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Sure if you think blowing up a country and getting thousands of people killed is on the same level as fukcing up a website, then they are equally sorry.

"Blowing up a country"... now that's some pretty funny stuff, right there. I'm gonna go out on a limb and wager that you have never stepped foot in said country, am I right?

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They did kind of blow it up mate. Two countries as it goes.

Far from it, mate. Did about as much damage over there as you could do with an AR-15 and two full clips against the Grand Canyon. Or a pellet gun against Mt. Saint Helen.

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Are you talking in the cosmic sense here (like when the death star blasts Alderaan) or in the sense that most people would associate with blowing up a country (like knackering the roads, bridges and knocking out the electric?).

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"Blowing up a country"... now that's some pretty funny stuff, right there. I'm gonna go out on a limb and wager that you have never stepped foot in said country, am I right?

Yeah, Bush apologists have real short memories. We just found it that way right? That's why were rebuilding.

And now not only two wars, but they have to rebuild a website too. When will the horrors end????

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Yeah, Bush apologists have real short memories. We just found it that way right? That's why were rebuilding.

And now not only two wars, but they have to rebuild a website too. When will the horrors end????

Not apologizing for anyone. But I've been there. And the damage we caused was minimal, far less than the damage caused by their own government and people, particularly the poppy harvesters.

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Are you talking in the cosmic sense here (like when the death star blasts Alderaan)

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Yeah, Bush apologists have real short memories. We just found it that way right? That's why were rebuilding.

And now not only two wars, but they have to rebuild a website too. When will the horrors end????

So the whole Obama care total failure is ok because Bush should not have invaded Iraq.?

Such a bizarre point of view, although sadly so common . I do understand your pain. It's like when i found out Santa was not real.Oddly I did not claim he was because the tooth fairy is not real also.

By that same bizarre Logic would Oswald be off the hook because, Booth killed a Republican?

A. Bush's fault . can also be "conjure up any conservative in history that even remotely did anything similar to what is going on today. It makes it ok.

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So the whole Obama care total failure is ok because Bush should not have invaded Iraq.?

Such a bizarre point of view, although sadly so common . I do understand your pain. It's like when i found out Santa was not real.Oddly I did not claim he was because the tooth fairy is not real also.

By that same bizarre Logic would Oswald be off the hook because, Booth killed a Republican?

A. Bush's fault . can also be "conjure up any conservative in history that even remotely did anything similar to what is going on today. It makes it ok.

Just saying - the "Uh Oh's" ain't what they used to be. We've gone from "Uh Oh - I just shot this old guy in the face" to "Uh Oh - the website doesn't work. Other than that you reached your own conclusion. I didn't say Obamacare was OK or not OK, but I'm not going to call it a total failure when is doesn't even start for another 40 days.

And again - I don't get this don't bring up GWB thing. Bush was the last president before Obama. He's the obvious choice when we are comparing things like this. Just like the next guy is going to be compared and contrasted with Obama. No need to get defensive every time. Nobody said everything is Bush's fault. But his F-up's were colossal and they were his fault. Can't hide from that.

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to "Uh Oh - the website doesn't work.

It seems that's the smallest of the issues. I'd say the fact that hardly any young healthy people signing up is a much larger issue. Ohh yeah and the gaffe about keeping your coverage.

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It seems that's the smallest of the issues. I'd say the fact that hardly any young healthy people signing up is a much larger issue. Ohh yeah and the gaffe about keeping your coverage.

None of those are insurmountable. The premium increases and overall cost and deductable increases that people have been posting are are the elephant in the room. An affordable care act that fails to deliver affordable care is by definition a failure. Unless that changes that is the real issue. Yet we've seen several examples at the state level that you can have universal and affordable health care.

It can be fixed. I'm not holding my breath but I'm not going to write it off before it begins. 2014 is an election year. I'd bet it's going to be resolved one way or the other by this time next year.

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