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http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2013/12/05/obamacare-raises-health-insurance-costs-especially-for-the-young/?partner=yahootix

When the website actually gets fixed, October and November will be remembered as the "Good 'ol Days" of the "Affordable Care Act"

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Many people voted for the kenyan because they thought kenyan kare would give them free healthcare.The kenyan told voters in 2008 that they would not be required to pay for healthcare if they could not afford it...

If more citizens were armed, criminals would think twice about attacking them, Detroit Police Chief James Craig

Florida currently has more concealed-carry permit holders than any other state, with 1,269,021 issued as of May 14, 2014

The liberal elite ... know that the people simply cannot be trusted; that they are incapable of just and fair self-government; that left to their own devices, their society will be racist, sexist, homophobic, and inequitable -- and the liberal elite know how to fix things. They are going to help us live the good and just life, even if they have to lie to us and force us to do it. And they detest those who stand in their way."
- A Nation Of Cowards, by Jeffrey R. Snyder

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Maybe they did. So what? Would they be the first people to vote for someone not knowing what they're getting.

You should stop acting as if you're more politically enlightened than everyone else. You're a partisan, the person who comes along touting to be a hardcore conservative will no doubt have you creaming your pants.

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My Russian wife is so very confused about the American healthcare system...

when they get sick, they just go to the clinic..

Here, they take about $ 400 a month out of my salary., plus we still must pay to go to the doctor, for medicine, and for tests..

She asked me why do they take money every month if we still must pay when we go...

Its a good question, I do not have a good answer..... :-(

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My Russian wife is so very confused about the American healthcare system...

when they get sick, they just go to the clinic..

Here, they take about $ 400 a month out of my salary., plus we still must pay to go to the doctor, for medicine, and for tests..

She asked me why do they take money every month if we still must pay when we go...

Its a good question, I do not have a good answer..... :-(

Capitalism at work. Insurance companies and medical facilities must make a profit.

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Capitalism at work. Insurance companies and medical facilities must make a profit.

So is it bad someone makes a profit

If more citizens were armed, criminals would think twice about attacking them, Detroit Police Chief James Craig

Florida currently has more concealed-carry permit holders than any other state, with 1,269,021 issued as of May 14, 2014

The liberal elite ... know that the people simply cannot be trusted; that they are incapable of just and fair self-government; that left to their own devices, their society will be racist, sexist, homophobic, and inequitable -- and the liberal elite know how to fix things. They are going to help us live the good and just life, even if they have to lie to us and force us to do it. And they detest those who stand in their way."
- A Nation Of Cowards, by Jeffrey R. Snyder

Tavis Smiley: 'Black People Will Have Lost Ground in Every Single Economic Indicator' Under Obama

white-privilege.jpg?resize=318%2C318

Democrats>Socialists>Communists - Same goals, different speeds.

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Profit's not so bad. Making a profit off someone trying to stay alive is questionable whether you see it that way or not.

So a nurse should just take care of you for nothing

If more citizens were armed, criminals would think twice about attacking them, Detroit Police Chief James Craig

Florida currently has more concealed-carry permit holders than any other state, with 1,269,021 issued as of May 14, 2014

The liberal elite ... know that the people simply cannot be trusted; that they are incapable of just and fair self-government; that left to their own devices, their society will be racist, sexist, homophobic, and inequitable -- and the liberal elite know how to fix things. They are going to help us live the good and just life, even if they have to lie to us and force us to do it. And they detest those who stand in their way."
- A Nation Of Cowards, by Jeffrey R. Snyder

Tavis Smiley: 'Black People Will Have Lost Ground in Every Single Economic Indicator' Under Obama

white-privilege.jpg?resize=318%2C318

Democrats>Socialists>Communists - Same goals, different speeds.

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to earn a decent wage is expected...

a profit to run a business is acceptable..

for health insurance executives to earn multi-million dollars every year... is not acceptable when people are dying because they can not afford healthcare.

those dollars factor in to the cost of healthcare... therefore, if you eliminate all health insurance companies there could be several hundred million dollars available for actual health care costs...

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So a nurse should just take care of you for nothing

I didn't say that. Nurses are paid in every country I know of. Even communist nurses. It doesn't have to be all or nothing man.

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to earn a decent wage is expected...

a profit to run a business is acceptable..

for health insurance executives to earn multi-million dollars every year... is not acceptable when people are dying because they can not afford healthcare.

those dollars factor in to the cost of healthcare... therefore, if you eliminate all health insurance companies there could be several hundred million dollars available for actual health care costs...

What about all the lawyers that leach off the system. John edwards and the like. One of our hospitals in my area is the largest employers in the county........ You need to pay these people well to get good talent. It does not matter if it is a ceo of an insurance company or head of a hospital or airplane mfg. You need good talent to manage a business. I know of a Blue cross division that handles most of their claims for their state. Millions if not 10's of millions of dollars flow in every day through the company.You have maybe over 10,000.people employed. IF you did not handle the operation correctly like any other business they could be bankrupt. Just like any other business..... You need the talent to manage a company of this size and you pay what other companies are paying to get this talent. . This website that the kenyan made up by some accounts may cost over a billion dollars , and from what I understand people can enroll but cannot pay for coverage yet. .....What will happen come Jan 1st some one will be in a very bad accident and find out they have NO insurance,,, But we enrolled.....But you are not paid in the plan said the woman at the hospital. How many thousand times will this play out the first month of operation. You do not have a CEO making sure ALL the dots are connected. Just someone you would meet like at the DMV. Telling you sorry you have a bill for $100,000....check or cash sir. You have no insurance.

If more citizens were armed, criminals would think twice about attacking them, Detroit Police Chief James Craig

Florida currently has more concealed-carry permit holders than any other state, with 1,269,021 issued as of May 14, 2014

The liberal elite ... know that the people simply cannot be trusted; that they are incapable of just and fair self-government; that left to their own devices, their society will be racist, sexist, homophobic, and inequitable -- and the liberal elite know how to fix things. They are going to help us live the good and just life, even if they have to lie to us and force us to do it. And they detest those who stand in their way."
- A Nation Of Cowards, by Jeffrey R. Snyder

Tavis Smiley: 'Black People Will Have Lost Ground in Every Single Economic Indicator' Under Obama

white-privilege.jpg?resize=318%2C318

Democrats>Socialists>Communists - Same goals, different speeds.

#DeplorableLivesMatter

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If more citizens were armed, criminals would think twice about attacking them, Detroit Police Chief James Craig

Florida currently has more concealed-carry permit holders than any other state, with 1,269,021 issued as of May 14, 2014

The liberal elite ... know that the people simply cannot be trusted; that they are incapable of just and fair self-government; that left to their own devices, their society will be racist, sexist, homophobic, and inequitable -- and the liberal elite know how to fix things. They are going to help us live the good and just life, even if they have to lie to us and force us to do it. And they detest those who stand in their way."
- A Nation Of Cowards, by Jeffrey R. Snyder

Tavis Smiley: 'Black People Will Have Lost Ground in Every Single Economic Indicator' Under Obama

white-privilege.jpg?resize=318%2C318

Democrats>Socialists>Communists - Same goals, different speeds.

#DeplorableLivesMatter

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To me it is one thing to be required to have car insurance to drive a car because to have a car is a choice (true, most American would say it is not a choice). However it is another thing to be required to have health insurance just because we are alive and US citizens. Basically we have to die to get out of paying for health insurance.

I feel bad for the self employed people because they have to eat all the health cost while most of us only see a portion of the true cost of OBAMA CARE because their employeer eat the rest of the cost.

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