in US, then you have to go thru the AoS process and not CR-1 process. This will put you back in the grey area....

If one is intending to STAY in the US after getting married then the above is correct. However, if one intends to return to their country after getting married, then the above is incorrect.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Yup, and it's the latter case. I'm getting married this Friday, then I'll continue to live patiently in Canada, visiting on the weekends (assuming the border guards are okay with that) until I get permission to live in the US.

Given as I've been crossing that border every weekend for over a year, I doubt there is any concerns that I'll return as normal, but I've got a job and a mortgage in Canada to use as supporting evidence.

Marriage: 2014-01-10

I-130 Sent : 2014-01-22

I-130 NOA1 Hardcopy : 2014-01-27

I-130 NOA2 Hardcopy : 2014-07-22


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Visiting should be fine.

FYI to study in the USA can be very expensive. Most schools want you to be a resident for a year before the give you in state tuition rates. But with a CR1 you can do EI or work right away.

I always took my evidence with me (employer letter, proof I was leasing, a few bills, and had a return ticket because I always flew) but was never asked for it. Always be truthful, polite, and friendly.

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

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