New Islamabad AP-Tracker, Part II

[fauji18 7]

Heard a lot of talk about red flags, frauds, etc. Came across this interesting document. It's from 2012 and the full report can be found at http://oig.state.gov/documents/organization/193863.pdf

Here is the Fraud bit that is a good read and clues us to the realities of getting our loved ones to migrate close to us:

"Fraud Prevention

Fraud is endemic in Pakistan. One officer noted that it often spans generations and

families. Documents are not reliable. As the 2010 inspection report noted, the potential for links

between fraud and international terrorism, and the pull of the U.S. economy for economic

migrants, combine to make fraud prevention work challenging and demanding. Since the last

inspection, a full-time fraud prevention manager has been assigned, and one entry-level officer is

assigned to the unit. At the time of this CFR, the capable and energetic LE staff is at a full

complement of four; for the last year the unit operated with only two LE staff members most of

the time. Marriage fraud remains a huge problem, and many cases involve petitioner fraud.

Under a new procedure, the fraud prevention unit will send information on cases involving

petitioner fraud to the Department’s Office of Fraud Prevention Programs, which will in turn

work with the Department of Homeland Security to determine whether any action can be taken

on these cases."

Edited March 20, 2014 by fauji18

[bebo 2]

crazy AP

[janetusman 33]

Please post that entire sheet as Janetusman did. Thank you. By the way how you guys obtain this Red Flag sheet?

I only posted a small part of the sheet. Here is a complete list of the USCIS checklist:

Large Age Difference (wife older by several years)

Cultural Differences, especially if language and religions are different

Physical Mismatch

Petitioner lists address on I-130 where he/she doesn't actually reside

Petitioner's phone number not listed in Part D and/or beneficiary's phone number no indicated in C-18

Petitioner attempts to conceal prior marriages

USC petitioner has more than 2 marriages with foreign nationals

Benficiary has multiple marriages within the year prior to filing I-130

Rapide sequence of events: Petitioner and beneficiary both divorce their ex-spouses shortly before getting married

Beneficiary entered EW1 from a non-contiguous country and married the petitioner within one year of entry to the US

US marriage fraud profiler (USCs who have criminal records who work as dancers, nail technicians, casino dealers, etc

Petitioner has low income job, yet submitted evidence of more than one trip overseas and/or money sent to spouse overseas

Over Documentation - Petitioner submits any of the following: I-864 Affidavit of support, sight seeing photos, studio photos of the two in their wedding attire, photos of minister, groom/bride signing wedding documents, airline ticket stubs.

Of course my favorite one is the Over documentation...if you can support you are suspect, if you can't then you have to get a co-sponsor. And what I love most of all are the other items because that is what they ask for in the RFE. So if you have the documentation you are a fraud, if you don't then you are fraud...damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Thank you very much for sharing this information. I am sure there must be for right or wrong reason our case was put in AP. By the way I am older than my wife.

The red flag specifically states wife older than husband...not the other way around.

[faisal213 3]

but these frauds about US funds not immigration

[fauji18 7]

I only posted a small part of the sheet. Here is a complete list of the USCIS checklist:

Large Age Difference (wife older by several years)

Cultural Differences, especially if language and religions are different

Physical Mismatch

Petitioner lists address on I-130 where he/she doesn't actually reside

Petitioner's phone number not listed in Part D and/or beneficiary's phone number no indicated in C-18

Petitioner attempts to conceal prior marriages

USC petitioner has more than 2 marriages with foreign nationals

Benficiary has multiple marriages within the year prior to filing I-130

Rapide sequence of events: Petitioner and beneficiary both divorce their ex-spouses shortly before getting married

Beneficiary entered EW1 from a non-contiguous country and married the petitioner within one year of entry to the US

US marriage fraud profiler (USCs who have criminal records who work as dancers, nail technicians, casino dealers, etc

Petitioner has low income job, yet submitted evidence of more than one trip overseas and/or money sent to spouse overseas

Over Documentation - Petitioner submits any of the following: I-864 Affidavit of support, sight seeing photos, studio photos of the two in their wedding attire, photos of minister, groom/bride signing wedding documents, airline ticket stubs.

Of course my favorite one is the Over documentation...if you can support you are suspect, if you can't then you have to get a co-sponsor. And what I love most of all are the other items because that is what they ask for in the RFE. So if you have the documentation you are a fraud, if you don't then you are fraud...damned if you do, damned if you don't.

The red flag specifically states wife older than husband...not the other way around.

Oh wow! And to think... aren't airline ticket stubs proof of having physically met within the last two years? Wouldn't you go sight seeing with your fiance? The over documentation is absurd. And if I can get it with ease why on earth would I not send in I-864. It took me all of five minutes to get it filled out and another five to pull my tax transcripts and a letter from my employer! wow!

[rayanj 0]

ceac.state.gov the website is working or not?

[janetusman 33]

Oh wow! And to think... aren't airline ticket stubs proof of having physically met within the last two years? Wouldn't you go sight seeing with your fiance? The over documentation is absurd. And if I can get it with ease why on earth would I not send in I-864. It took me all of five minutes to get it filled out and another five to pull my tax transcripts and a letter from my employer! wow!

Yes that was my point exactly...damned if you do, damned if you don't. I agree with you completely...the over documentation is absolutely absurd.

[A and F 24]

I only posted a small part of the sheet. Here is a complete list of the USCIS checklist:

Large Age Difference (wife older by several years)

Cultural Differences, especially if language and religions are different

Physical Mismatch

Petitioner lists address on I-130 where he/she doesn't actually reside

Petitioner's phone number not listed in Part D and/or beneficiary's phone number no indicated in C-18

Petitioner attempts to conceal prior marriages

USC petitioner has more than 2 marriages with foreign nationals

Benficiary has multiple marriages within the year prior to filing I-130

Rapide sequence of events: Petitioner and beneficiary both divorce their ex-spouses shortly before getting married

Beneficiary entered EW1 from a non-contiguous country and married the petitioner within one year of entry to the US

US marriage fraud profiler (USCs who have criminal records who work as dancers, nail technicians, casino dealers, etc

Petitioner has low income job, yet submitted evidence of more than one trip overseas and/or money sent to spouse overseas

Over Documentation - Petitioner submits any of the following: I-864 Affidavit of support, sight seeing photos, studio photos of the two in their wedding attire, photos of minister, groom/bride signing wedding documents, airline ticket stubs.

Of course my favorite one is the Over documentation...if you can support you are suspect, if you can't then you have to get a co-sponsor. And what I love most of all are the other items because that is what they ask for in the RFE. So if you have the documentation you are a fraud, if you don't then you are fraud...damned if you do, damned if you don't.

The red flag specifically states wife older than husband...not the other way around.

How on earth a layman who is sending things to immigration authorities know that he/she need not to send such and such things and doing so would be deemed as over documentation?

Every individual is different in tackling same situation and its so funny to know that tom, ####### and harry are deemed persons of same category if they send same type of documents.

Do you think that if authorities ask something in a specific situation, people can deviate from "STANDARD" behavior? Oh God.

What about i-864 Affidavit of Support? LOL If petiotioner would send I-864 its over documentation so who they think should send I-864 Affidavit of Support?

[fauji18 7]

ceac.state.gov the website is working or not?

It's working. Just checked it and everything seems to be in order with the website.

[Aisha& Wajid 10]

No its not working

[rayanj 0]

It's working. Just checked it and everything seems to be in order with the website.

thank you

[Aisha& Wajid 10]

I checked it 4 times and every time it say

Server Error

401 - Unauthorized: Access is denied due to invalid credentials. You do not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials that you supplied.

if its working then tell me the link

[fauji18 7]

I checked it 4 times and every time it say

Server Error

401 - Unauthorized: Access is denied due to invalid credentials. You do not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials that you supplied.

if its working then tell me the link

401 error generally means there is an issue on YOUR side (the end user) trying to connect to the website. If it was a 500 level error that would mean the error is on the server side (which would be ceac's website). Check the attachments. I have attached the screenshot. Full link which I use: https://ceac.state.gov/CEACStatTracker/Status.aspx?eQs=WwjqOlbeRYzCYubaSQI+RA==

[Luluhilweh 3]

Hello everyone just wanted to check in and read up on your progress-still praying for everyone in AP status especially the long, dragged out cases like us.

Fauji18, Aish&Wajid have a point-earlier in the day I checked my husband's status and the website displayed an update for today. I rechecked this evening numerous times to see if the message had changed and all I get is the 401 unauthorized , access is denies due to invalid credentials. I get this just requesting the website, this is not giving me the home page where I have even entered the case # yet. Im sure the administrator is aware of the issue and prob working on it already.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

Yes that was my point exactly...damned if you do, damned if you don't. I agree with you completely...the over documentation is absolutely absurd.

Large Age Difference (wife older by several years)

Cultural Differences, especially if language and religions are different

Physical Mismatch

Petitioner lists address on I-130 where he/she doesn't actually reside

Petitioner's phone number not listed in Part D and/or beneficiary's phone number no indicated in C-18

Petitioner attempts to conceal prior marriages

USC petitioner has more than 2 marriages with foreign nationals

Benficiary has multiple marriages within the year prior to filing I-130

Rapide sequence of events: Petitioner and beneficiary both divorce their ex-spouses shortly before getting married

Beneficiary entered EW1 from a non-contiguous country and married the petitioner within one year of entry to the US

US marriage fraud profiler (USCs who have criminal records who work as dancers, nail technicians, casino dealers, etc

Petitioner has low income job, yet submitted evidence of more than one trip overseas and/or money sent to spouse overseas

Over Documentation - Petitioner submits any of the following: I-864 Affidavit of support, sight seeing photos, studio photos of the two in their wedding attire, photos of minister, groom/bride signing wedding documents, airline ticket stubs.

Yes, very absurd. Most of the reasons listed on the sheet are archaic. Couples go side seeing, they over document because the CO's

often refuse to look at all the evidence at the interview or at second interviews even when told they need more proof.

Couples take professional photos ! Woman older than man versus man older than woman is gender discrimination as is physical

mismatch.

Nail technician ? Seriously ? LOL. What an insult to all nail technicians.

Submission of I-864 ? WTH ?! Airline ticket stubs.......they are evidence !!!! Speechless on that one.

Photos of minister, signing documents......this list makes me embarrassed for them. What utter nonsense.

Culturally they like everyone to fit in a tight little box and can't comprehend that people are all individuals and many don't follow 'society' nor their

box list. I bet they took pics of their own wedding signing their marriage certificate and they go sight seeing as a couple. Man ! SMH.

Where exactly did this list originate from ? It is different from the one I posted earlier.