high and low fraud countries? ?

[KTichUsZim 3]

I have read some post here and see a lot of statements on High and Low fraud countries, what are they is there a list my fiancee, is a Zimbabwean National living in South Africa with a work visa, would this be considered a high risk of fraud, I just filed 11/21/13 awaiting notice..

Any specific information would be appreciated

Thanks.

[camden 20]

Most African countries are considered high fraud. Low fraud would be places like Sweden, France, Germany, Canada for example.

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

Low fraud usually means they can use the VWP to enter the US, mid fraud means you can easily get a visitors visa . High fraud is all others ( mostly Africa and Asia/Pacific islands/ Jamaica

[Ryan H 3,812]

Moved from K1 Process & Procedures to General Immigration-Related Discussion; topic is applicable to more than just one visa type.

[Ilovemyman 147]

Low fraud country : all the country rich.

High fraud country: all poor country

That's simple

[KTichUsZim 3]

IlovemyMan I totally agree with you!, I thought when I saw these low/high fraud terms used, wow! wouldn't any citizen of any country be under suspension?

[NickD 202]

Never heard of low/high fraud countries, but sure are visa limits for various countries for family based immigration. And did I say countries? More like regions, as Latin America that is not a country, more like all of the continent of the entire South America and a good share of North America as well. And if you are trying to immigrate a family member from this region are at the bottom of the list.

Its all here:

http://travel.state.gov/visa/bulletin/bulletin_5993.html

Really have no idea who makes this determination, but can't feel bad, because neither does my congressman nor senator, both claim they have no say in this matter, strictly under the jurisdiction of the state department under direct control of the executive branch. So really not done by representation, more like dictation.

In regards to fraud, we are all guilty of fraud until we prove with plenty of documentation that we are not. And if you are a US citizen sponsor of an immigrant that is a victim of fraud, don't expect any help from the USCIS. More there to hang you with that I-864 we were forced to sign, then to help you. Your only protection against fraud is to protect yourself, you are own in this matter.

[Ilovemyman 147]

Never heard of low/high fraud countries, but sure are visa limits for various countries for family based immigration. And did I say countries? More like regions, as Latin America that is not a country, more like all of the continent of the entire South America and a good share of North America as well. And if you are trying to immigrate a family member from this region are at the bottom of the list.

Its all here:

http://travel.state.gov/visa/bulletin/bulletin_5993.html

Really have no idea who makes this determination, but can't feel bad, because neither does my congressman nor senator, both claim they have no say in this matter, strictly under the jurisdiction of the state department under direct control of the executive branch. So really not done by representation, more like dictation.

In regards to fraud, we are all guilty of fraud until we prove with plenty of documentation that we are not. And if you are a US citizen sponsor of an immigrant that is a victim of fraud, don't expect any help from the USCIS. More there to hang you with that I-864 we were forced to sign, then to help you. Your only protection against fraud is to protect yourself, you are own in this matter.

You say no only country?

Latin america isnt a country, but friend latin america is a region of severals countries.

The thing is poor contries are consider high fraud.

Rich countries are low fraud. That is

[Ilovemyman 147]

Low or high fraud doesnt nothing to see with cuantity of visa for each region.

people from poor countries Do a lot of thing with fraud to get a visa, such as go to embassy with false papers to try to get a tourist visa, false marriage ect.

People from rich countries doesnt do that because they are approved easy as tourist , student or whatever.

[KTichUsZim 3]

ALL that does is make situations like many here including me have extra eyes and possible questions on the validity of our relationship. . Terrible!

[NickD 202]

A new word added to my vocabulary is "apostile" a document issued in the highest form of that countries government to assure the information you provided as evidence was true and correct. Also cost a fair amount of money for each apostile.

We have nothing to do in defining the countries as regions, DOS does that with predetermined limits of visa's for those regions. Doesn't translate into fraud, but sure does translate into your waiting time.

Sure, you only have to send in copies of these super expensive documents, but have to bring all the originals in for your interview, and have to be darn sure you get them all back. Will need them again for removal of conditions, and for US citizenship. If any one is missing, you will be dead meat. For some, meant traveling back to their home country and going through this entire process again. Good reason to purchase a safe.

[NikLR 13,227]

Low or high fraud doesnt nothing to see with cuantity of visa for each region.

people from poor countries Do a lot of thing with fraud to get a visa, such as go to embassy with false papers to try to get a tourist visa, false marriage ect.

People from rich countries doesnt do that because they are approved easy as tourist , student or whatever.

Keep in mind this doesn't reflect the actual richness/poorness of the actual person coming from that country. it's the entire country treated with more suspicion or not. Unfortunately it's because people from that country who have decided to scam, because they want to go to the USA for whatever reason, and make it harder on EVERYONE from that country.

Even Canada does it... your spouse from Poland takes 8 months vs 32 for Pakistan. But at least that gives you a timetable.

[NickD 202]

Keep in mind this doesn't reflect the actual richness/poorness of the actual person coming from that country. it's the entire country treated with more suspicion or not. Unfortunately it's because people from that country who have decided to scam, because they want to go to the USA for whatever reason, and make it harder on EVERYONE from that country.

Even Canada does it... your spouse from Poland takes 8 months vs 32 for Pakistan. But at least that gives you a timetable.

Still question if this deals with fraud or NVC visa allotments. When Reagan was president, he had a very strong interest in Latin America, that died instantly when Bush became president, suddenly the key interest was with the middle east. When Obama became president, his country of key interest is Africa, and this is where the vast majority of visa allotments are going to.

With a face to face discussion I had with our senators Kolh and Feingold on this issue, they both said they don't have any say in these allotments, strictly all under the executive branch.

[NikLR 13,227]

The USA decides who gets more visa allotments because of a) money, b) fraud, and c) homeland security.

Did you know that if the USC spouse decides to wait outside Canada it takes 22 months to get a visa. However we have a thing where you pay a fee at the border and do all the work from the inside and the PR status should take 18 months. USA doesn't allow that but then, 33 million people vs 313 million... 9.2 times the population, guess ya draw the line somewhere.