Thoughts on keeping families together (and a possible petition)

[Jamie & Izzy 98]

thanks so much Izzy....i feel bad for being so offended, but i cannot hold my emotions back on the issue.....I hope more people can sympathize...

thanks so much Izzy....i feel bad for being so offended, but i cannot hold my emotions back on the issue.....I hope more people can sympathize...

Don't feel bad,I have my fair share of negative rude people on this site,we just want to be with our loved ones ,and I know Saudi is especially complicated ! Please don't let this get to you ,I would spend nights awake unable to sleep just reading stories on VJ ,your case is especially hard I know that

Edited December 16, 2013 by Ryan H

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

Having a child is a choice and most adults know how not to have a child at a time that is inappropriate. Because you choose to have a child while you are still separated is your decision and you could have waited if being together for the moment was really that important,. ( At least that is what adults should do )

[Jamie & Izzy 98]

Having a child is a choice and most adults know how not to have a child at a time that is inappropriate. Because you choose to have a child while you are still separated is your decision and you could have waited if being together for the moment was really that important,. ( At least that is what adults should do )

Yes it is a choice but sometimes it's just happens ! Why are we even discussing this now ?!

I have noticed allot of accusation and ignorance on this site,we are all from one planet yet try to make it complicated for each other ... Very sad .

Izzy

Edited December 16, 2013 by Ryan H

[aaron2020 11,651]

Yes it is a choice but sometimes it's just happens ! Why are we even discussing this now ?!

I have noticed allot of accusation and ignorance on this site,we are all from one planet yet try to make it complicated for each other ... Very sad .

Izzy

So less complicated is what you want.

A different opinion from yours is ignorant?

Adults can use condoms, the pill, etc. to prevent pregnancies. Adults should know that not using protection can result in pregnancies. When adults make the choice to engage in unprotected sex, they knowingly risk getting pregnant.

Accidents do happen. However, no one I know have ever accidentally had intercourse. Having sex is a choice with consequences.

Getting pregnant during the immigration process and then lamenting how the immigration process prevents the father from being there at birth is bupkis.

Edited December 16, 2013 by aaron2020

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

Because it seems that having a child alone is one of the excuses to shortcut the process , To me it is a choice they made. Sometimes it just happens was good back in the 50's in modern society that is just a weak excuse. There are many methods of birth control ( including not having sex ) to prevent unwanted children or children born at undesirable times

[aaron2020 11,651]

If people want the father to be there for the birth, then practice safe sex until the immigrant is here with a green card.

There is a reason why the US rejects pregnancies as a reason to expedite. The choice to not practice safe sex does not constitute an emergency for the US to quickly reunite the couple.

[lluvialluvita 2]

oh my God, i cant believe how ignorant people can be. have you never heard of getting pregnant over a spiral or while still on birth control, not all bodies are the same, i cant believe how nosy, and ignorant, and arrogant people can be. I am a medical student, Ive worked in germany in the hospital as a midwife, I know what Im talking about, so before you start making yourself look really really smart, a bit too smart, do your research. nothing is 100% . I predict someone now to come up, and show me how smart they are when they propose that if thats what happened we shouldve aborted......lets get into all kinds of dumb discussions and leave the important topic, how about that???

[lluvialluvita 2]

aaron2020, you go back to assumption all over again, so how do you know we started the immigration process then got pregnant????? youre assuming.....how do you know we even were planning on coming to the U.S and doing visa papers???? your assuming. none of your assumptions....are correct.

[HK12 273]

I think if a petition were to get sent out, i think it should be made about/for those couples that have children together and are separated....i don't feel that this process is as difficult for those that dont have children involved. I think that the ones that are seeing their children go through hardship because of the process or see their separated partner aching for his/her child because of the process, feel more the need to change the process in a manner.

I didn't want to comment on this topic, as it seems a rather "heated" discussion and I did not come on an IR1/CR1, BUT... Dear Iluvialluvita, how can you generalize that it is easier on people who do not have kids to go through this process? Have you been in their shoes, and do you know how much they are suffering too from the separation? Just as you say that we do not know your situation, neither do you know other people's situations. If you are implying that people who have kids should get their visas faster, that would mean that those without kids would have to wait longer... and then everyone would just try to get pregnant... which would lead the whole system ad absurdum.

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I wish all of you good luck with the process and to those of you who are pregnant an easy delivery and lots of happiness with your kids.

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

I would put out the arguement that those of us too old to have children have fewer years together due to less life span and should have priority over the younger ones. ( makes as much sense as giving baby factories a fast pass )

[angeldaemon13 42]

Having a child is a choice and most adults know how not to have a child at a time that is inappropriate. Because you choose to have a child while you are still separated is your decision and you could have waited if being together for the moment was really that important,. ( At least that is what adults should do )

So because she didn't plan it and by your standards, she is being selfish so maybe she should terminate? I am sorry but this is garbage. I was on birth control and still became pregnant. it happens. Life happens.

[angeldaemon13 42]

aaron2020, you go back to assumption all over again, so how do you know we started the immigration process then got pregnant????? youre assuming.....how do you know we even were planning on coming to the U.S and doing visa papers???? your assuming. none of your assumptions....are correct.

Hold your head up, dont let mindless people break your spirit. i think your OP was fantastic. We all have stories, we all have situations and all have circumstances. Unfortunately, yes, we are bound by govt policies and bureaucratic red tape. One would hope immigration Reform will fix such things but until then, we hold together, push forward and in the end, perseverance will prevail.

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

Hold your head up, dont let mindless people break your spirit. i think your OP was fantastic. We all have stories, we all have situations and all have circumstances. Unfortunately, yes, we are bound by govt policies and bureaucratic red tape. One would hope immigration Reform will fix such things but until then, we hold together, push forward and in the end, perseverance will prevail.

Immigration reform is meant to push the illegal cheaters to the front of the line just like the VWP people get to do

Edited December 16, 2013 by NigeriaorBust

[Asia 2,498]

So because she didn't plan it and by your standards, she is being selfish so maybe she should terminate? I am sorry but this is garbage. I was on birth control and still became pregnant. it happens. Life happens.

Who said anything about terminating???

But just because people get pregnant, it doesn't give them right to expedite the whole process.

There are thousand of people who have their SO in the US. They all have to take the immigration path. They all are in the big queue to get to the US.

If the pregnancy would be a reason to expedite, every woman (who can) would get pregnant.

And the queue of the expedite cases would be as long as it is now. So still no expedite cases.

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

If having a baby while together is important there is one sure fire way NOT to get pregnant but it means the parties involved have to take responsibility and have self control