refusal notice . I'm not happy

[Cathi 5,744]

So sorry to hear...you know what you should have done...you should have placed the job letter and pay stubs along with the affidavit of support because they look over these documents before the actual interview and this is the reason why they collect them prior to calling you up for the interview....so as far as they saw you didn't make enough...If I were you I would scan my pay stubs and job letter into my computer then e-mail the embassy with the attachments and explain the situation to them...asking them to please review the case....when you e-mail them please be sure to put your fiance name and case number in your e-mail....don't wait...act now....and I wish you all the best.

no, if she didn't make enough the affidavit of support would have been refused long before it made it to the consulate at the NVC. The NVC wouldnt have forwarded it if she was below the minimum income requirements

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no, if she didn't make enough the affidavit of support would have been refused long before it made it to the consulate at the NVC. The NVC wouldnt have forwarded it if she was below the minimum income requirements

I thought NVC doesn't review K1 documents and just issue a case number and forward to embassy.

[Cathi 5,744]

I thought NVC doesn't review K1 documents and just issue a case number and forward to embassy

woops, I forgot it was a k-1, my bad. Thanks for correcting me!

[c12h22oh 11]

Guys what happened is your fault, you should know better, if you check this forum asking the proper question we all indicated that you will need a co-sponsor ... but you didn't do it ... now the consequences. SORRY FOR YOU MISTAKE. now is water under the bridge !!!!

Edited December 3, 2013 by c12h22oh

[fa08 0]

Hi, I´ve read through this and am really sorry for what happened! I think i will be in a similar situation - but luckily Ive found a co-sponsor already. Does anyone know at what point I need to send in the documentation for the co-sponsor? Thanks!

[micahmoos 5]

Being direct is not the same as being rude.....rude is the catchall name when people post something that someone does not want to hear. Meanwhile, others freely castigate the embassy or consuls, as if they know far more than the very people who have been trained and have the experience and knowledge to conduct their job/responsibilities far beyond the knowledge base of any single applicant.

Perhaps many would prefer to read something like..."oh, just call your congressman and set the embassy straight..." while failing to realize that no congressman can order the embassy to do anything. Congress is in the Legislative branch of our government while the State Dept is in the Executive branch,....and no one from one branch can tell somebody in another branch of our government what to do.

Voicing displeasure or disagreement won't bring about a solution, no matter who agrees or disagrees with your complaint. Better to respond to the request of the embassy rather than try to elicit some random reply from people who have no knowledge of the rules and regulations, but have only an opinion that is not likely to be based on their vast experience in the field of immigration law.

The interviewing officer likely has interviewed hundreds if not thousands of applicants, depending on their own time in the State Dept....that amount of first hand experience and exposure to our laws greatly exceeds by leaps and bounds opinions of others who have not sat behind the interviewing window.

You know what are you a consular officer. It seem like u know everything there is to know about the steps an officer make when making a decision. Like i said if u don't have nothing nice to say, keep it moveing. Obviously if you knew everything you would not bee on visa journey like the rest of us. Have you ever thought about that. Keep your comments to ur self if there not going to at least try and help make my situation better. Pleas do not comment on my post anymore because your not a positive person , ur just someone who does not give a dam about the bullshit that comes out of there mouth.

[micahmoos 5]

K1's don't show none of that except at the interview.

Also i have worked on 1 job for 3 years almost 4 and the other for a little over a year since last september. But thanks for you thoughs. I had plenty of paystubs and everything they asked for and nothing was looked at but the i134 affidavit and the last years tax transcripts.

Edited December 3, 2013 by micahmoos

[dwheels76 5,468]

Also i have worked on 1 job for 3 years almost 4 and the other for a little over a year since last september. But thanks for you thoughs. I had plenty of paystubs and everything they asked for and nothing was looked at but the i134 affidavit and the last years tax transcripts.

Than I would email like someone suggested your entire I-134 package and ask them to review again. I would say Consular office had a bad hair day and just didn't want to be bothered which is not right. Also get on phone to your senator or congressman and get them involved now.

[micahmoos 5]

I understand. Thank you. You have not did anything wrong. I will do just that. The officer was rude my fiance said he asked where i worked and and then my fiance told him and the consular officer said " is that even a job" . That is not right and i will be writing the white house a letter.

[ladyblue 11]

wow sorry to hear this. I gues it depends on the embassy. I was was in same situation my last 3 years income was no where near meeting qualifiaction but i got a promotion right when he was geting his interview i used a letter from my job to show my increase. i had a co sponsor just in case but they didnt even use their info at interview. I just did my AOS without a sponser and used my info and my husband got approved with the letter from my jobs because my income on tax transcripts dont show my current income.

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wow sorry to hear this. I gues it depends on the embassy. I was was in same situation my last 3 years income was no where near meeting qualifiaction but i got a promotion right when he was geting his interview i used a letter from my job to show my increase. i had a co sponsor just in case but they didnt even use their info at interview. I just did my AOS without a sponser and used my info and my husband got approved with the letter from my jobs because my income on tax transcripts dont show my current income.

Your financial situation is completely different.

Same job, maybe long term, with a recent increase = stability on the job to support alien > two jobs with one potentialy staged and recent.

PS: Once I started looking atthings from a COs stand point then they did not appear to be the evil monsters I first thought they were. YMMV of course.

Edited December 3, 2013 by Gowon

[Pinkrlion 2,713]

I just want to interject the key important factor in all the suggestions being given by all. It is appreciated, but remember once you receive your NOA2, you really need to hear from those from your own embassy. The specific details of what happens is what you need to know to prepare for your interview. Also, it varies between a K-1 or a IR/CR, they are not adjudicated the same and different paperwork is required.

Regardless, of what may occur at another embassy, does not pertain to ours. We have all read different requirements that each embassy may ask, from how to schedule for medical, how to schedule your interview, can you file paperwork electronically. Sometimes, I think it is strange that they do that at their embassy, but that is their requirements.

In JA when it comes to income requirements, this is what they look at: Last year's income and they do not count child support or unemployment benefits as income, in these cases, they do not deny you, they request a co-sponsor. It is their responsibility to prevent those who immigrate from becoming public charges while in the United States. I have seen them request co-sponsors for those whose income was $100 over the guidelines.

All I can say, is it does not hurt to e-mail the embassy to get a direct, specific response on your income, and why it was not considered.

[micahmoos 5]

They said i need a joint sponsor , does this mean that person need to make up what ever i don't on their income tax return. I found a joint sponsor

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Edited December 3, 2013 by micahmoos

[SparklePony 238]

The co-sponsor needs to earn above the poverty guidelines for their own household size plus one (your fiance).

[micahmoos 5]

So what is the difference between a co sponsor and a joint sponsor. Because joint mean together? I don't get it. I'm going off the 864 requirements