B2 for girlfriend at BKK embassy

[T & K 1]

You and your friend worked at the embassy. Both of your G Fs were denied the first time. Each of you had different circumstances. Both G F had to find a way to present the cases again. I cant think of anything I have ever heard of or seen that equals that.

That should be a huge red flag to people about how to apply.

I think you need to understand that other people will read these posts. They may not know she is now talking about a year ago. They may not understand when she says for example " my husband was my sponsor". She didn't have a husband at that time nor should she have had a sponsor.

You seem to want me or others to believe your reasoning for the submission of the 864 was valid and correct. Neither is true.

Ning,

K and I applied once for a B2 travel visa and were appoved (with a 10 year visa) the first time. For all of those reading, we did this before we were married just to be clear. My friend and his gf were in a similar situation and applied and were denied the first time and had to resubmit. My friends gf was denied because they asked why they weren't applying for a K visa and due to a misunderstanding between her and the CO it was denied. The most important thing is for the applicant to be very clear with the CO why they are not applying for a K visa and justify that they will be returning to Thailand. No red flags here, I submitted the I-864 and included invitation letters from my parents in the U.S. because we had read on other forums in the past that it helped. Talking to the CO about the process they said the key thing is to show that the applicant has ties to Thailand. In my case, K was a Masters student but wasn't working so we provided the I-864 to show that I would be funding the trip. If they ask why a person is requesting a B2 vs a K visa they need to articulate to the CO their honest intentions and explain why the are only dating and not engaged. You are correct that an I-864 is not required but please do not think that it does not help because it does. The more information you provide during the interview the better your chances of a favorable decision.

[Ning 619]

Ning,

K and I applied once for a B2 travel visa and were appoved (with a 10 year visa) the first time. For all of those reading, we did this before we were married just to be clear. My friend and his gf were in a similar situation and applied and were denied the first time and had to resubmit. My friends gf was denied because they asked why they weren't applying for a K visa and due to a misunderstanding between her and the CO it was denied. The most important thing is for the applicant to be very clear with the CO why they are not applying for a K visa and justify that they will be returning to Thailand. No red flags here, I submitted the I-864 and included invitation letters from my parents in the U.S. because we had read on other forums in the past that it helped. Talking to the CO about the process they said the key thing is to show that the applicant has ties to Thailand. In my case, K was a Masters student but wasn't working so we provided the I-864 to show that I would be funding the trip. If they ask why a person is requesting a B2 vs a K visa they need to articulate to the CO their honest intentions and explain why the are only dating and not engaged. You are correct that an I-864 is not required but please do not think that it does not help because it does. The more information you provide during the interview the better your chances of a favorable decision.

Its is simply incorrect to submit the 864 in a tourist visa case. There is no requirement to do so. Doing so simply indicates ignorance of the procedures. The 864 isn't about who will pay for a trip. It is a legal support form used for people wanting to become legal residents of the USA.

These B 2 applications are usually decided long before the interview. This means the submission of the 864 could easily be the reason for a denial. It is not exactly true that providing any info such as the 864 or other such info will help. It just might open Pandoras box resulting in a denial.

[Karee 4,190]

Ning,

You are correct that an I-864 is not required but please do not think that it does not help because it does. The more information you provide during the interview the better your chances of a favorable decision.

If I was a CO and a tourist visa applicant came in for an interview and gave me an I-864 filled out by a USC, I would deny the visa based on that alone. In my mind that's almost as bad as walking in there with a completed I-485 and telling them you plan on adjusting status.

[Thane 8]

so an end to the thread, i guess. I sent her the thread, and she read through and spoke to many of her friends who also recently applied for visas for other countries. I also let her decide on how we would approach it, whether to mention myself, or to do it by herself, and after weighing the pros and cons, she decided it was best to be honest and mention me, although I only provided an invitation letter, she was denied.

she said her experience wasn't the same as others that were there. apparently they have Thai people doing pre-interviews or something, and they had only asked her where she had planned to go as opposed to others who they asked many questions of. In addition to this, we had requested the interview to be in Thai, however the consular officer only spoke in Thai. Even when she attempted to change it to English, the consular officer still spoke Thai, which is rather strange since she had mentioned that the Thai spoken was not the greatest. She said they asked her many questions, but almost everything was about me until the end when they repeatedly asked her if she had a kid, and as soon as she said "no," multiple times they gave her the denial letter with the failure to prove sufficient ties.

this whole process has definitely brought us together more, and she has suggested that we try for the k-1 visa. so that will be our next adventure.

thank you again for everyone who replied to this thread with your advice, it is certainly appreciated.

[slowlyman 118]

Sorry it didn't work out, but you are in good company. And now you have the K-1 process to look forward to.

[Karee 4,190]

so an end to the thread, i guess. I sent her the thread, and she read through and spoke to many of her friends who also recently applied for visas for other countries. I also let her decide on how we would approach it, whether to mention myself, or to do it by herself, and after weighing the pros and cons, she decided it was best to be honest and mention me, although I only provided an invitation letter, she was denied.

she said her experience wasn't the same as others that were there. apparently they have Thai people doing pre-interviews or something, and they had only asked her where she had planned to go as opposed to others who they asked many questions of. In addition to this, we had requested the interview to be in Thai, however the consular officer only spoke in Thai. Even when she attempted to change it to English, the consular officer still spoke Thai, which is rather strange since she had mentioned that the Thai spoken was not the greatest. She said they asked her many questions, but almost everything was about me until the end when they repeatedly asked her if she had a kid, and as soon as she said "no," multiple times they gave her the denial letter with the failure to prove sufficient ties.

this whole process has definitely brought us together more, and she has suggested that we try for the k-1 visa. so that will be our next adventure.

thank you again for everyone who replied to this thread with your advice, it is certainly appreciated.

Yeah the tourist visa thing is crazy. I've seen people get one that I thought would never get one. And I've also seen people get denied that had a slam dunk case. I have no idea what their criteria is. I suspect they have a 10 baht coin they flip in the air and if it's heads you get the visa, tails you don't. Looks like your girl got tails.