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Well I guess once they're convicted we should just take them out back and shoot them in the head.

No, but prison doesn't work as well as it should. Partly it's because they are run for profit and really, once a hard case criminal has been sent to prison no one cares very much about what happens next and partly because there this pervasive idea that people who commit horrible crimes are beyond redemption so there is no point in thinking about them after they are convicted, except in terms of how someone should give them their 'just deserts' as in this case. It's a bit of a mess.

The best way to cut prison costs is to legalize drugs.

Certainly decriminalize and provide more help to drug addicts and stop treating them like lepers. They make bad choices for sure, and not all of them can be helped but they can be better managed out of jail if as a society we don't look at them as evil criminals.

Not the head. Maybe chop off their hands.

Because that's really worked so well in the past.rolleyes.gif

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You can certainly put forward your opinion that more types of crime should have the option of the death penalty but allowing prisons to run amok is NOT a solution, even if you mistakenly think that it is.

Whether or not you think it is a solution, I am smart enough to know it goes on every day in prison. Sometimes not to the fatal level, true. But in this case, it was justified. Pedophiles do not deserve to live. If our country killed them all, it would set a precedent that MIGHT make potential criminals think twice about the crime; and if it didn't, it would ensure that the prisons are not overpopulated with that kind of trash.

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No, but prison doesn't work as well as it should. Partly it's because they are run for profit and really, once a hard case criminal has been sent to prison no one cares very much about what happens next and partly because there this pervasive idea that people who commit horrible crimes are beyond redemption so there is no point in thinking about them after they are convicted, except in terms of how someone should give them their 'just deserts' as in this case. It's a bit of a mess.

Certainly decriminalize and provide more help to drug addicts and stop treating them like lepers. They make bad choices for sure, and not all of them can be helped but they can be better managed out of jail if as a society we don't look at them as evil criminals.

Yes, there is that, but we would also see a reduction in the prison population due to no longer incarcerating dealers and violent criminals that result from the illegal drug trade. It would render these people ineffective much more than the costly war on drugs ever can and force them to get real jobs, not to mention take their family members off of the dependence on welfare that throwing them all in prison created.

The war on drugs has a worse effect on our middle and lower class than illegal immigration does.

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Well I guess once they're convicted we should just take them out back and shoot them in the head.

Finally, you come up with a concept that I can get behind! Except the head would not be my target of preference. A shot to the knee caps, then the genitals, then the stomach would ensure they had more time to reflect on their sins...

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Would you be willing to let him live next door to you and your kids to prove me wrong, or at least pessimistic?

Of course not but that doesn't mean I think it's ok that two guys brutally murdered him in jail and people think it was justice served. There's a lot of area between me being ok with him being my neighbor and killed.
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Whether or not you think it is a solution, I am smart enough to know it goes on every day in prison. Sometimes not to the fatal level, true. But in this case, it was justified. Pedophiles do not deserve to live. If our country killed them all, it would set a precedent that MIGHT make potential criminals think twice about the crime; and if it didn't, it would ensure that the prisons are not overpopulated with that kind of trash.

What? I am totally aware that a lot of things go on in prison that should not. That's not justice, that's mayhem. That may be your idea of the best way to deal with criminals but it's not a commonly held view, not even on the right wing of politics so your ideology is way off the charts. Not to mention your apparent vicarious pleasure in thinking about the most vicious, nasty outcomes you can for people you know very little about. Your mind is not working on normal lines if that really is your opinion and not just something you are posting for 'effect'.

Yes, there is that, but we would also see a reduction in the prison population due to no longer incarcerating dealers and violent criminals that result from the illegal drug trade. It would render these people ineffective much more than the costly war on drugs ever can and force them to get real jobs, not to mention take their family members off of the dependence on welfare that throwing them all in prison created.

The war on drugs has a worse effect on our middle and lower class than illegal immigration does.

I think I agreed that putting addicts in prison is not serving us well as a society. Our prisons are overrun with people who have no business being there at all, and most are either addicts or in some other way are part of the drug trafficking industry.

Sharia works, figures an infidel like you wouldn't want it.

It's been used in Western societies as well and no, I don't like it, infidel or not :)

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What? I am totally aware that a lot of things go on in prison that should not. That's not justice, that's mayhem. That may be your idea of the best way to deal with criminals but it's not a commonly held view, not even on the right wing of politics so your ideology is way off the charts. Not to mention your apparent vicarious pleasure in thinking about the most vicious, nasty outcomes you can for people you know very little about. Your mind is not working on normal lines if that really is your opinion and not just something you are posting for 'effect'.

I think I agreed that putting addicts in prison is not serving us well as a society. Our prisons are overrun with people who have no business being there at all, and most are either addicts or in some other way are part of the drug trafficking industry.

It's been used in Western societies as well and no, I don't like it, infidel or not :)

Yes, I know. I wasn't disagreeing with you, only adding that it would reduce the trafficking and crime as well as deal with addicts better. And take power out of cross-border cartels too.

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As far as the vigilante justice issue....you deal with pedo/sicko prisoners by giving them longer sentences, not ripping their intestines out. If the argument that these pedos will be out on the street in a few years is the excuse for slitting their throats and eating their livers since they cannot be rehabilitated and would be a danger to society, then I would think that this argument can be met via lifetime sentences rather than behaving like animals towards them. That is, if we want to consider ourselves a civil society.

Anything beyond that is simply revenge and wholly on the person serving the "justice" and has nothing to do with getting pedos and sickos off the streets or fighting crime.

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Yes, I know. I wasn't disagreeing with you, only adding that it would reduce the trafficking and crime as well as deal with addicts better. And take power out of cross-border cartels too.

Got it, thanks.

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The best way to cut prison costs is to legalize drugs.

No, legalizing drugs would stop the war on drugs, aka war on black people. This would be a problem for those who like to brag that blacks have the highest incarceration rate and it will also leave too many blacks with rights. The war on drugs was meant to be used as a tool to strip blacks of rights such as voting, etc.

 

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