We screwed up and got denied the visa

[Naina01 2]

I think you should seek help from an experienced lawyer.

[Pinkrlion 2,724]

We messed up and answered differently during the interview and was denied the visa. We talked about what we were going to say but I guess she got nervous and forgot most of it. They asked when did your fiancee propose? She answered the day I got off the plane. So I am very disappointed that we have to it all again. They said I can refile the same petition again. That is what I plan to do. Because I was told that if I were to go the Cr-1 Route I would have to get married again, take all new pictures and get all new documents. My question is can i just file the same petition over again? Is there a need for any new papers besides the police record and the martial status papers? Thanks everyone for reading. I am still here spending time with my fiancee while I still can. Next time i will let her go to the interview alone. I felt like if I just let her go alone she would be flying home with me in a week. I am very sad that he denied us the visa because of the living conditions she has to deal with over here. It's like going back in technolgy 100 years.

You will need to look at the dates of your paperwork, as forms are updated periodically. The wrong date on a form will have your petition rejected.

[*Snowdrop* 604]

"We talked about what we were going to say but I guess she got nervous and forgot most of it. They asked when did your fiancee propose? She answered the day I got off the plane. So I am very disappointed that we have to it all again."

No woman usually forgets when her fiance actually proposed to her - so when did you propose and why did you want your fiance to 'remember' another story about it?

[AmyWrites 593]

I think you got denied because you're married.

[clairegie 265]

I am curious as to what you rehearsed. I mean, me and my fiance practiced. Like he would ask me questions about him etc. But were you purposely trying to conceal something? I remember all the interview questions to be fairly easy if you really know your better half. What were the other questions that was asked? Maybe we can figure out the actual reason you were denied based on the answers she gave?

And yes, you can file for the same visa. But before that, you have to figure out what went wrong which led to the denial so you can correct it.

Edited December 5, 2013 by iammrsregi

[akihon 129]

I'm not sure how you could have had to "rehearse the answers" and "get them wrong". Why is there even any rehearsal?

I also think that even if they recognize the ceremonial wedding, you're applying for a K-1, which is an unmarried-but-intending-to-marry visa.

[canadian_wife 1,829]

I am really sorry for your denial. However, I can understand why it happened.

Look at your profile picture, is that one you submitted? It clearly looks like a wedding picutre and not an engagement picture. That is, in many consulates, enough to deny. However, why are you rehearsing answers? And then she got them wrong which probably made her appear nervous.

Please consider reflecting on this process before you refile

good luck

[Jon and Krissy 452]

I asked him why we were denied he said because he is not sure if we are legit. And thanks for the advice but I just cannot go that route. And yes she may be used to the conditions but she would be in better health living with me in the states where I can get her the medical attentions she need. Over here is rough .

'Cannot go that route'??? If you want to be able to be with her, better get married and file for the CR-1 ASAP. Don't ####### around with trying to get a K-1 through a tough embassy.

[Delboy 6]

We messed up and answered differently during the interview and was denied the visa. We talked about what we were going to say but I guess she got nervous and forgot most of it. They asked when did your fiancee propose? She answered the day I got off the plane. So I am very disappointed that we have to it all again. They said I can refile the same petition again. That is what I plan to do. Because I was told that if I were to go the Cr-1 Route I would have to get married again, take all new pictures and get all new documents. My question is can i just file the same petition over again? Is there a need for any new papers besides the police record and the martial status papers? Thanks everyone for reading. I am still here spending time with my fiancee while I still can. Next time i will let her go to the interview alone. I felt like if I just let her go alone she would be flying home with me in a week. I am very sad that he denied us the visa because of the living conditions she has to deal with over here. It's like going back in technolgy 100 years.

Honesty is a best policy...If you are less then truthful then CO are trained to detect inconsistencies in your story and you are likely to get denied. Be honest and truthful if you relationship is real then you will not be denied second time.

[lost_at_sea 995]

Forgetting or having differing proposal stories would certainly be a major red flag to an interviewing officer. It's not the sort of thing folks forget - and not normally a topic a couple would have to rehearse. Most couples don't have to rehearse, full stop (unless it's correcting your husband for the thousandth time that your birthday is the 28th, not the 29th, as I have to do pretty much every time it comes up ).

[Cathi 5,784]

Your story just doesn't add up. Why on earth would you have to,rehearse anything? Either you know each other or you don't. If she forgot the day you got engaged, and you are applying for a fiancé visa,I wouldn't think you were legit either. kW you think it's too much work to have a real wedding ummm..you would have had to get married after she arrived here anyway. I would be pissed if my fiancé didn't want to put the effort into doing whatever he could to make sure we were together. Not to mention you had a ceremony that looks exactly like a wedding.

Edited December 6, 2013 by mimolicious

[Jon and Krissy 452]

Your story just doesn't add up. Why on earth would you have to,rehearse anything? Either you know each other or you don't. If she forgot the day you got engaged, and you are applying for a fiancé visa,I wouldn't think you were legit either. kW you think it's too much work to have a real wedding ummm..you would have had to get married after she arrived here anyway. I would be pissed if my fiancé didn't want to put the effort into doing whatever he could to make sure we were together. Not to mention you had a ceremony that looks exactly like a wedding.

It is possible they made the mistake of cooking up a version of events which sounded more convincing than the truth, for example, if he proposed on the first day, they may have thought this sounded bad. This was foolish, but this doesn't mean the relationship isn't genuine.

Let me give an example from someone with a CR-1. The couple was married on the 15th of a certain month, on a Saturday. This was when the wedding was held and solemnized. The marriage license, however, indicated that the wedding was on the 14th - this was when the judge issues the license. The 14th was the legal wedding date, but the couple were married on the 15th. The couple talked it over later, and decided that for the purposes if all communications and questions from immigration, their anniversary is the 14th, although they celebrate it on the 15th, it was thought easier to just go with the 15th rather than muddying the waters.

There can be reasons that are not fraudulent for deciding what is going to be said in advance, as in the example I just gave.

Edited December 6, 2013 by Jon and Sol

[GandD 5,966]

You guys weren't able to be on the same page because you had to make some stuff up since you did a fake wedding. Whatever man, I'm not judging you at all. But she got nervous as you say and forgot part of the "adjusted" truth however much or little of it there was. Give up on the K-1 route as there's a good chance it may not apply to you after your ceremony. Really, you'd be surprised what counts as a wedding in some places. Plus, the K1 is more expensive and at this point, you can probably get her her in the US (with a green card) in the same amount of time you can get her here without a green card, ability to leave, or work; give or take a couple months. If I had to do it again, that's what I would have done. Plus, now she won't have to remember anything other than what really happened in your relationship. Go get married (with certificate) and refile for C1

[BigBong 9]

For a bunch of people married/engaged to foreigners there seems to be a huge ignorance of cultural differences here.

Anyone the least bit familiar with Cambodian customs would know a picture such as the one being ridiculed would be EXPECTED of any engaged couple.

If anything not having pictures like that in Cambodia would make me question if it was a genuine couple.

I highly doubt it was any factor in his denial.

Also, since when does the word rehearse indicate any sort of misrepresentation/lying?

I'm willing to bet pretty much everyone of you all went over some questions that may be asked of you before the interview.

As to why he doesn't want to get married in Cambodia, getting married in the US would literally save him thousands of dollars and as previously mentioned is not an easy task in Cambodia.

Since we are all just speculating/judging here and don't have enough info to know what happened, my theory is they were denied because of spending too little time together in person before filing-then when she stumbled at the interview the CO made up his mind for denial.

[GandD 5,966]

For a bunch of people married/engaged to foreigners there seems to be a huge ignorance of cultural differences here.

Anyone the least bit familiar with Cambodian customs would know a picture such as the one being ridiculed would be EXPECTED of any engaged couple.

If anything not having pictures like that in Cambodia would make me question if it was a genuine couple.

I highly doubt it was any factor in his denial.

Also, since when does the word rehearse indicate any sort of misrepresentation/lying?

I'm willing to bet pretty much everyone of you all went over some questions that may be asked of you before the interview.

As to why he doesn't want to get married in Cambodia, getting married in the US would literally save him thousands of dollars and as previously mentioned is not an easy task in Cambodia.

Since we are all just speculating/judging here and don't have enough info to know what happened, my theory is they were denied because of spending too little time together in person before filing-then when she stumbled at the interview the CO made up his mind for denial.

Congrats on your insight. Maybe you're right and maybe you're not. But it doesn't ultimately matter unless you're just helping him save face.

Everything has already gone done for them. Now what we need to focus on is what they need to do next. If getting her here is the number one priority, at this point the CR is their cheapest and safest bet. Time will be pretty close to a K-1 for POE and she'll come here with a green card. I wish it worked like that for us.

Edited December 6, 2013 by GandD