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[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

The question to ask, and noone ever seems to want to, is why the economic scales appear to be heavily loaded against black Americans. Why is this? Why is it that blacks are statistically more likely to experience poverty?

Does noone think that this just might be a historical legacy? Does noone think that the economic disparity might manifest itself in terms of criminal behaviour?

Please send this to Danno.

I would say that neither of the political parties have shown much interest in the impoverished. The black vote can be quantified, the Republicans don't need it and the Democrats know they can count on it without having to do a whole lot. It's a failure of domestic policy going back many decades.

Truth. The GOP has made it clear they want nothing to do with us for so long that the Dems just have to do the bare minimum and we're content with it.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Tell me something Danno, at what point in American history, have black people ever had a fair shake? I'm talking about even ground, all around.

The danger here is that people incorrectly assume that pointing out the historical inequalities that black Americans have generally been exposed to somehow excuses violent or criminal behaviour. It doesn't.

However it is certainly worth questioning why black Americans are more likely, for instance, to see the inside of a jail. Either you believe that this situation exists because blacks are born violent (which of course is a racist view) or that there is something in their social experience that encourages criminality. This is the thing that needs fixing - and which won't be fixed while the Democrats are only interested in pushing welfare programmes as a reason to vote for them and the Republicans simply couldn't care less about anyone who makes less than $100,000 a year.

[Danno 1,228]

The question to ask, and noone ever seems to want to, is why the economic scales appear to be heavily loaded against black Americans. Why is this? Why is it that blacks are statistically more likely to experience poverty?

Does noone think that this just might be a historical legacy? Does noone think that the economic disparity might manifest itself in terms of criminal behaviour?

Your question is so elementary, it highlights the struggle I doubt we will ever overcome and that is the Lefts obsession with utopia.... building a society where outcomes are equal.

Let me address your question.

If 50% of black males in some areas do not even graduate High school, how could you then compare their future earning with those who did?

If Blacks tend to score much lower on the SAT, how could you assume they would major in fields with higher or equal pay?

If Blacks have a police record at many times the rates of others, wouldn't that limit their opportunities to earn good paying jobs?

Decades agoI went to a mixed school in NJ, within my class mates I have Blacks that were very successful and some that were not, same with whites.

How can it be that our Kids and grand kids are stuck in a rut we did not have?

Life choices determine where our feet take us.

In fact today, the college educated Black couple will on average earn more than a similar white couple.

Who was it that said -We have found the enemy, and it is us.

There are few places in the world where one can succeed on so little effort which is why people come here from parts of the world with experiences which dwarf anything most American Blacks of today have tasted.

Now historically, Blacks when given the opportunity used to do well...... what changed?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Your question is so elementary, it highlights the struggle I doubt we will ever overcome and that is the Lefts obsession with utopia.... building a society where outcomes are equal.

Let me address your question.

If 50% of black males in some areas do not even graduate High school, how could you then compare their future earning with those who did?

If Blacks tend to score much lower on the SAT, how could you assume they would major in fields with higher or equal pay?

If Blacks have a police record at many times the rates of others, wouldn't that limit their opportunities to earn good paying jobs?

Decades agoI went to a mixed school in NJ, within my class mates I have Blacks that were very successful and some that were not, same with whites.

How can it be that our Kids and grand kids are stuck in a rut we did not have?

Life choices determine where our feet take us.

In fact today, the college educated Black couple will on average earn more than a similar white couple.

Who was it that said -We have found the enemy, and it is us.

There are few places in the world where one can succeed on so little effort which is why people come here from parts of the world with experiences which dwarf anything most American Blacks of today have tasted.

Now historically, Blacks when given the opportunity used to do well...... what changed?

It's a very real social problem Danno. On a level field, everyone should be able to succeed - however I don't think it is unreasonable to ask why if you're black that's less likely. Again, there are two explanations for this - either you think that blacks are sub-par or there is an inherent unfairness in society. If you believe (as I do) that given a level playing field that everyone has a shot at equal success then the obvious answer is that the playing field isn't level.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

In fact today, the college educated Black couple will on average earn more than a similar white couple.

Is that a fact or a Danno fact?

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

The danger here is that people incorrectly assume that pointing out the historical inequalities that black Americans have generally been exposed to somehow excuses violent or criminal behaviour. It doesn't.

However it is certainly worth questioning why black Americans are more likely, for instance, to see the inside of a jail. Either you believe that this situation exists because blacks are born violent (which of course is a racist view) or that there is something in their social experience that encourages criminality. This is the thing that needs fixing - and which won't be fixed while the Democrats are only interested in pushing welfare programmes as a reason to vote for them and the Republicans simply couldn't care less about anyone who makes less than $100,000 a year.

I don't excuse the behavior, I was just lamenting about how in Danno's world there's nothing behind it.

Your question is so elementary, it highlights the struggle I doubt we will ever overcome and that is the Lefts obsession with utopia.... building a society where outcomes are equal.

Let me address your question.

If 50% of black males in some areas do not even graduate High school, how could you then compare their future earning with those who did?

If Blacks tend to score much lower on the SAT, how could you assume they would major in fields with higher or equal pay?

If Blacks have a police record at many times the rates of others, wouldn't that limit their opportunities to earn good paying jobs?

Decades agoI went to a mixed school in NJ, within my class mates I have Blacks that were very successful and some that were not, same with whites.

How can it be that our Kids and grand kids are stuck in a rut we did not have?

Life choices determine where our feet take us.

In fact today, the college educated Black couple will on average earn more than a similar white couple.

Who was it that said -We have found the enemy, and it is us.

There are few places in the world where one can succeed on so little effort which is why people come here from parts of the world with experiences which dwarf anything most American Blacks of today have tasted.

Now historically, Blacks when given the opportunity used to do well...... what changed?

We've shown countless articles and statistics that show how blacks with the same degrees earn less and get hire less that whites with less education. So you're wrong in that aspect.

I believe it's a lot deeper than what you keep throwing around.

[Danno 1,228]

It's a very real social problem Danno. On a level field, everyone should be able to succeed - however I don't think it is unreasonable to ask why if you're black that's less likely. Again, there are two explanations for this - either you think that blacks are sub-par or there is an inherent unfairness in society. If you believe (as I do) that given a level playing field that everyone has a shot at equal success then the obvious answer is that the playing field isn't level.

Are you seriously perplexed by this?

It is stunning that you can only see two reasons.

-Black are inferior

-Society is holding them back.

Why don't you ask this same question when you watch the same color guy win at the olympics or in the NBA?

Think about it..... Blacks are only 12% of the population, have you any idea how many more white kids are on the high school court playing ball every year across the country...... but by the time the weeding process is over just a few years later, that 12% which is black will take most of the top slots.

Statistically they should be about 12% of any NBA team.

Why is it the worlds Chess champion is not Zimbabwe, is the "fix" in?

People like you are either going to be crushed or you will crush science because research is now answering these questions our ancestors assumed they knew.

-Somethings are inherited and somethings are learned.

When the playing field is truly even Blacks do well, anyone who has been in the military has seen this but in the civilian world the Black culture is very different than the white culture.

You mentioned prison. the number 2 thing that people in prison have in common is -coming from a broken family (Tattoos are no. 1).

If Blacks kids are 72% of the time born without the advantage of a mother and father fighting for their best interest...... don't you think that might make a HUGE difference in their life, their opportunities and the Neighborhood they grow up in which compounds the drag on their upbringing.

​I know everyone gets mad at me because I speak more plainly about it than most whites will but I do it because I realize the longer we white keep pretending it's getting better when in many ways the progress is artificial or not at all.

To see a change, there has to be a change in the social problems.

And Blacks are not alone, if you look at people on food stamps, (race aside) it is astounding how few come from married headed house holds.

SO you just keep right on going down that path of "too each his own"..... and we will see how much you are willing to pay in taxes to support the result of that.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Are you seriously perplexed by this?

It is stunning that you can only see two reasons.

-Black are inferior

-Society is holding them back.

Why don't you ask this same question when you watch the same color guy win at the olympics or in the NBA?

Think about it..... Blacks are only 12% of the population, have you any idea how many more white kids are on the high school court playing ball every year across the country...... but by the time the weeding process is over just a few years later, that 12% which is black will take most of the top slots.

Statistically they should be about 12% of any NBA team.

Why is it the worlds Chess champion is not Zimbabwe, is the "fix" in?

People like you are either going to be crushed or you will crush science because research is now answering these questions our ancestors assumed they knew.

-Somethings are inherited and somethings are learned.

When the playing field is truly even Blacks do well, anyone who has been in the military has seen this but in the civilian world the Black culture is very different than the white culture.

You mentioned prison. the number 2 thing that people in prison have in common is -coming from a broken family (Tattoos are no. 1).

If Blacks kids are 72% of the time born without the advantage of a mother and father fighting for their best interest...... don't you think that might make a HUGE difference in their life, their opportunities and the Neighborhood they grow up in which compounds the drag on their upbringing.

​I know everyone gets mad at me because I speak more plainly about it than most whites will but I do it because I realize the longer we white keep pretending it's getting better when in many ways the progress is artificial or not at all.

To see a change, there has to be a change in the social problems.

And Blacks are not alone, if you look at people on food stamps, (race aside) it is astounding how few come from married headed house holds.

SO you just keep right on going down that path of "too each his own"..... and we will see how much you are willing to pay in taxes to support the result of that.

Who benefits from those sport teams? The black players, or the owners of said teams?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Danno, the only statistics that count are the end result, since those are real and reflect things that can actually be measured. The fact is if you're black in the USA you are more likely:

• to have a lower level of general education.
• to make less money.
• to come from a broken home.
• to see the inside of a jail.
• to experience poverty.
• to have a life expectancy below the national average.

Of course these things aren't exclusive to blacks, however I would say that they are exclusive to the poor. So why do you think that is?

People like you are either going to be crushed or you will crush science because research is now answering these questions our ancestors assumed they knew.

-Somethings are inherited and somethings are learned.

I think you need to elaborate a bit on this...

Edited January 2, 2014 by Papa Lazarou

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Oh, Penny, how I've missed your rationale

So both you and the Cabanista maintain that eating human placenta is common place. LOL

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Who benefits from those sport teams? The black players, or the owners of said teams?

Kobe made about 69 m last year. I would say he is doingok

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Every now and again, I would read something that would compel me to log in and say something, but my wife would be watching me at home and she would stop me. But I take solace in seeing folks like you e-smack the ish out of some of our more colorful members here.

And then you'd have nothing but peace and quiet, what fun is that

I just figured it out.You don't have a chip on your shoulder about being black...You grumpy cause you P-whipped

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Happy new year to you Danno. I'll explain this in the reply to NB so I don't have to repeat myself.

I was being honest. You see, it bothers me, I'd wager much more than you, Danno, Lost, and the few other folks here, because I have to live with that stereotype. It applies to all of us, since most folks think if a few of us do it, the entire race must do it as well. Whenever I see a video of folks fighting over Jordans, or random teens fighting because someone "looked" at them wrong, or the majority of anything on Worldstarhiphop(the black equivalent of Break.com) I will be affected by it. And many mature, responsible black people feel the same way about it and speak out about it as well.

As to you and Danno's claim that you have this unhealthy fear about being killed by a black person, I challenge you to look up the numbers. In 2013, how many white people were killed by black people? Let's see, the baseball player, the vet, the victim of the knockout game, let's go with 10, give or take. Now, how many black people were killed by black people? Who is in more danger, you or me? I have a greater chance of losing my life to someone who looks like me, just like you have a greater chance of losing your life to someone who looks like you. Lost calls it polar bear hunting and swears it's open season on white people, but check the numbers. Between the police, scared white people who kill in fear for their lives, yet always start the confrontation, and the random act of violence that comes with just being in the wrong place at the wrong time, I have more reason to fear for my life than you. Yet, I don't pack a gun, nor do I fear my people. I know what places to go, and I know how to carry myself as to avoid issues.

When white people start losing their lives in the same numbers as Chicago, St.Louis, East St. Louis, Detroit, Oakland, Baltimore, and many other cities, then your panic will be justified. But, let's cut the #######. It will never happen, and you know it.

But thing is,no matter how much you think it, I don't associate you with those types. When i see or speak to a reasonably articulate black man that does not say MF every other breath, I have no fear or judgement. Little part time job I told you about! Young black kid 30 ish something, was a manager there. well dressed professional, and by far the best manager there, at least as far as managerial skills.(people/leadership). I did not associate him with the crowd we speak of.

Problem is that the majority of young black males I run into are the gang banger wanna be varieties . Sorry but if you got your pants hanging off your butt, you speak like" mofo know what i say, shat man". and you got a mouth full of gold teeth, you are what you are.

[Danno 1,228]

Danno, the only statistics that count are the end result, since those are real and reflect things that can actually be measured. The fact is if you're black in the USA you are more likely:

• to have a lower level of general education.
• to make less money.
• to come from a broken home.
• to see the inside of a jail.
• to experience poverty.
• to have a life expectancy below the national average.

Of course these things aren't exclusive to blacks, however I would say that they are exclusive to the poor. So why do you think that is?

I think you need to elaborate a bit on this...

I'll gladly elaborate.

It is really simple, When you factor in similar life experiences the huge differences nearly disappear.

The odds of a Black male with a college education going to jail is nearly as rare as a comparative white.

If you look at whites raised in the single headed house hold , their arrest numbers are through the roof as well.

Where this same white kid has an advantage is... whites do not (yet) have large neighborhoods full of the same broken families and that has a "mending effect".

IN other words, if a kid has no dad at home but most of his friends do, he absorbs the culture through them. When everyone on the block is fatherless the effect of this is compounded.

So the Black couture has a lot more baggage to pull. The more you look at the numbers you realize how starkly different white and Black couture is.

Black women have an astronomical rate of not being married (I think it is like 70%)

What are the effects of that? The white kid whose father tales off might still find a roll model in the "step father" the poor black kid is likely to not even have a step father.

Look white people have other problems.

Suicide, Black rarely kill themselves, whites do at much greater rates.

Eating disorders, very few Black chicks look in the mirror and see someone fat and therefor begin to starve themselves....(one might say the opposite takes place).

Ever heard of a Black teen "cutting herself" to deal with her problems?

Blacks have a better self image and they also see themselves as more intelligent than do other racial groups report.

Bottom line, races are different, some of it is genetic some of it is culture or environment.

At the present, there are still a lot of people in denial about this.... those days are dwindling.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

So both you and the Cabanista maintain that eating human placenta is common place. LOL

Nah, just don't see in absolutes like you do

Kobe made about 69 m last year. I would say he is doingok

Yep, and ask what the GM of the Lakers makes. Like Chris Rock said, Kobe is rich, the guy who signs his checks, is wealthy.

I just figured it out.You don't have a chip on your shoulder about being black...You grumpy cause you P-whipped

There are more things to be grumpy about than that, can't think of any right now but I'll get back to you...

But thing is,no matter how much you think it, I don't associate you with those types. When i see or speak to a reasonably articulate black man that does not say MF every other breath, I have no fear or judgement. Little part time job I told you about! Young black kid 30 ish something, was a manager there. well dressed professional, and by far the best manager there, at least as far as managerial skills.(people/leadership). I did not associate him with the crowd we speak of.

Problem is that the majority of young black males I run into are the gang banger wanna be varieties . Sorry but if you got your pants hanging off your butt, you speak like" mofo know what i say, shat man". and you got a mouth full of gold teeth, you are what you are.

I hate it more than you do, at least you differentiate. Had a guy came in my office today for some help. Our old General gave us a gold plated Turkish model ship he got from his last command. The guy was like is that real? I said no, if it was he wouldn't have given it to the office. He said yeah, you'd probably melt it down and turn it into some bling bling. I rolled my eyes at him, and bit my tongue.