HOW WE ENDED UP IN DEPORTATION PROCEEDINGS

[nancyk 0]

You rise above the crowd in INSITE and ability to percieve anger and sarcasm. Its not a racial comment its a comment on SOCIETY and our obsession with creating a scape goat for 9/11. How else could you explain why our legislators are entertaining building a wall on the Mexican border when the 9/11 Terrorists came in through Canada or our US Customs turnstlyes?

Yeah.... Deportation always equals Mexican, doesn't it? *sigh*

Canadians get deported, Israelis get deported, Brits get deported, Czechs get deported. Why the emphasis on your spouse being NON-HISPANIC?

It's your own fault anyway... you've had 5 years and still didn't file the paperwork. No sympathy from me.

I read through the thread and noticed that many were outraged at the O/P's comment about "Non-Hispanic" being deported as if it insinuate that whites shouldn't be deported.

Whether the O/P is a troll or not...I believe the O/P's comment derived from the Elvira Arellano case in which an illegal alien Mexican woman that has standing deportation orders since 2003 is holed up in a church and ICE is reluctant to carry out the deportation due to political repercussions. This case does give the impression that Hispanics that become a "cause celebre" are somehow immune from deportation after breaking numerous laws. Even though this is an old story...she (Arellano) still hasn't been deported. Does anyone see the irony in what the O/P is trying to convey?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/c...chi-photo-front

BTW I don't believe the O/P has a leg to stand on. While I may sympathize...there are things they should have done long ago to rectify their situation, but didn't. They pretty much made their bed they have to sleep in.

[nancyk 0]

You can't go and cry now because you didn't take care of business in the 5 YEARS you have been married! Tell us the rest of the story.....Why didn't you adjust his status like everybody else does?

There was no paperwork to file to "take care of business". Our only option was wait out the 10 year bar or live in another country.

[MrMrsKnight 0]

A waiver could've helped you a lot! That are a lot of people in this forum that entered the US illegaly/ overstayed their visas.... they all file waivers.

Or maybe if he had married you, returned home, and applied for a K3 visa or AOS (i think), he'd be with you right now.

Anyway, I hope you can sort things out and I hope you find enough strength to deal with this situation.

[Mary Lou 682]

Well...waiting for an immigration law to change is like waiting for Hell to freeze over.

Well said Karen

Hoping or waiting for an immigration law to change in your favor is like living in a dream world.

[Nonie 2]

Hmmm.... being that I'm not a rocket scientist even I was able to find what was needed to just do the research to find out what forms should be needed just to get my wife here and allow her to stay. I did all of that BEFORE we were even married.

I hope that your "husband" is deported and placed on the ban list for re-entry due to your STUPIDITY and over-site. I'm also a former active duty military member. The fact that you go out of your way to state such means you ALREADY have an idea of what government paperwork looks like.

Get over it and get YOUR ### in gear to get something done. Stop whining like a child and stand up like a woman. If all you know how to do is a WEAK attempt for public sympathy please get on with your life. The fact that you also go out of your way to mention that your husband is not of a certain race type shows that your a racist and might as well join the KKK and put on the robes and hood.

If I seems come across as harsh, GOOD, because this is not the forum you need to whine about what you should have done as the USC. If your "husband" is a former hockey player then what kept him from being able to afford the required fee. Even the lowest of professional hockey players can afford the $1000 needed with a portion of a single months pay. Furthermore, just by following the link you provided, a useless one nonetheless, only show someone by that name having played. Chasing down more information, NHL rosters and such, show NO player named Vitali Kuznetsov being on any of the rosters from 1997-2004, at least with the searches I did. The only hockey player even mentioned with the name of Kuznetsov is Maxim playing for the Red Wings. I even did a search of the Russian data bases.

This is a link to a website which tracks the names of ALL NHL players: http://www.legendsofhockey.net:8080/Legend...yName.jsp?let=K

NOW please tell all of the facts rather than placing blame.

[mrc 0]

You can't go and cry now because you didn't take care of business in the 5 YEARS you have been married! Tell us the rest of the story.....Why didn't you adjust his status like everybody else does?

There was no paperwork to file to "take care of business". Our only option was wait out the 10 year bar or live in another country.

So what's the problem? You knew the risks and you knew he could be deported at any time. You act as if some kind of injustice has been done. I must be totally missing the point. To play the victim role, some sort of injustice has to have been committed. I don't see one here...I'm really sorry that your husband got deported, but that's the risk you knew going into the relationship. You knew he could be sent away at any time because it's the law since he was facing a 10-year bar.

[ILIKEALLCAPS 0]

Guys, be nice now. As we all know, we're all anxiously awaiting legislative change that would allow a person in the United States of America to adjust from one sort of status (say....overstay on some sort of employment visa, or marriage, or something) to another. (let's call that one "conditional permanent resident.")

Wouldn't it be great if some sort of system already was in place for such a thing? Just imagine how wonderful it would be to be able to fall in love with someone, marry them, deal with immigration, and not have to worry about flying under the radar. What would be absolutely best would be if you could still do this "change of status" thing even if you'd had some kind of hijinx happen before. Oh well, we'll all just have to dream.

(yep, that's right, sarcasm.....er....excuse me......SARCASM works both ways)

I'm a vet. I'm not all that eager to go out and break laws to get what I want. I'm especially not eager to do so at the advice of a lawyer. Fire the #######, then bust your ### making phone calls, emailing congresspeople and senators, your governor, friends, family, judges. If this is truly worth such a stink then raise a major stink over it.....but do it in the right forum. Wow, it sucks your husband is starting to be deported. I can't do shite about it. You can. Do it. Don't waste your time on here unless you're doing your research to get him back. Oh, and hire an attorney that knows what the ** he's talking about. You're an adult, act like one. Accept the fact you screwed up, make all the appropriate apologies, get your husband back, then shut up and go away.

[Fandango 1,440]

You can't go and cry now because you didn't take care of business in the 5 YEARS you have been married! Tell us the rest of the story.....Why didn't you adjust his status like everybody else does?

There was no paperwork to file to "take care of business". Our only option was wait out the 10 year bar or live in another country.

So what's the problem? You knew the risks and you knew he could be deported at any time. You act as if some kind of injustice has been done. I must be totally missing the point. To play the victim role, some sort of injustice has to have been committed. I don't see one here...I'm really sorry that your husband got deported, but that's the risk you knew going into the relationship. You knew he could be sent away at any time because it's the law since he was facing a 10-year bar.

Bout sums it up....

[mRx 16]

You rise above the crowd in INSITE and ability to percieve anger and sarcasm.

seems like you had a good christmas, cuz someone put a tad too much rum in your egg nog. This makes no sense. What you initially said was very racist. Trying to retract what you said and chalk it up to sarcasism is pointless. VJers are smarter than that. A simple "im sorry im an idiot" would have sufficed.

[Jenn! 918]

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Edited December 26, 2006 by jenn3539

[rebeccajo 14]

Well, can we the good people of VJ rise above this?

Nancy, the people of VJ have managed to navigate the system. You say you've watched this board for a while. If that's so then I think you would have realized long ago that you had a problem, and that the advise you were given by your attorney was inaccurate.

Also you should realize that because the members here have managed to traverse the system while enduring separations from their loved ones, there will not be a lot of sympathy the 'love' argument. We've all been there and done that.

As regards sarcasm or other 'personality' type-styles, when you are new to a message board you need to clarify your statements. And you need to apologize if you make a faux paus and wish to remain welcome in the community. It's just common courtesy.

It's Tuesday morning and it's back to business. Get yourself to a COMPETENT immigration lawyer TODAY. Your husband's deportation can be halted but it's going to take a court order.

Edited December 26, 2006 by rebeccajo

[one...two...tree 2,762]

First of all want to let you folks know the Non-Hispanic comment is SARCASM. A local news station was notified about our situation and when they talked to me they were on the verge of hanging up until they found out we were not hispanic. That is a sad fact of society since 9/11. We have become negative against certain racial groups. My personal belief is I am extremly lucky to have been fated by God to have been born in the US and I don't have any arrogance with regard to my stroke of luck. It certainly was not up to me or in my control where I was born. This is not my first marriage and my kids are of hispanic desent.

What happened in this case prior to our meeting was very well meaning friends of the team he was playing for filed a form with then INS which had to do with tourism and not employement. At the time he did not speak or write English. Forms were filed on his behalf without the proper fee's, signatures etc. I am sure none of this was malicious. For those who know and understand what happens when you accumulate over a year out of status it ends up being a 10 year bar to re-entry. There is no going back and filing the correct form now.

Coulda, shoulda, woulda...is marx-nix here. We shoudn't have met, fallen in love or gotten married and we did. We got married knowing that there would not be an immigration benefit but we were on love. We thought he would go back when he was given voluntary departure and we did not have the will to leave each other for an unknown period of time. At the time I had a school age child to support so taking off to follow love in Belarus was hardly an option at that time. Love does not always conquer all.

According to our immigration laws... you are required to have your romatic life in order and file certain paperwork PRIOR to falling in love and getting married. Its a what comes first the chicken or the egg. We unfortunately met and fell in love without checking with Uncle Sam as most Americans do. On our attorneys advice and we got second opinions we waited it out hoping for a law change. There were a couple things in the hopper but since 9/11 no positive immigration legislation has passed. Which is why I use SARCASM in discussing hispanic issue. Saudi's enter through Canada, fly into World Trade Center and we as a Nation are "fed up" with hispanics.... makes perfect sense to me !

With regard to the "HIT AND RUN POST"... i have been a little busy with my situation given the Homeland Security Team wouldn't tell me where my husband was for 3 days. They have him in custody in Lumpkin Georgia 10 hours drive time from our home. Didn't have a laptop to check in on what you folks might reply prior to this. I am not drumming up sympathy... perhaps someone can learn something from this. As one of you pointed out NOT EVERYONE IS FOCUSED ON IMMIGRATION PAPERWORK while they are in the middle of a courtships.

At this point we can file the I130 and although it should provide a Visa he is barred from re-entry for 10 years so it will do us little good. What we did for 5 years was wait because in our situation that was really all we could do.

I'm sorry you're going through this. I would like to believe that a judge would consider all these circumstances you've mentioned before deciding the fate of your husband's status here in the states.

[Joey559 1]

You can't go and cry now because you didn't take care of business in the 5 YEARS you have been married! Tell us the rest of the story.....Why didn't you adjust his status like everybody else does?

There was no paperwork to file to "take care of business". Our only option was wait out the 10 year bar or live in another country.

So what's the problem? You knew the risks and you knew he could be deported at any time. You act as if some kind of injustice has been done. I must be totally missing the point. To play the victim role, some sort of injustice has to have been committed. I don't see one here...I'm really sorry that your husband got deported, but that's the risk you knew going into the relationship. You knew he could be sent away at any time because it's the law since he was facing a 10-year bar.

I agree 150% - You broke the law. Black and white. If you came looking for sympathy or mutual outrage over your 'plight' you came to the wrong place. In case you haven't noticed this site is to help those looking to bring and keep their loved ones here LAWFULLY.

Good luck with sorting out this mess...but keep in mind you made it yourself.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

My husband originally came here LEGALLY on an H1b VISA to play professional Hockey, in Sep 1998. We have been married 5 years.

And then the story changes:

What happened in this case prior to our meeting was very well meaning friends of the team he was playing for filed a form with then INS which had to do with tourism and not employement. At the time he did not speak or write English. Forms were filed on his behalf without the proper fee's, signatures etc. I am sure none of this was malicious. For those who know and understand what happens when you accumulate over a year out of status it ends up being a 10 year bar to re-entry. There is no going back and filing the correct form now.

How exactly did that H1B that he came here on in September of 1998 turn into a tourist visa?

Ban on re-entry? That only applies if he left. As long as he stayed here upon marrying you, you guys still could have filed the I-130/I-485. He just could not have left until after he adjusted status. An overstay - even of a year or more - does not bar anyone from adjusting status upon marriage to a USC. Besides, if he came on an H1B (which is typically good for 3 years) in Sept 1998, then he would have been in status until Sept 2001. Seeing that you claim to be married to this guy for the past 5 years, you would have had to have gotten married in, well, 2001. How does one fit more than a year of unlawful presence into this time-span?

There's something still missing here...

Edited December 26, 2006 by ET-US2004

[Dr_LHA 3]

Besides, if he came on an H1B (which is typically good for 3 years)

H-1B can be valid for up to 6 years if renewed however.