visa denied (split topic)

[miriny 0]

My fiance just got back from his visa INterview..The woman asked where we met.We said online in a religous chat room 2 years ago..She says why were you in a religious chat room? He said I just like to learn about other religions and he also said he thought the conversations would be more normal than the usual .She asked what his religion is..He says he was raised in a muslim home but he is accepting and respectful of other religions..Im from a jewish background and he was very interested in learning about that since he never met a jewish person before.She said WHAT?? shes jewish?? started grilling him about his Islamic affilation.and noted the file about something at the time she exclaimed that I am jewish..She said she doesnt believe that He really wants to marry a woman who is divorced,8 years older with 2 kids...who he met only 2 times for 15 days at a time.#######!!!!!!!!how many people meet online..talk months..finally meet in person and decide they want a life together?This happens so often its crazy she is making an issue.The man before my finace didnt even speak english!Say his "fiance" only 3 days with other people around and was approved!! Indian/Indian K1.. She said to my fiance..If you really want to marry her then do it and have her apply for a spouse visa.#######.I would have to leave my children for over a month!We spent so much money on an immigration lawyer and all these damn fees.We had pages and pages(well over 100)chat records,pictures together,receipts for hotels and even moneygram that I sent to help him with these stupid fees..She ignored it.. I wrote the conulate about her conduct ans asked if we can appeal this decision because its based on discrimination not on the evidence we submitted.im waiting for a response.We are in total shock!!!I I hope this isnt the end.All our hopes and dreams were tied up in this!I

[Ryan H 3,812]

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[dwheels76 5,468]

My fiance just got back from his visa INterview..The woman asked where we met.We said online in a religous chat room 2 years ago..She says why were you in a religious chat room? He said I just like to learn about other religions and he also said he thought the conversations would be more normal than the usual .She asked what his religion is..He says he was raised in a muslim home but he is accepting and respectful of other religions..Im from a jewish background and he was very interested in learning about that since he never met a jewish person before.She said WHAT?? shes jewish?? started grilling him about his Islamic affilation.and noted the file about something at the time she exclaimed that I am jewish..She said she doesnt believe that He really wants to marry a woman who is divorced,8 years older with 2 kids...who he met only 2 times for 15 days at a time.#######!!!!!!!!how many people meet online..talk months..finally meet in person and decide they want a life together?This happens so often its crazy she is making an issue.The man before my finace didnt even speak english!Say his "fiance" only 3 days with other people around and was approved!! Indian/Indian K1.. She said to my fiance..If you really want to marry her then do it and have her apply for a spouse visa.#######.I would have to leave my children for over a month!We spent so much money on an immigration lawyer and all these damn fees.We had pages and pages(well over 100)chat records,pictures together,receipts for hotels and even moneygram that I sent to help him with these stupid fees..She ignored it.. I wrote the conulate about her conduct ans asked if we can appeal this decision because its based on discrimination not on the evidence we submitted.im waiting for a response.We are in total shock!!!I I hope this isnt the end.All our hopes and dreams were tied up in this!I

When you go against the cultural norm of a country you will get much scrutiny. Complaining and waging a war against a CO is futile and could back fire future endeavors.

One thing I have seen when it comes to older woman younger man (your gap isn’t that significant) and you been married before with kids being engaged just doesn’t look like you are commented (to a CO). Getting married shows you are committed to each other.

Also do your research Muslim and Jewish is rare happens yes but in India?

All you can do is either refile K1 (Highly suggest not) or go and get married.

[miriny 0]

When you go against the cultural norm of a country you will get much scrutiny. Complaining and waging a war against a CO is futile and could back fire future endeavors.

One thing I have seen when it comes to older woman younger man (your gap isn’t that significant) and you been married before with kids being engaged just doesn’t look like you are commented (to a CO). Getting married shows you are committed to each other.

Also do your research Muslim and Jewish is rare happens yes but in India?

All you can do is either refile K1 (Highly suggest not) or go and get married.

so what your saying is that American consulate is following the social norms of another country and an american must follow another countries laws when applying for a visa ??hmmm. Im american.discrimination is illegal in America.a US consulate should follow the laws of the US.Its not fighting the CO.. its demanding that she is fair and behaves lawfullly.Who cares if she doesnt approve of our religious or cultural differences>Its not her place to judge this.Its her place only to make sure we have proof of a continuing relationship...which all our proof shows this.Why would I help with the fees?Pay a lawyer?If it was fraud wouldnt he be paying?If He gets the visa and we dont marry he will be deported...end of story.There is your commitment.My whole family would co-sponser if they could but the honor yes they love him so it was an honor to sponser him was my sisters..this should count for something..My mother calls him already her son in law..the wedding is just a formality.When family is involved and helping plan a wedding i think that also proves something.I have small children.Its not so easy to go to India for 2 months to marry then come back only to start this process over again for a spousal visa.We have been completely honest.Why should we be punished.Do you know how many people are in the US illegally?We are trying to be hnest and do things right,Why should we get punished?

[Sharkano 13]

The problem is they need to re-do the system so that any denial can be appealed AT THE EMBASSY and heard by a senior consulate officer there, like within 30 days of the denial. Unfortunately, I believe this is the actual situation: http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/k-1-fianc-visa-denied-can-i-appeal-refile.html

[Naina01 2]

Hey, I'm sorry to hear that. I know it must have been upsetting for both of you, but I pray that you find the best solution to your problem soon. However, instead of blaming the consular officer for discriminating against you, you should look into the possible red flags in your relationship and find a reasonable way to resolve them. I pray Allah helps you resolve your issues Amen.

Good luck!

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

You can try to request through your senator that you get a section chief review which will

likely not happen but you can try. You can state that you felt discriminated against in religious issues.

It is what it is. CO's have a huge amount of discretion to do what they want to do and return the case to

USCIS where it will expire. You are free to re file a K1 or get married and file a CR1 in which case if it would get

denied too you would be given the chance to rebut via response to a NOID/NOIR but sorry...K1's expire.

Been there, done that and sometimes wear the hat ! We were refused due to a "gut feeling that our intended marriage

would not be a lasting one." True story, word for word !

No, it is not fair but a reality.

My advice is marry and file a CR1, address the issues they do not like in a timeline letter in your new petition

and at the embassy and convince them that there is life "outside the box" with quality evidence to back it up.

They sit in their little 'culture' box with their dusty old manual guide from way back when and potential

fraud sheets and don't grasp different perspectives. Archaic but reality. Sometimes they get it right and too often

they get it wrong for genuine couples. Best wishes !

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

Someone asked my to give you the " tough love talk "

Two trips of 15 days is really not enough to convince the CO when you have red flags that you know each other well enough to marry. It is like you went on 2 quick vacations which hardly mimic real life. If you want to show a valid relationship go spend a month or more living in his town around his family . So many people go visit , stay in a hotel and don't even catch on the their intended lover has a spouse and kids hidden around the corner. A average Muslim man isn't going to take and older divorced woman as his first wife and the CO knows this, What did you present to show you two are different ? I know a Muslim man can marry a Christian but I am not sure about other religions. If he is the one leading the immigration journey that is a HUGE red flag. Sending money too much to a foreigner makes it look like you are buying yourself a bed partner or just outright being taken.. The sometimes ask "bold" questions to see the response. To see the reaction. My husband was asked if his father died because he married a white woman, His immediate response was no .. see the pictures of them smiling together. Scammers troll religious sites because they know once hooked the people there will continue to believe long past the point most people would throw in the towel. What did you do to prove he wasn't doing that with you ?