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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Spain
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I live in Wisconsin but my local field office is in St. Paul Minnesota, I will be there pretty soon for my interview. In the USCIS website I found the following:

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Naturalization Ceremonies

The St. Paul Field Office conducts Judicial Ceremonies throughout the year in accordance with the court calendar. Same-day administrative ceremonies are conducted for western Wisconsin residents on a monthly basis.

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Doing a search in this forum, I found that depending on who the Director of the office is, sometimes they let you have your ceremony the same day of the interview, the statement seems to be in agreement. What I do not quite understand is the "monthly basis" part, what could it mean?

1) They do it once a month, and if you are lucky to be there that day you can do it?

2) They conduct once a month interviews for WI residents, so if you pass you can do it?

3) Are Judicial ceremonies, same as Administrative? What's the difference?

My trip to St Paul, takes 3 hrs each way. With the snow and ice covered roads, not looking forward to it. So imagine how much help would be if I do not have to come back again for the ceremony. If it was summer time I wouldn't care at all, happy to wait my turn.

Thanks!

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Spain
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Your best bet is to ask them for a same day oath, and you have to see if they agree with it. And they are the same oath.

Thank you for replying, so they are the same oath, good!

I was going to ask (and beg) to begin with, even before finding out about the same day oath possibilities. To be honest, the weather conditions have me more worried than the interview itself. I had a couple close calls already driving in bad conditions, that's why I started the process back in March hoping to be done much sooner, but hey... when you deal with the government anything can happen.

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Judicial ceremonies, are not the same as Administrative ones

Judicial ceremonies: are the ones which are done in case of a name change.[ will be done at the fedral court]

Administrative ones: performed by uscis staff

AOS

day 1 -- 04/11/2012-- package sent to Chicago

day 2 -- 04/12/2012-- package was received.

day 43-- 05/23/2012-- Notice for an interview is received for 06/26 @ 2pm

day 63-- 06/12/2012-- Received a Text & email for an update- Card production EAD/AP

day 77-- 06/26/2012-- interview / approved on the spot.

day 86-- 07/05/2012-- Received my GC in the mail.

ROC

day 1 -- 04/07/2014 -- ROC Package delivered to VSC

day 16 -- 04/23/2014 -- Walk-in Bio.

day 197 -- 10/20/2014-- Approval Letter received dated 10/16/2014

day 202 -- 10/25/2014-- GC received

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Judicial ceremonies, are not the same as Administrative ones

Judicial ceremonies: are the ones which are done in case of a name change.[ will be done at the fedral court]

Administrative ones: performed by uscis staff

Thank you for clarifying that. I do not need to change my name so I am good.

I appreciate your input, and I should have been a bit more patient. In today's mail I got a "reminder" notice of my upcoming interview, that includes a separate note saying the the oath ceremony will take place at 2:00pm the same day of my interview (if approved of course).

Yay! I see an end to my journey!

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wish you all the best :D

AOS

day 1 -- 04/11/2012-- package sent to Chicago

day 2 -- 04/12/2012-- package was received.

day 43-- 05/23/2012-- Notice for an interview is received for 06/26 @ 2pm

day 63-- 06/12/2012-- Received a Text & email for an update- Card production EAD/AP

day 77-- 06/26/2012-- interview / approved on the spot.

day 86-- 07/05/2012-- Received my GC in the mail.

ROC

day 1 -- 04/07/2014 -- ROC Package delivered to VSC

day 16 -- 04/23/2014 -- Walk-in Bio.

day 197 -- 10/20/2014-- Approval Letter received dated 10/16/2014

day 202 -- 10/25/2014-- GC received

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Judicial ceremonies, are not the same as Administrative ones

Judicial ceremonies: are the ones which are done in case of a name change.[ will be done at the fedral court]

Administrative ones: performed by uscis staff

What i meant by they are the same is that both you end up being a US citizen. The applicant didn't indicate he was changing his name that's why i didn't go I'm details. But what you said is true.

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We were in the same boat as you, Wisconsin residents. Live closer to the Milwaukee office, but assigned to St. Paul. The newest office manager, if she is still there was offering same day oaths, but only if you received your interview in the morning. Stepdaughter received an afternoon appointment so had to go back three weeks later to get that piece of paper.

And I-94 was covered with snow, so left four hours earlier. That was a very long day, ceremony was held in the basement. Filled out the back of that oath ceremony with those 8 questions, handed that to a woman, dropped in her green card in what looked like a large trash can. Sat down, listened to some incorrect information as to what you have to do after you receive your certificate, watched a video on a 27" TV, she stood up to recite the oath, handled her certificate, but I sure read it first to make sure no errors were on it.

Wondered why I took some very nice photos of her, just used a cheap ink jet printer for her biometrics photo that looked terrible, got her certificate, than that long drive home.

St. Paul office does have some nice amenities, a large parking lot, public restrooms, and a drinking fountain. All of our biometric appointments, six of them were at the Milwaukee office. Senator Feingold started that monthly oath ceremonies, but for just residents of Wisconsin, heard that if you are from Minnesota, may have to wait for months. Ha, leave your Packers jacket at home.

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What i meant by they are the same is that both you end up being a US citizen. The applicant didn't indicate he was changing his name that's why i didn't go I'm details. But what you said is true.

Yes, you are right I didn't give specifics, so you were right. Both ceremonies serve the same purpose, but the clarification is helpful for those wanting to change their name. Thank you both again.

We were in the same boat as you, Wisconsin residents. Live closer to the Milwaukee office, but assigned to St. Paul. The newest office manager, if she is still there was offering same day oaths, but only if you received your interview in the morning. Stepdaughter received an afternoon appointment so had to go back three weeks later to get that piece of paper.

And I-94 was covered with snow, so left four hours earlier. That was a very long day, ceremony was held in the basement. Filled out the back of that oath ceremony with those 8 questions, handed that to a woman, dropped in her green card in what looked like a large trash can. Sat down, listened to some incorrect information as to what you have to do after you receive your certificate, watched a video on a 27" TV, she stood up to recite the oath, handled her certificate, but I sure read it first to make sure no errors were on it.

Wondered why I took some very nice photos of her, just used a cheap ink jet printer for her biometrics photo that looked terrible, got her certificate, than that long drive home.

St. Paul office does have some nice amenities, a large parking lot, public restrooms, and a drinking fountain. All of our biometric appointments, six of them were at the Milwaukee office. Senator Feingold started that monthly oath ceremonies, but for just residents of Wisconsin, heard that if you are from Minnesota, may have to wait for months. Ha, leave your Packers jacket at home.

I also had to go to Milwaukee for biometrics, for me was another 3 hrs drive as I live in the center of WI. I guess the ceremony is not going to be an event for the press, LOL. We all can not have that "movie perfect" one that we see on the news sometimes, like those held on the 4th of July. Given my apprehension to drive with bad weather, having it done is what matter most. I am very grateful that it is possible (of curse I have to pass first).

Thank you all again.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Tunisia
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Yes, you are right I didn't give specifics, so you were right. Both ceremonies serve the same purpose, but the clarification is helpful for those wanting to change their name. Thank you both again.

I also had to go to Milwaukee for biometrics, for me was another 3 hrs drive as I live in the center of WI. I guess the ceremony is not going to be an event for the press, LOL. We all can not have that "movie perfect" one that we see on the news sometimes, like those held on the 4th of July. Given my apprehension to drive with bad weather, having it done is what matter most. I am very grateful that it is possible (of curse I have to pass first).

Thank you all again.

You are welcome buddy, Good luck, we are almost at the end of the tunnel (At last lol).

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Colombia
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Did you receive your interview letter yet?

Wife's oath ceremony was held at 8:00 am on a Tuesday morning and she was on call, so didn't get home until 3:00 AM, had to hurry, shower and dress to be there at 7:30 AM just to get her certificate. She was real happy until we got back in the car and realized if anything happened to her mom, she couldn't get back into the country.

But already had her US passport application ready, took care of that as soon as we got back. Still wonder why they don't make you sign that certificate in front of an officer. She signed it at home, ha made her practice on a blank sheet of paper first, or another 400 bucks and a seven month wait. Only to be sent off to the DOS, wondering if we would ever see it again.

They trust their agents for everything, except making a copy of your certificate. She did get her US passport in eleven days, her certificate came back in a brown paper envelop in 15 days.

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