China Extends Air Defence Perimeter

[Pooky 3,843]

So the PRC has unilaterally extended its "Air Defence Identification Zone" over an area of the East China Sea that covers the Senkaku, or Daioyu Islands, territory disputed by Japan, China and Taiwan.

BBC article here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25062525

China is definitely flexing its muscle, in the East, facing Japan and Taiwan, and in the West, facing India. The PRC has just flown its first stealth drone, is developing its stealth air assets, the J-20 and J-31, and is working toward getting its first aircraft carrier operational. Militarily, China is in its ascendancy.

But what is driving this new pushiness?

[ready4ONE 5,400]

I'm guessing that they figure to lose only 10 men to 1 enemy killed should their actions generate armed conflict?

[Hotter Otter 1,211]

There are going to be issues here for sure, patrol boats shadowing each other, fisherman being harassed and now China making an air defence zone adjacent to Japan's. It only takes one itchy trigger finger and nationalists in both countries want more pressure on the other meaning both governments can't lose face which suggests the problem isn't going away. It looks like China wants to show that it's a major player now and lay claim to the gas/oil fields in the disputed islands.

If you think that is a mess check out the Spratly Islands which are claimed by

• Brunei
• People's Republic of China:
• Malaysia:
• Philippines:
• Taiwan
• Vietnam:

Good luck sorting that one out!

[Karee 4,191]

Here's what China considers their territory in the South China Sea:

Pretty outrageous.

[Sousuke 1,214]

Sounds like Japan should throw a few SAMs on the island.....

[Pooky 3,843]

Sounds like Japan should throw a few SAMs on the island.....

Or tell Godzilla that lunch is ready.

[luckytxn 2,265]

China is settling old scores. These are ancestral claims. They are targeting what they see as their near term goals. They are now arming and will train their military to seize if need to and/or control these regions.

So the PRC has unilaterally extended its "Air Defence Identification Zone" over an area of the East China Sea that covers the Senkaku, or Daioyu Islands, territory disputed by Japan, China and Taiwan.

BBC article here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25062525

China is definitely flexing its muscle, in the East, facing Japan and Taiwan, and in the West, facing India. The PRC has just flown its first stealth drone, is developing its stealth air assets, the J-20 and J-31, and is working toward getting its first aircraft carrier operational. Militarily, China is in its ascendancy.

But what is driving this new pushiness?

[luckytxn 2,265]

It is also an area that no industrial country would declare a major war over. As long as China allows free flow for the shipping lanes everyone else is happy. There should also be enough natural resources in that area to keep their economy humming for a long time.

Do you think the U.S. should go to war with China if they take this territory as their own? We are the only country on Earth that can stop them.

Here's what China considers their territory in the South China Sea:

Pretty outrageous.

[Merrytooth 5,748]

It is also an area that no industrial country would declare a major war over. As long as China allows free flow for the shipping lanes everyone else is happy. There should also be enough natural resources in that area to keep their economy humming for a long time.

Do you think the U.S. should go to war with China if they take this territory as their own? We are the only country on Earth that can stop them.

By coincidence, China is also US biggest foreign creditor.

So how should US finance its war? Borrowing more money from 'Enemy' China?

[luckytxn 2,265]

U.S. would just print more money. Of course we would just sell our debt to our selves as we always do. Has to keep working...right?

By coincidence, China is also US biggest foreign creditor.

So how should US finance its war? Borrowing more money from 'Enemy' China?

[Pooky 3,843]

U.S. would just print more money. Of course we would just sell our debt to our selves as we always do. Has to keep working...right?

What is a small provincial war ... other than a distraction in an election cycle.

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

Do you think the U.S. should go to war with China if they take this territory as their own? We are the only country on Earth that can stop them.

The only way we will win a war against China is if we offer them a link to a website & convince them to sign up for ACA. It'll keep 'em busy for a year or two while we sneak in from behind and take over the islands.

[luckytxn 2,265]

Exactly. At least afterwards we can tell China that we now owe them nothing for bothering us.

What is a small provincial war ... other than a distraction in an election cycle.

[luckytxn 2,265]

At sea or the air we would own China. Luckily islands are surrounded by water.

The only way we will win a war against China is if we offer them a link to a website & convince them to sign up for ACA. It'll keep 'em busy for a year or two while we sneak in from behind and take over the islands.

[Sousuke 1,214]

The US / Japan alliance would require US entry. I think Japan would defend the island as they are somewhat hawkish of late.

For this reason, China would not try and take the island in our lifetime. They are postering for the future.