Senate to HIV-Positive Immigrants: Go Home

[peezey 0]

I also don't think HIV drugs=charity. And, it is widely known, there are plenty of HIV resources to go around. Illegitimate and/or corruptgovernments in Africa, for instance, have gotten rich off $$ for HIV positive citizens, and/or have sold ARVs that have been shipped totheir countries, rather than provide them to infected people. These drugs are not rare and are no longer costly to produce.

The pharmaceutical industry in America makes it impossible for us to have unlimited resources

The pharmaceutical industry lines the pockets of those who make it impossible.

and didn't you work/still work for a pharmaceutical company?

No, I don't, never have.

[Ban Hammer 13,112]

I also don't think HIV drugs=charity. And, it is widely known, there are plenty of HIV resources to go around. Illegitimate and/or corruptgovernments in Africa, for instance, have gotten rich off $$ for HIV positive citizens, and/or have sold ARVs that have been shipped totheir countries, rather than provide them to infected people. These drugs are not rare and are no longer costly to produce.

The pharmaceutical industry in America makes it impossible for us to have unlimited resources

The pharmaceutical industry lines the pockets of those who make it impossible.

and didn't you work/still work for a pharmaceutical company?

No, I don't, never have.

ah my bad, "pharmaceutical research"

[peejay 327]

It just describes the ignorance, hate and fear that make people judge those with HIV. The danger to you of having an HIV+ neighbor is so minimal it's almost ridiculous that you'd be thinking about yourself at this point.

Tell that to the people that were victimized by this immigrant:

http://www.zimobserver.com/index.php?mod=a...1&act=print

I don't know the laws in UK, but allowing known HIV immigrants into the USA somehow doesn't seem like a desirable thing to do. It is unfortunate that there are HIV infected Americans, but it seems irresponsible for the US government to allow more to be imported into the USA.

[sheraz 0]

It just describes the ignorance, hate and fear that make people judge those with HIV. The danger to you of having an HIV+ neighbor is so minimal it's almost ridiculous that you'd be thinking about yourself at this point.

Tell that to the people that were victimized by this immigrant:

http://www.zimobserver.com/index.php?mod=a...1&act=print

I don't know the laws in UK, but allowing known HIV immigrants into the USA somehow doesn't seem like a desirable thing to do. It is unfortunate that there are HIV infected Americans, but it seems irresponsible for the US government to allow more to be imported into the USA.

Smart point. You want to allow people with HIV in the country and then take the cost of their treatment ?

Some have said they would like to see these people get waivers. Now what would be on the waiver

Some have said insurance. If they are not in the country, where are they going to get insurance ?

[Alex+R 0]

It just describes the ignorance, hate and fear that make people judge those with HIV. The danger to you of having an HIV+ neighbor is so minimal it's almost ridiculous that you'd be thinking about yourself at this point.

Tell that to the people that were victimized by this immigrant:

http://www.zimobserver.com/index.php?mod=a...1&act=print

I don't know the laws in UK, but allowing known HIV immigrants into the USA somehow doesn't seem like a desirable thing to do. It is unfortunate that there are HIV infected Americans, but it seems irresponsible for the US government to allow more to be imported into the USA.

Smart point. You want to allow people with HIV in the country and then take the cost of their treatment ?

Some have said they would like to see these people get waivers. Now what would be on the waiver

Some have said insurance. If they are not in the country, where are they going to get insurance ?

Sheraz, people who want to come to the U.S. with HIV already DO get waivers, and they have to have insurance. This is not a new idea; it's the status quo! (Did you read the OP?) There are a few companies that admit HIV patients, and if they can be added to the husband's or wife's insurance, it would usually be illegal for that company to ask any medical questions at all about that person. The other way to prove they can come in is by proving they can pay for 10 years of care very comfortably.

Chances are, it will never be easier than it it now, and right now it's pretty tough to get a waiver for HIV.

Also, so this ####### gave people HIV. This was somehow because he was an immigrant? To ENGLAND? I'm really confused as to how this is relevant. PS Most of the people he gave it to seemed to have been foreign immigrants as well.