Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/05/obama-flags-nelson-mandela_n_4394988.html

But not for Margaret Thatcher. Who, together with Ronald Reagan, brought down the USSR, ended the threat of intercontinental thermonuclear war, freed 200 million people in what are now 15 separate nations to enjoy free speech, their own religion and pursue their own lives, saved Trillions of $$$ in military spending (the "peace dividend") not to mention what she accomplished for her own country...

Obama is racist...and sexist.

[Bugs 455]

So first we have a thread complaining that we are flying half staff, now we have a thread complaining we are not doing enough half staff.

Tell you what, let's just trim all the poles down halfway and perpetually fly it from there. Would satisfy everybody.

[lostinblue 1,989]

I guess I can lower it a bit

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

So first we have a thread complaining that we are flying half staff, now we have a thread complaining we are not doing enough half staff.

Tell you what, let's just trim all the poles down halfway and perpetually fly it from there. Would satisfy everybody.

Tell you what...

We all get an opinion and free speech. If you are against free speech and opinion, then just say so. I support the right of the other guy to have a different opinion than me and post it here.

Edited December 7, 2013 by Gary and Alla

[Bugs 455]

Tell you what...

We all get an opinion and free speech. If you are against free speech and opinion, then just say so. I support the right of the other guy to have a different opinion than me and post it here.

And I support my right to complain about what people are complaining about.

Edited December 7, 2013 by Leon & Mylen

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

And I support my right to complain about what people are complaining about.

Then complain. I can't stop you.

Where were all these Nelson Mandela supporters when he was in Prison? The EU has been working to get Yulia Tymoshenko released from prison for 3 years. Do you know who she is? Do you think we will ever fly our flags at half staff for her? She is white, she is beautiful... and she is a woman.

This is racist, pandering BS for a man no one did jack s%t for when he was imprisoned.

HE WAS IN PRISON FOR 27 YEARS!!!!!!!!! Who did anything for him then???????????????

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

So first we have a thread complaining that we are flying half staff, now we have a thread complaining we are not doing enough half staff.

Tell you what, let's just trim all the poles down halfway and perpetually fly it from there. Would satisfy everybody.

PS The guy who started the other thread was wrong.

We need to fly the flag at half staff anytime anyone dies from anything

[Ryan H 3,812]

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[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Then complain. I can't stop you.

Where were all these Nelson Mandela supporters when he was in Prison? The EU has been working to get Yulia Tymoshenko released from prison for 3 years. Do you know who she is? Do you think we will ever fly our flags at half staff for her? She is white, she is beautiful... and she is a woman.

This is racist, pandering BS for a man no one did jack s%t for when he was imprisoned.

HE WAS IN PRISON FOR 27 YEARS!!!!!!!!! Who did anything for him then???????????????

Actually there were plenty of supporters. Who doesn't remember "free Nelson Mandela" tee shirts.

Why does it matter if the flags fly at full staff, half staff or no staff. Seems like such a waste of energy to argue about it.

Of course noone has started a slew of "Mandela is a terrorist" threads. I thank for your restraint.

Edited December 7, 2013 by Papa Lazarou

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Actually there were plenty of supporters. Who doesn't remember "free Nelson Mandela" tee shirts.

Why does it matter if the flags fly at full staff, half staff or no staff. Seems like such a waste of energy to argue about it.

Of course noone has started a slew of "Mandela is a terrorist" threads. I thank for your restraint.

I have not, and will not, say a bad word about Nelson Mandela.

Free Mandela T-shirts? You mean they were Mandela T-shirts and they were FREE! Sounds like something Obama would do. Seriously, you think T-shirts had something to do with it? They sold 250,000 T-shirts so they better free the guy?

What I said, and I stand by, is that NONE of these jazzbos ever did an effin' thing for Mandela when he was in prison. Couldn't possibly care less, I bet they wouldn't wear a Mandela T-shirt even if it were FREE. These same guys hung him out to dry. For 27 years! Jeezum, empires can be built and destroyed in 27 years! They couldn't apply pressure to get a great man released from prison...in 27 years????!!!!!!!!! Even our hostages in Iran were only held as long as we had Carter as President, 444 days No SEAL Team 6 mission?

This is pure racial pandering. It is only 1 click better than when Hillary Clinton spoke to black women with the fake "black accent" because at least Obama is half black himself.

Why does it matter? Because there is a specific "flag code" which probably means nothing to Brits who got their arses kicked out by the USA...twice...but there is a reason that the flag is only lowered for certain occasions and there is NO provision to lower it for the death of a foreign head of state. Even if they are black.

Doing so is racist and I am against racism.

Good news? Obama was too young to develop a "Free Mandela" website, or he would probably still be in prison.

[Bugs 455]

I have not, and will not, say a bad word about Nelson Mandela.

Free Mandela T-shirts? You mean they were Mandela T-shirts and they were FREE! Sounds like something Obama would do. Seriously, you think T-shirts had something to do with it? They sold 250,000 T-shirts so they better free the guy?

What I said, and I stand by, is that NONE of these jazzbos ever did an effin' thing for Mandela when he was in prison. Couldn't possibly care less, I bet they wouldn't wear a Mandela T-shirt even if it were FREE. These same guys hung him out to dry. For 27 years! Jeezum, empires can be built and destroyed in 27 years! They couldn't apply pressure to get a great man released from prison...in 27 years????!!!!!!!!! Even our hostages in Iran were only held as long as we had Carter as President, 444 days No SEAL Team 6 mission?

This is pure racial pandering. It is only 1 click better than when Hillary Clinton spoke to black women with the fake "black accent" because at least Obama is half black himself.

Why does it matter? Because there is a specific "flag code" which probably means nothing to Brits who got their arses kicked out by the USA...twice...but there is a reason that the flag is only lowered for certain occasions and there is NO provision to lower it for the death of a foreign head of state. Even if they are black.

Doing so is racist and I am against racism.

Good news? Obama was too young to develop a "Free Mandela" website, or he would probably still be in prison.

So you're saying we should have sent in a seal team to rescue Mandela?

There was plenty of international pressure to free Mandela, both private and governmental. It was the reason he was freed.

[Peikko 1,575]

What Gary is saying is that the weird American habit of saying things with flags is being abused by a racist president who wants to send a racist message with his flag. A batty idea, but then the OP does have some particularly wacky theories that he feels the need to share with the VJ community.

[Pooky 3,781]

Where were all these Nelson Mandela supporters when he was in Prison?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

For some reason his post reminded me of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

Taking something totally innocuous and turning it into an acid trip.

Edited December 7, 2013 by Papa Lazarou

[Melinda&Lucky 0]

Ok, this is my very first time posting on VJ. I usually read the posts from others to get ideas and just to research the whole visa immigration journey. Reading these particular posts, I stop and ask myself .... Why can't we Stop all the hatred and just try to unite as people with different opinions. No one will agree with any and everything that another person does. This is what makes us unique as a person. Agree to disagree and learn to respect the opinion of others. With that being said, there is a such thing as free speech but there is also a such thing as respect. I can understand people not liking a particular person, there are many people that I don't particularly care for, but I would never be so disrespectful as to say such hurtful and downgrading things about them. I think this whole immigration process is so nerve wrecking and stressful for everyone that it would be good not to have to come to this site for help and comfort to see such disrespectful posts.

Again, this is only my opinion and again I, like everyone else should/have to agree to disagree. There are so much I would like to say about the content of some of these particular posts but I will keep it classy and refrain from engage in this type of disrespectful/demeaning behavior. I know that I will probably get some not so pleasant remarks back but I will be the bigger person and refrain from responding to any negative posts that might come from my response to what I have read here. My mother has always taught me that if you don't have anything nice to say, to keep you mouth closed. She would as tell me when growing up "to each is own." What I like, the next person may not like. We have to learn to respect others and keep it moving.