Country star Toby Keith sparks outrage after banning GUNS from his new Virginia restaurant

[Peikko 1,575]

You should WATCH and learn BEFORE you make stupid comments about what I should fear

Learn what? I know it's safe to go to a restaurant without weapons. I have done it on many hundreds of occasions. That you choose to be scared based on a misunderstanding of reasonable risk is not my problem. I expect you play the lottery too, and with the 'well, someone has to win' mindset too. It's not rationale.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Think of it this way. I don;t know you, but I know you have a gun. That means I have to pay more attention to you, than I would otherwise. I feel the same way, whether it is a police officer with a sidearm, or kid with a baseball bat,

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

This has never been my experience... Maybe I'm missing something, like leaving the waitresses tip in bullets (.22s since apparently they are so rare it's like using cigarettes as currency in prison)

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Of course, one never knows when this might happen:

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2013/12/alleged_masturbating_man_in_sa.html

When being rudely arrested by police in a bar a man should have more to defend himself with than his love gun.

[JohnR! 5,495]

If you don't like America's freedom with weapons, there are other countries that don't allow them. Feel free to move at any time.

Just because the right to bear arms comes in after the right to free speech, it does not mean it supercedes it, ergo your suggestion is as disingenious as if someone were to suggest that if you do not like another's opinion you should move to a country where freedom of speech is restricted to all and aligned with yours.

The idea being that your right to bear arms has as much weight as another's right to free speech, and one should not encumber the other.

In essence, in America we do not tell people to leave the country or put them in prison just becuase we do not share nor like their opinion; on the contrary, dissidence in opinions is quintessentially American. Consider getting used to that notion, instead of telling others to leave every time they disagree with you.

Edited December 30, 2013 by Gegel

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

As a 2nd amd supporter and gun owner I have no problem telling people not to bring guns in a place that also has a bar, drunks and guns don't mix well. It's also Toby's right but I hope he has security. P.S. it did not cause an uproar

What I do have a problem with is a company like Kay's jewelry telling customers that can't even have a gun in their car in the parking lot.. I am smart enough to understand why an armed person walking in a jewelry store might make the clerk nervous. I get that, but in your car?

That is not within their rights and I told HQ that loudly. I also I also called the local owner . She was embarrassed and told me I would be welcome as she carries one in hers.

Edited December 30, 2013 by The conciliator

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

Just because the right to bear arms comes in after the right to free speech, it does not mean it supercedes it, ergo your suggestion is as disingenious as if someone were to suggest that if you do not like another's opinion you should move to a country where freedom of speech is restricted to all and aligned with yours.

The idea being that your right to bear arms has as much weight as another's right to free speech, and one should not encumber the other.

In essence, in America we do not tell people to leave the country or put them in prison just becuase we do not share nor like their opinion; on the contrary, dissidence in opinions is quintessentially American. Consider getting used to that notion, instead of telling others to leave every time they disagree with you.

I'm sorry if my suggestion to leave a country where you don't like the rules is offensive to youz here. It's not like it's a response to one random post; she has stated many times over that it's irresponsible to carry a gun outside the house, yet it's something that's legal and allowed here, due in part to our great freedoms. One way to be rid of those pesky gun-toting "irresponsible" people is to move away from them. If I lived next to an airport but didn't like the noise, I'd move. If I lived in a country where I didn't like the restrictions placed on me, I'd move. It's simply a matter of finding a place that fits. If I preferred castle living and the smell of Baltic sea air over the ability to own guns and shoot fireworks on New Years' Eve, I might moev to Lithuania. But thus far in life, I prefer our freedoms here.

Another thing that was "quintessentially American" was being able to migrate here at will from anywhere else in the world. That kinda went away, didn't it?

[SMOKE 1,426]

toby keith's 'tumbleweed' appetizers are awesome...if you decide to go

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

What I do have a problem with is a company like Kay's jewelry telling customers that can't even have a gun in their car in the parking lot.. I am smart enough to understand why an armed person walking in a jewelry store might make the clerk nervous. I get that, but in your car?

That is not within their rights ...

Sure it is as long as the parking lot is their private property - and they don't need to own it, leasing it will suffice. Every employer I have worked for in this country has a strict no gun policy on the premises. That includes the cars parked on the employer's premises and it is perfectly legal for the employer to do this. If you bring a gun onto the premises in your car, your employment will be terminated and no court is going to help you if you were to try to fight it. Private property is an awesome thing.

[JohnR! 5,495]

I'm sorry if my suggestion to leave a country where you don't like the rules is offensive to youz here.

Not at all. It is not offensive, so much as it is childish, disingeinous and laughable.

Edited December 30, 2013 by Gegel

[Teddy B 17,252]

Sure but there are people out there that profess that they can't take a dump without their gun. How would they be expected to eat without it?

Good thing for the gun aficionados, they don't have to.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Sure it is as long as the parking lot is their private property - and they don't need to own it, leasing it will suffice. Every employer I have worked for in this country has a strict no gun policy on the premises. That includes the cars parked on the employer's premises and it is perfectly legal for the employer to do this. If you bring a gun onto the premises in your car, your employment will be terminated and no court is going to help you if you were to try to fight it. Private property is an awesome thing.

Great essay on Employer rights. Uhh I don't work for Kay's and no they don't have the right to tell me I can't have a gun in the mall parking lot.

[mota bhai 2,675]

Great essay on Employer rights. Uhh I don't work for Kay's and no they don't have the right to tell me I can't have a gun in the mall parking lot.

Private property owners absolutely do have the right.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Private property owners absolutely do have the right.

Yes but Kays but again Kay's does not own the Mall parking lot

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Great essay on Employer rights. Uhh I don't work for Kay's and no they don't have the right to tell me I can't have a gun in the mall parking lot.

The mall could set such rule on its property. If Kay's actually leases the parking spots in front of its store, it can set the rule on its property as well. It's not a matter of employer or not, it's a matter of private property rights.