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[JenaM25 0]

I am helping my friend, Fadhil and his fiance Nora to get her K-1 Visa. The site has been terrific. I've been spending alot of time here with the February 2012 filers.

I am here to learn! Rec'd RFE letter today. WOW! I thought we sent a very, very complete application. Guess not!

The letter gives us a list. We sent copies of Orbitz itineraries, but not the actual tickets. Fadhil is planning a trip to Morocco in the very near future, so will save the actual tickets & receipts. As well as hotel receipts.

And we'll make a complete copy of his passport.

How do we make an official "affidavit"? Maybe we can have Nora's father & mother prepare an affidavit? Do you think that will help?

Thanks for your help & support. And I wish you all speedy processing of your applications!

[JenaM25 0]

I am helping my friend, Fadhil and his fiance Nora to get her K-1 Visa. The site has been terrific. I've been spending alot of time here with the February 2012 filers.

I am here to learn! Rec'd RFE letter today. WOW! I thought we sent a very, very complete application. Guess not!

The letter gives us a list. We sent copies of Orbitz itineraries, but not the actual tickets. Fadhil is planning a trip to Morocco in the very near future, so will save the actual tickets & receipts. As well as hotel receipts.

And we'll make a complete copy of his passport.

How do we make an official "affidavit"? Maybe we can have Nora's father & mother prepare an affidavit? Do you think that will help?

Thanks for your help & support. And I wish you all speedy processing of your applications!

Just thought of a few more questions:

Would a copies of credit card statements showing flight purchases help?

I found the sample Affidavit on the VJWikipedia page. So I'm planning on changing it from "spouse" to "fiance". If Fadhil does an Affidavit here and Nora does one in MOrocco, will that be good?

And what about Affidavits from Nora's parents?

[cellas 1]

Just thought of a few more questions:

Would a copies of credit card statements showing flight purchases help?

I found the sample Affidavit on the VJWikipedia page. So I'm planning on changing it from "spouse" to "fiance". If Fadhil does an Affidavit here and Nora does one in MOrocco, will that be good?

And what about Affidavits from Nora's parents?

the afidavit is needed after the petition approved, the petitioner should complete the form I-134, his or her parents could help with that if he or she doesn't have enough saving to support. It's better to have the form completed right after the petition approved.

[mishka1 17]

the afidavit is needed after the petition approved, the petitioner should complete the form I-134, his or her parents could help with that if he or she doesn't have enough saving to support. It's better to have the form completed right after the petition approved.

Cellas is correct, I-134 is only needed to be filled out by the petitioner and any of his relative(s) if he does not meet the USA poverity standard or level. And I'm confused, if you submitted the requested documents as indicated in the RFE letter, any boarding pass, or passport showing entry and departure, will not have any meaning, write me in details your issue, and I see if I could help.

Just thought of a few more questions:

Would a copies of credit card statements showing flight purchases help?

I found the sample Affidavit on the VJWikipedia page. So I'm planning on changing it from "spouse" to "fiance". If Fadhil does an Affidavit here and Nora does one in MOrocco, will that be good?

And what about Affidavits from Nora's parents?

Cellas is correct, I-134 is only needed to be filled out by the petitioner and any of his relative(s) if he does not meet the USA poverity standard or level. And I'm confused, if you submitted the requested documents as indicated in the RFE letter, any boarding pass, or passport showing entry and departure, will not have any meaning, write me in details your issue, and I see if I could help.

[JenaM25 0]

Some of the answers confused me, so I'm going to share the RFE:

"you did not submit sufficient evidence to establish that you and your fiancee(3) have met each other in person during the period from 2/10/10 - 2/10/12. It is noted that you submitted photos; however they do not have handwritten labels of the dates, names and locations.

CAN WE SEND DUPLICATES OF PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED PHOTOS WITH THE APPROPRIATE LABELS? WILL THIS BE GOOD ENOUGH? FADHIL IS MAKING A TRIP TO MOROCCO SOON AND WILL TAKE MORE PICTURES.

"You have submitted electronic copies of your flight itineraries: however USCIS does not accept itineraries alone as sufficient evidence..."

WOULD A COMPLETE COPY OF FADHIL'S PASSPORT HELP TO PROVE HIS PREVIOUS TRIP? WOULD HIS CREDIT CARD BILL WHICH SHOWS EXPENDITURES IN MOROCCO BE PROOF?

AND WHAT SHOULD HE COLLECT AS PROOF ON HIS UPCOMING TRIP?

"evidence that Fadhil & Nora met in person at some time during the two -year period. Evidence should include, but is not limited to:

Fadhil's statement which must include the date, place, and circumstance of meeting. It must be supporTed by additional evidence.

WHEN I MENTIONED AN AFFIDAVIT IN MY ORIGINAL RFE POSTING, THIS IS WHAT I THOUGHT THE STATEMENT SHOULD BE. ANY OTHER TEMPLATES/FORMS THAT I CAN USE HERE?

NORA WILL DO A SIMILAR STATEMENT/AFFIDAVIT.

Letters written to each other after theirmeeting(s), referencing specific date & place of meetings.

SINCE THEY COMMUNICATE BY PHONE ONLY, I WILL GET A COPY OF HIS PHONE BILLS FOR THE ENTIRE 2 YEAR PERIOD. I WILL GET NORA'S PHONE BILLS FOR THE SAME TIME PERIOD.

"Affidavits of friends, neighbors, or other knowledgeable associates. All affidavits must conform to the guidelines cited below:

Written statements sworn to or affirmed by two persons, who were living at the time the events occurred and who have personal knowledge of the event you are trying to prove. The persons making the affidavits may be relatives and need not be citizens of the US.

COULD I DO A STATEMENT EVEN THOUGH I WASN'T IN MOROCCO? AND THEN HAVE IT WITNESSED BY 2 PEOPLE AND NOTORIZED? COULD ONE OF FADHIL'S CO-WORKERS OR HIS BOSS DO THE SAME? AND IN MOROCCO, NORA'S PARENTS COULD EACH PROVIDE A STATEMENT. DO THEY NOTORIZE AFFIDAVITS IN MOROCCO?

This is one long, long post! But the reasons' given in the RFE might just help many of you avoid this delay in the future!

[cellas 1]

Some of the answers confused me, so I'm going to share the RFE:

"you did not submit sufficient evidence to establish that you and your fiancee(3) have met each other in person during the period from 2/10/10 - 2/10/12. It is noted that you submitted photos; however they do not have handwritten labels of the dates, names and locations.

CAN WE SEND DUPLICATES OF PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED PHOTOS WITH THE APPROPRIATE LABELS? WILL THIS BE GOOD ENOUGH? FADHIL IS MAKING A TRIP TO MOROCCO SOON AND WILL TAKE MORE PICTURES.

"You have submitted electronic copies of your flight itineraries: however USCIS does not accept itineraries alone as sufficient evidence..."

WOULD A COMPLETE COPY OF FADHIL'S PASSPORT HELP TO PROVE HIS PREVIOUS TRIP? WOULD HIS CREDIT CARD BILL WHICH SHOWS EXPENDITURES IN MOROCCO BE PROOF?

AND WHAT SHOULD HE COLLECT AS PROOF ON HIS UPCOMING TRIP?

"evidence that Fadhil & Nora met in person at some time during the two -year period. Evidence should include, but is not limited to:

Fadhil's statement which must include the date, place, and circumstance of meeting. It must be supporTed by additional evidence.

WHEN I MENTIONED AN AFFIDAVIT IN MY ORIGINAL RFE POSTING, THIS IS WHAT I THOUGHT THE STATEMENT SHOULD BE. ANY OTHER TEMPLATES/FORMS THAT I CAN USE HERE?

NORA WILL DO A SIMILAR STATEMENT/AFFIDAVIT.

Letters written to each other after theirmeeting(s), referencing specific date & place of meetings.

SINCE THEY COMMUNICATE BY PHONE ONLY, I WILL GET A COPY OF HIS PHONE BILLS FOR THE ENTIRE 2 YEAR PERIOD. I WILL GET NORA'S PHONE BILLS FOR THE SAME TIME PERIOD.

"Affidavits of friends, neighbors, or other knowledgeable associates. All affidavits must conform to the guidelines cited below:

Written statements sworn to or affirmed by two persons, who were living at the time the events occurred and who have personal knowledge of the event you are trying to prove. The persons making the affidavits may be relatives and need not be citizens of the US.

COULD I DO A STATEMENT EVEN THOUGH I WASN'T IN MOROCCO? AND THEN HAVE IT WITNESSED BY 2 PEOPLE AND NOTORIZED? COULD ONE OF FADHIL'S CO-WORKERS OR HIS BOSS DO THE SAME? AND IN MOROCCO, NORA'S PARENTS COULD EACH PROVIDE A STATEMENT. DO THEY NOTORIZE AFFIDAVITS IN MOROCCO?

This is one long, long post! But the reasons' given in the RFE might just help many of you avoid this delay in the future!

i hope this answer your questions

http://www.usavisanow.com/k-1-fiance-visa/

[mishka1 17]

Some of the answers confused me, so I'm going to share the RFE:

"you did not submit sufficient evidence to establish that you and your fiancee(3) have met each other in person during the period from 2/10/10 - 2/10/12. It is noted that you submitted photos; however they do not have handwritten labels of the dates, names and locations.

CAN WE SEND DUPLICATES OF PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED PHOTOS WITH THE APPROPRIATE LABELS? WILL THIS BE GOOD ENOUGH? FADHIL IS MAKING A TRIP TO MOROCCO SOON AND WILL TAKE MORE PICTURES.

"You have submitted electronic copies of your flight itineraries: however USCIS does not accept itineraries alone as sufficient evidence..."

WOULD A COMPLETE COPY OF FADHIL'S PASSPORT HELP TO PROVE HIS PREVIOUS TRIP? WOULD HIS CREDIT CARD BILL WHICH SHOWS EXPENDITURES IN MOROCCO BE PROOF?

AND WHAT SHOULD HE COLLECT AS PROOF ON HIS UPCOMING TRIP?

"evidence that Fadhil & Nora met in person at some time during the two -year period. Evidence should include, but is not limited to:

Fadhil's statement which must include the date, place, and circumstance of meeting. It must be supporTed by additional evidence.

WHEN I MENTIONED AN AFFIDAVIT IN MY ORIGINAL RFE POSTING, THIS IS WHAT I THOUGHT THE STATEMENT SHOULD BE. ANY OTHER TEMPLATES/FORMS THAT I CAN USE HERE?

NORA WILL DO A SIMILAR STATEMENT/AFFIDAVIT.

Letters written to each other after theirmeeting(s), referencing specific date & place of meetings.

SINCE THEY COMMUNICATE BY PHONE ONLY, I WILL GET A COPY OF HIS PHONE BILLS FOR THE ENTIRE 2 YEAR PERIOD. I WILL GET NORA'S PHONE BILLS FOR THE SAME TIME PERIOD.

"Affidavits of friends, neighbors, or other knowledgeable associates. All affidavits must conform to the guidelines cited below:

Written statements sworn to or affirmed by two persons, who were living at the time the events occurred and who have personal knowledge of the event you are trying to prove. The persons making the affidavits may be relatives and need not be citizens of the US.

COULD I DO A STATEMENT EVEN THOUGH I WASN'T IN MOROCCO? AND THEN HAVE IT WITNESSED BY 2 PEOPLE AND NOTORIZED? COULD ONE OF FADHIL'S CO-WORKERS OR HIS BOSS DO THE SAME? AND IN MOROCCO, NORA'S PARENTS COULD EACH PROVIDE A STATEMENT. DO THEY NOTORIZE AFFIDAVITS IN MOROCCO?

This is one long, long post! But the reasons' given in the RFE might just help many of you avoid this delay in the future!

Jena, give me a chance I will respond to your post tomorrow Aug 30. Thanks

[JenaM25 0]

Jena, give me a chance I will respond to your post tomorrow Aug 30. Thanks

I am grateful for any guidance! And Cellas, thanks for the link. I guess I was surprised at the RFE because I followed the directions given with the form. I didn't find the VJ site until after we submitted the application.

And I am happy I found all of you!

[mishka1 17]

Jena, give me a chance I will respond to your post tomorrow Aug 30. Thanks

Ok Jena:

I understand that FADHIL got RFE, to answer your questions

Sufficient evidence your friend FADHIL Has to submit:

1- CIRCUMSTANCE OF MEETING- Under which FADHIL and NORA met to establish the relationship (WHEN, HOW, WHERE)

2- Last Personal meeting FADHIL and NORA must have met in person between 2/10/10 and 2/10/12. FADHIL must submit evidence of meeting NORA in person within the two year PERIOD PRECEDING THE FILING OF PETITION, and They BOTH are Free to marry (either single or divorced from previous marriages). There are two types of Evidence:

A- PRIMARY EVIDENCE: may include airline ticket stubs (Boarding passes)and receipts, ATM and credit card transactions, ( that indicate ,FADHIL'S name, month, day, and year), copies of passport pages that show the identification page and admission stamps, military order(s), letter from Commanding officer ( if that apply). Or any evidence that will help the USCIS to determine that FADHIL has met NORA within the two years.

B- SECONDARY EVIDENCE: may include FILM-DATED photographs (STAMPED BY THE CAMERA) of FADHIL and NORA together. I'm not sure that the submitted photos should have handwritten labels of the dates, names and location: SHOULD BE FILM DATED PHOTOS i.e. STAMPED BY THE CAMERA WHEN PHOTOS WAS TAKEN. The Following DOES NOT constitutes Evidence of MEETING, disc, videos, e-mails, letters. phone bills, and greeting cards.

However, this personal meeting requirement may be waived under the following TWO CIRCUMISTANCES:

1- When it is demonstrated that the personal meeting requirement would result in extreme hardship to FADHIL

2- When it s shown that the personal meeting would violate NORA's strict and long established customs, foreign culture or social practice.

Waiver could be submitted for # 1 and 2

As regards to affidavits of Friends, neighbors, etc.. Persons who witness the meeting of FADHIL and NORA and making the affidavits may be relatives AND MUST NOT BE UINTES STATES CITIZENS. IT IS MORE CONVIENCING IF THE AFFIDAVITS is coming from people, who live in MOROCOO, or WHERE FADHIL and NORA MET IN PERSON,

You Can not submit stamped photos after the fact, meaning after submitting I-129F petition, those photos could help after USCIS Approve the petition and during the Visa interview, this case it is an evidence of continuation of the relation

Hope my answer will help your friends.

[JenaM25 0]

Mischka,

Wow! Quick response. Thanks so much. I hope to meet with Fadhil tomorrow to get this going!

Of course, I have more questions.

1. Circumstances of Meeting: This would be an account in Fadhil's own words with dates/times/places. After he completes it, and signs it, does it need to be "Notorized"?

Would I obtain the same from Nora?

2. Last Personal Meeting: This would be BEFORE the application was submitted, so prior to January 23, 2012. I am hoping that the passport record showing Morocco and the ATM & Credit Card statements will work. I will find out if any of Nora's family in Morocco have time-stamped photos of his visits. And I will ask them to write about how Fadhil & Nora met and his subsequent visit. This would need to be translated. How do we do this "officially" so that the USCIS accepts the translated copy?

You did help to clarify his upcoming trip. When Fadhil makes his next visit, he should be gathering "new evidence" to prove continuation of the relationship" It looks like we have some work to do to collect more evidence from those 2 years.

Once again, thanks for the guidance!

[Yves&Nancy 1]

Our RFE reason:

Petitioner did not sign and date form G-325A

We've sent it back off, signed and dated, hopefully that's the end and we'll be on to NOA2

Same with my fiancée hehe

[mishka1 17]

Mischka,

Wow! Quick response. Thanks so much. I hope to meet with Fadhil tomorrow to get this going!

Of course, I have more questions.

1. Circumstances of Meeting: This would be an account in Fadhil's own words with dates/times/places. After he completes it, and signs it, does it need to be "Notorized"?

Would I obtain the same from Nora?

2. Last Personal Meeting: This would be BEFORE the application was submitted, so prior to January 23, 2012. I am hoping that the passport record showing Morocco and the ATM & Credit Card statements will work. I will find out if any of Nora's family in Morocco have time-stamped photos of his visits. And I will ask them to write about how Fadhil & Nora met and his subsequent visit. This would need to be translated. How do we do this "officially" so that the USCIS accepts the translated copy?

You did help to clarify his upcoming trip. When Fadhil makes his next visit, he should be gathering "new evidence" to prove continuation of the relationship" It looks like we have some work to do to collect more evidence from those 2 years.

Once again, thanks for the guidance!

Hello Jena:

Here are the answers to your questions:

1- Yes, it should be on his word statement in details as I explained (HOW< WHEN AND WHERE they met. IT does NOT require NOTARIZATION. NO Nora does not have to do anything, because the petition is submitted on her behalf.

2- Yes, BEFORE submitting the I-129F petition. And every country is stamping the visitors passport with ENTRY AND DEPARTURE dated stamp, also upon the return of the US citizen Fadhil should have dated stamp on his passport at the port of entry (POE) to USA. The ATM and credit card receipt dated when Fadhil was in Morocco along with hotel receipt will be ok, unless he stayed with Nora’s family (hopefully Nora is not his direct cousin ( they do not allow marriage between direct cousins in USA, however far cousin is ok ( it is called cousin once removed).

3- For any translated documents to English it should be NOTARIZED and the translator should state:

Statement of translator:

I …..name of translator....., certify that I’m fluent in English and Moroccan or French..etc languages, and that the above/attached document is in accurate translation of the document attached entitled ….Document name....

Signature Typed Name

Date Address

Translated from …….. into English by …..Name of translator

The EVIDENCE of the relation continuation is needed from the date pre submission of the petition till the time of the interview at US Embassy _Morocco

[cellas 1]

Hello Jena:

Here are the answers to your questions:

1- Yes, it should be on his word statement in details as I explained (HOW< WHEN AND WHERE they met. IT does NOT require NOTARIZATION. NO Nora does not have to do anything, because the petition is submitted on her behalf.

2- Yes, BEFORE submitting the I-129F petition. And every country is stamping the visitors passport with ENTRY AND DEPARTURE dated stamp, also upon the return of the US citizen Fadhil should have dated stamp on his passport at the port of entry (POE) to USA. The ATM and credit card receipt dated when Fadhil was in Morocco along with hotel receipt will be ok, unless he stayed with Nora’s family (hopefully Nora is not his direct cousin ( they do not allow marriage between direct cousins in USA, however far cousin is ok ( it is called cousin once removed).

3- For any translated documents to English it should be NOTARIZED and the translator should state:

Statement of translator:

I …..name of translator....., certify that I’m fluent in English and Moroccan or French..etc languages, and that the above/attached document is in accurate translation of the document attached entitled ….Document name....

Signature Typed Name

Date Address

Translated from …….. into English by …..Name of translator

The EVIDENCE of the relation continuation is needed from the date pre submission of the petition till the time of the interview at US Embassy _Morocco

I just used a sworn translator without statement and it worked, there's a sign, stamp, date from the translator in the translated papers. The petition is not completed just makes busier, so don't worry too much.

[mishka1 17]

I just used a sworn translator without statement and it worked, there's a sign, stamp, date from the translator in the translated papers. The petition is not completed just makes busier, so don't worry too much.

Cellas you were just lucky, check USCIS web site, and you will read about the translation requirement ...It is better for Jena to advice her friends to follow what suggested, and it is better to be safe than getting another RFE..

[JenaM25 0]

Cellas you were just lucky, check USCIS web site, and you will read about the translation requirement ...It is better for Jena to advice her friends to follow what suggested, and it is better to be safe than getting another RFE..

Mischka & Cellas,

Thanks so much for helping with these many, many questions. This weekend we're working on the statement & ATM & CC stuff.

Enjoy the weekend. (I'll probably have a few more questions )

Jena