Senate to HIV-Positive Immigrants: Go Home

[Caladan 19]

I don't think anyone is arguing that those that are HIV positive should have undeniable right to immigrate. The discussion is whether they should have the right to appeal with a wavier.

Exactly. No one's advocating that immigration is a right, nor is anyone arguing that contagious diseases shouldn't be barriers to entry, just that it seems strange to deny even waiver process.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

I agree, it seems wrong to say these intending immigrants don't have a right other intending immigrants do.

That said, if they take that right away for all intending immigrants, I'd be ok with that.

[sheraz 0]

Simple fact:

US Govt and DHS has to protect its citizens. Chances of HIV spreading are greater with the indiviual in a foreign land than if in US. Same with all other contagious disease.

If HIV positive is allowed to immigrate, the local healthcare system will have to pick up the tab. Tax payers money eventually.

Immigration is to allow the immigrants to contribute positively to the society so it becomes strong and wealthy. Unhealthy individuals will only make it more difficult for other immigrants and give them a bad eye.

Its a good law. USCIS tries to keep out criminals and terrorist who are danger to public safety so why not these people

[Heracles 417]

So they break the law entering the country and now some of you are saying how dare they test them for HIV. I guess all of us legitimate immigrants must be real idiots then..

What's next, rolling out the red carpet for them..

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Due to their immigration policy, I'm too old to emigrate to Australia. I'm not boo hooing about it. That's life. Go somewhere where they do what you want them to do.

[mybackpages 0]

Simple fact:

US Govt and DHS has to protect its citizens. Chances of HIV spreading are greater with the indiviual in a foreign land than if in US. Same with all other contagious disease.

If HIV positive is allowed to immigrate, the local healthcare system will have to pick up the tab. Tax payers money eventually.

Immigration is to allow the immigrants to contribute positively to the society so it becomes strong and wealthy. Unhealthy individuals will only make it more difficult for other immigrants and give them a bad eye.

Its a good law. USCIS tries to keep out criminals and terrorist who are danger to public safety so why not these people

Again no one is saying all HIV postive people whould be let in, only that they should be allowed access to a wavier like those convicted of a crime in the past.

By the way an immigrant with the flue is much more of a health risk than an HIV infected person. I don;t see US POE officials checking for the flu at entry.

[sarachid 0]

why do we make these rules for immigrants and not for our citizens??

[Fandango 1,439]

Simple fact:

US Govt and DHS has to protect its citizens. Chances of HIV spreading are greater with the indiviual in a foreign land than if in US. Same with all other contagious disease.

If HIV positive is allowed to immigrate, the local healthcare system will have to pick up the tab. Tax payers money eventually.

Immigration is to allow the immigrants to contribute positively to the society so it becomes strong and wealthy. Unhealthy individuals will only make it more difficult for other immigrants and give them a bad eye.

Its a good law. USCIS tries to keep out criminals and terrorist who are danger to public safety so why not these people

Again no one is saying all HIV postive people whould be let in, only that they should be allowed access to a wavier like those convicted of a crime in the past.

By the way an immigrant with the flue is much more of a health risk than an HIV infected person. I don;t see US POE officials checking for the flu at entry.

The flu is more dangerous than HIV? Hokay then

[peejay 327]

why do we make these rules for immigrants and not for our citizens??

Because immigration is a privilege...not a right. Our legislators can impose any requirements deemed fit for the protection and benefit of our country.

The truth is...a lot of countries have little or no immigration. It is their country and they can set any policy they see fit.

As to your question...citizens are citizens and are members of our nation. Immigrants are citizens of other countries and are the responsibility of their own government. We are not required to let anyone come here just because they want to.

It may sound mean...but that is the way of the world. It isn't being mean.

Just like you can welcome whomever you see fit into your house or bar whomever from entering your house. That is your perogative.

Edited December 22, 2006 by peejay

[sheraz 0]

Simple fact:

US Govt and DHS has to protect its citizens. Chances of HIV spreading are greater with the indiviual in a foreign land than if in US. Same with all other contagious disease.

If HIV positive is allowed to immigrate, the local healthcare system will have to pick up the tab. Tax payers money eventually.

Immigration is to allow the immigrants to contribute positively to the society so it becomes strong and wealthy. Unhealthy individuals will only make it more difficult for other immigrants and give them a bad eye.

Its a good law. USCIS tries to keep out criminals and terrorist who are danger to public safety so why not these people

Again no one is saying all HIV postive people whould be let in, only that they should be allowed access to a wavier like those convicted of a crime in the past.

By the way an immigrant with the flue is much more of a health risk than an HIV infected person. I don;t see US POE officials checking for the flu at entry.

People with flu often know it and others know it and its not an incurable disease. Symptoms of HIV are not visible

If someone is sick in an office, he or she are often asked to stay home or work from home. If they board an airplane, the crew and deny them boarding. People who are too drunk are not allowed to fly most times. Everywhere their is a stress on public safety

[Killer_Clown_2009 0]

Simple fact:

US Govt and DHS has to protect its citizens. Chances of HIV spreading are greater with the indiviual in a foreign land than if in US. Same with all other contagious disease.

If HIV positive is allowed to immigrate, the local healthcare system will have to pick up the tab. Tax payers money eventually.

Immigration is to allow the immigrants to contribute positively to the society so it becomes strong and wealthy. Unhealthy individuals will only make it more difficult for other immigrants and give them a bad eye.

Its a good law. USCIS tries to keep out criminals and terrorist who are danger to public safety so why not these people

They try to keep out criminals and people a danger to the public, but I am not so certain that they do such a good job. Not having a criminal record doesn't equal not being a criminal.

Nowhere on the I-130 or I-485 was I assessed to see how much I would contribute to "society" (I assume you mean US society and not society in general).

Edited December 22, 2006 by jane2005

[Alex+R 0]

Simple fact:

US Govt and DHS has to protect its citizens. Chances of HIV spreading are greater with the indiviual in a foreign land than if in US. Same with all other contagious disease.

If HIV positive is allowed to immigrate, the local healthcare system will have to pick up the tab. Tax payers money eventually.

Immigration is to allow the immigrants to contribute positively to the society so it becomes strong and wealthy. Unhealthy individuals will only make it more difficult for other immigrants and give them a bad eye.

Its a good law. USCIS tries to keep out criminals and terrorist who are danger to public safety so why not these people

Again no one is saying all HIV postive people whould be let in, only that they should be allowed access to a wavier like those convicted of a crime in the past.

By the way an immigrant with the flue is much more of a health risk than an HIV infected person. I don;t see US POE officials checking for the flu at entry.

The flu is more dangerous than HIV? Hokay then

If you are more likely to sit next to that person at a movie than you are to have unprotected sex with them 400 times, then they are more of a risk to you if their disease is flu.

[kaydee457 13]

Well, I don't know where this topic skewed from a discussion of age difference to AIDS but frankly I don't care.

There's a good number of bigots contributing to this thread and the laughable part (sic) is that they don't know they're bigots....

Alex, Jenn, and others are bigoted.

It's really too bad, sigh......

[Fandango 1,439]

Simple fact:

US Govt and DHS has to protect its citizens. Chances of HIV spreading are greater with the indiviual in a foreign land than if in US. Same with all other contagious disease.

If HIV positive is allowed to immigrate, the local healthcare system will have to pick up the tab. Tax payers money eventually.

Immigration is to allow the immigrants to contribute positively to the society so it becomes strong and wealthy. Unhealthy individuals will only make it more difficult for other immigrants and give them a bad eye.

Its a good law. USCIS tries to keep out criminals and terrorist who are danger to public safety so why not these people

Again no one is saying all HIV postive people whould be let in, only that they should be allowed access to a wavier like those convicted of a crime in the past.

By the way an immigrant with the flue is much more of a health risk than an HIV infected person. I don;t see US POE officials checking for the flu at entry.

The flu is more dangerous than HIV? Hokay then

If you are more likely to sit next to that person at a movie than you are to have unprotected sex with them 400 times, then they are more of a risk to you if their disease is flu.

People can recover from the flu. Don't be silly, now

Edited December 22, 2006 by LisaD

[edsperfect 25]

Simple fact:

US Govt and DHS has to protect its citizens. Chances of HIV spreading are greater with the indiviual in a foreign land than if in US. Same with all other contagious disease.

If HIV positive is allowed to immigrate, the local healthcare system will have to pick up the tab. Tax payers money eventually.

Immigration is to allow the immigrants to contribute positively to the society so it becomes strong and wealthy. Unhealthy individuals will only make it more difficult for other immigrants and give them a bad eye.

Its a good law. USCIS tries to keep out criminals and terrorist who are danger to public safety so why not these people

Again no one is saying all HIV postive people whould be let in, only that they should be allowed access to a wavier like those convicted of a crime in the past.

By the way an immigrant with the flue is much more of a health risk than an HIV infected person. I don;t see US POE officials checking for the flu at entry.

The flu is more dangerous than HIV? Hokay then

If you are more likely to sit next to that person at a movie than you are to have unprotected sex with them 400 times, then they are more of a risk to you if their disease is flu.

Immigration is a priviledge and many of ushere are trying to excercise that for ourself or a loved one. As prior posts have indicated, health issues have always been somewhat of a bar to entry so why should it change now? For what reason, are we to be the hospital for the world sick.

Even if they have insurance, which i doubt since before issuing a health policy most people have to give blood, the cost is horrendous. Quite frankly I may just be greedy but I dn't want to pay for the illegals ills, education, driver licenses and all the other expenses they cost this nation so we can have someone to pick lettuce or landscape te executives mansion.