Denied - Admin Review because of prior K1 petition

[del-2-5-2014 1,339]

Oh really...wow...crazy...

I know...it was meant to be a joke...I got a little frustrated at comments prior (and other posts) that people assume automatically a K1 applicant (from ANY country) with multiple petitions is a visa chaser. I understand and appreciate the fraud laws and protections in place...and I'm grateful for that. But one size does not fit all.

By law, a petition may only be withdrawn by the USC...so...how can it possibly be the applicants fault if she fell in love with two men...YEARS apart??? I mean come on...how many people have we been in love with throughout our lives?? Anyone that says one...don't reply...useless to lie...

So since she could not have influenced the cancellation of the previous petition by any means (other than telling him to, but she cut him off after they broke up)...how is every girl with multiple K1's a visa chaser?? She never anticipated being with another American again...or even in the first place. By chance we met and 3 yrs later...boom...problem. It just makes me mad, that's all. Not all square pegs fit in the round holes...not everyone can be bunched together. As I said before, the CO does this kind of grouping and it's unfair. He saw two case numbers and immediately assumed without even asking to see any of her proof. In my mind, he didn't do his job fully. His job is to review and see if the rela is bonafide...and so on. Sending EVERYTHING back to the USCIS is extremely inefficient. The only way to get the CO to review this is get the Congressman/Senator involved ASAP. YES I KNOW they cannot fix everything. However they can make things happen before things get worse. Sometimes that's all you need. IF the CO even did his job...ya well...I could blab on...but I won't...

More or less he is a Pinay chaser...we all know there are enough of those guys around! Again, it was meant to be a joke. Ya, I guess jokes are taken in wrong context by some. Calling him a Pinay chaser as well is a joke...in case anyone needs clarification.

Was this necessary?

Glad to hear your situation worked out. Yea, it's a little different than mine - however it still magnifies the issue that USCIS is extremely inefficient at canceling previous petitions.

You mentioning that you wrote multiple letters to cancel...and then still nothing...makes a little sense. When I spoke with the ex, he mentioned he sent (2) letters to withdraw the original petition. When I asked if he had any proof...nothing. I asked if he even had one of both of those letters he sent...nothing. Can anyone tell that I love the word USELESS by now??? HAHA!

Anyhow, still mind boggling to me that he was yet able to apply for another K1, get it...and now be married to another Pinay...totally insane. NOW...I'm the one with issues because of his sh*t past. Totally depressing scenario. I wouldn't wish this on any of my enemies.

And this? Why is it his fault that USCIS/DOS dropped the ball?

What are you talking about?? Dragging him through the mud?? How am I even doing anything remotely close to that?? Well, first off - I'm not. Second, he has a moral responsibility to help (not that anyone seems to care about morals anymore!). While you may be right...he doesn't HAVE to...but I never put a knife to him, threatened him, nor did I speak negatively to him at all. I wasn't aware there were sides to K1 petitions? If the petitioner "cancels" his petition, and marries another woman...great...more power to him. It's supposed to cover ALL...not half...or one side of the petition. So you mean that if the US Citizen cancels their petition, they can move on...but the applicant can never again apply with another US Citizen? That doesn't make sense at all. The applicant has no power to withdraw the petition...as I tried this. EVERYTHING has to come from him only. Obviously the situation was NOT fixed and his "side" was not completely handled...or else my Fiancee would be getting her passport back in a few days with a visa in it. Matter of fact, after my Fiancee called him initially, he insisted on speaking with me and trying to resolve the issue since I am the other petitioner. I have to be honest and say that he was more willing to help than I anticipated.

He also mentioned that he is willing to help because he does not want to be the reason my Fiancee and I cannot be happy. Again, he is happily married himself.

I don't think you fully grasped the situation. Perhaps you were reflecting on how you would feel if another man called you up and asked for assistance in withdrawing your petition with your ex-Fiancee (his current one)?? Maybe - I now have pity on that man if that ever happened - he is screwed. Either way...I don't feel I am dragging him in the mud at all...nor did he ever give off that vibe at all.

Wishful thinking aside I think you should be thankful that he is a stand up person though I don't know if he would be as welcoming as he is if he knew how you are lambasting him on the internet.

[Me_Theo 25]

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Edited November 15, 2013 by Me_Theo

[Me_Theo 25]

Mr big D 1983 ,

I don't know why you are so angry from him ?

May be she took some money and cheat on him or … also he could forget the hurts.

Until two days ago her memory doesn't work about him to remember even his name , suddenly after people ((here ) advice you to find the man anyway , she found his number and …. who knows may be she called to another person that you think he is "him"

or may be she had more than one person on k-1 visa and she just told you one of them.

you are in love and blind with love now. or may be you spent so much money on her during 3 years also you don't want believe the true or searching the true . I hope,I am wrong about your girl. but you should be ( wake up )

Have a great day.

[bigD1983 5]

Mr big D 1983 ,

I don't know why you are so angry from him ?

May be she took some money and cheat on him or … also he could forget the hurts.

Until two days ago her memory doesn't work about him to remember even his name , suddenly after people ((here ) advice you to find the man anyway , she found his number and …. who knows may be she called to another person that you think he is "him"

or may be she had more than one person on k-1 visa and she just told you one of them.

you are in love and blind with love now. or may be you spent so much money on her during 3 years also you don't want believe the true or searching the true . I hope,I am wrong about your girl. but you should be ( wake up )

Have a great day.

Sounds like you have had some bad experiences...blind with love? Ummm...I don't think that's the case here. Easy to see that from the outside I'm sure. Seems like you need to meet better women. You grasp as straws to downplay my relationship and suggest there is malice?? I'm shocked and offended and will no consider any post you have from here forward.

She didn't even know I was posting online. She started looking for that number days ago...how can you possibly know what we have been going through based on blog postings only??

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

OP is in a frustrating situation, cut him some slack. He is angry at the situation and not the beneficiary's ex.
He has a plan to proceed with now and no need to nit pick and criticize.
OP, I don't know if you are serving in the military in Afghanistan but if you do.....thank you for your service !

Hoping all will work out for you soon.

Best wishes for a resolve.

[bigD1983 5]

Was this necessary?

And this? Why is it his fault that USCIS/DOS dropped the ball?

Wishful thinking aside I think you should be thankful that he is a stand up person though I don't know if he would be as welcoming as he is if he knew how you are lambasting him on the internet.

Yes, it was necessary. My jokes...maybe not. I shouldn't have joked I guess...but I am trying to make light of a horrible situation. Did I ever post that it was his fault? If I did...I should correct it. I didn't mean to say that it's his fault I'm here...but in a non-direct way it is at the same time. I cannot do anything unless he contacts USCIS and corrects this (direct quote from USCIS). He did not retain ANY records of cancellations or letters to USCIS that he said he sent before. He did in fact do his part to take care of himself...the fact remains that I am in the situation I am in now because of actions that need to be taken AGAIN on his part....so yes...indirectly the ball is in his court...sadly.

All wishful thinking aside...YES..I am very grateful he is willing to help - he is definitely being a stand up person. I am trying to hold all personal feelings aside and deal with the situation rather than "lambasting" him on here. How did I lambast him?? Jokes? Come on...I don't think I did that at all. Again, I think you are confusing your own personal feelings here. Although I do appreciate your input in the post...I don't wish to know how you would deal with it if you were him.

[bigD1983 5]

OP is in a frustrating situation, cut him some slack. He is angry at the situation and not the beneficiary's ex.

He has a plan to proceed with now and no need to nit pick and criticize.

OP, I don't know if you are serving in the military in Afghanistan but if you do.....thank you for your service !

Hoping all will work out for you soon.

Best wishes for a resolve.

Wow...someone that understands. Thanks a lot!! Yes I'm mad at the situation and not so much him - although I must admit a little jealous also that he is living the good life while me...well I'm having to deal with someone else's past that is currently ruining me from making my own future. I do know that he is the only one that can fix the situation...and that frankly bothers the hell out of me. I wish the plan to proceed was working a little better...I seem to be reaching points where I think I know what to do...then do it...then get stuck. It's not really a dead-end I know...however it's just as frustrating. Again, I apparently "lambasted" him...whatever...bottom line is that I'm VERY grateful he is willing to help. I simply just got overcome with stress and dealing with the location in which I work as well...this isn't easy. Not an apology...but an explanation.

I am on the phone right now with the US Embassy Manila...I have (3) numbers to call for the consular section...and none are working:

The Embassy’s main trunk line +63 2301-2000 is experiencing technical issues and prone to congestion. If your call can’t get through please use these numbers: +63 2301-2166 or +63 2301-2177

Well they are working, just no answer. I'm guessing there are THAT MANY people calling?? Does anyone have anyway to contact them?

I am not in the Military, but working as an IT contractor - for and along-side the Military here. I am a Veteran though. I appreciate your gratitude, I feel the same and tell the Military thank you all the time as well. They are my security as I travel around this crappy country for work.

[Me_Theo 25]

Another case some kind of like yours

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/465623-k1-approved-but-petitioner-cut-her-off/?p=6649010

[bigD1983 5]

Another case some kind of like yours

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/465623-k1-approved-but-petitioner-cut-her-off/?p=6649010

Kind of the same...but not the same. Her situation has a few things wrong that are not the same as me. My Fiancee's ex is willing to help. Myself, I am not leaving her. Endless discussions between us over the last few days have lead us to start making contingency plans just in case. We already have a house in Manila that we have lived in for almost 2 years. Worst case, we can get married in the Philippines and still be together. If we so chose, we can file a CR1 visa later - although we might be in for another fight and investigation because of previous petitions...oh well. We have even gone so far as to plan the rest of our lives together in the Philippines should this hit one giant wall and go no where. We are happy together and love each other with all our hearts. We do not want to be separated and whether that's living in the US or in the Philippines...we are willing to do that.

[David & Diana R 1,005]

See post #4 of this thread.

You tell'em!

[David & Diana R 1,005]

Mr big D 1983 ,

I don't know why you are so angry from him ?

May be she took some money and cheat on him or … also he could forget the hurts.

Until two days ago her memory doesn't work about him to remember even his name , suddenly after people ((here ) advice you to find the man anyway , she found his number and …. who knows may be she called to another person that you think he is "him"

or may be she had more than one person on k-1 visa and she just told you one of them.

you are in love and blind with love now. or may be you spent so much money on her during 3 years also you don't want believe the true or searching the true . I hope,I am wrong about your girl. but you should be ( wake up )

Have a great day.

I second this!!

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

I second this!!

What is wrong with you people to invent a romance novel gone bad just because someone is asking a specific immigration question ?

Slow day at the office or what ?

These speculations and assumptions are just that....assumptions from total strangers. Geez, give me a break and stick to the topic.

[Calicolom 266]

There must be a lot more people out there this happen to. There are a lot of bad people on the internet that use people, and then throw them away. The Beneficiary needs to make sure they get all the copies and all the information from the USC from the beginning. I would think there is a way to cancel a petition by the beneficiary when the USC pulls this kind of stunt.

[bigD1983 5]

What is wrong with you people to invent a romance novel gone bad just because someone is asking a specific immigration question ?

Slow day at the office or what ?

These speculations and assumptions are just that....assumptions from total strangers. Geez, give me a break and stick to the topic.

Appreciated...thanks a lot. Nice to really see that not everyone is so narrow minded.

[bigD1983 5]

There must be a lot more people out there this happen to. There are a lot of bad people on the internet that use people, and then throw them away. The Beneficiary needs to make sure they get all the copies and all the information from the USC from the beginning. I would think there is a way to cancel a petition by the beneficiary when the USC pulls this kind of stunt.

I agree! It's insane to me...especially since my Fiancee didn't know there was even a pending petition - YES...she knew and told me from the start that she applied with him before and we included that on ALL documents...to include his name! Still, it was a total shock that she couldn't do ANYTHING about the petition, let alone she didn't know it was actually active still after almost 4 yrs. So even if she DID know...what could she have done? Contact him maybe...yes...but we would still be in the same boat as now. Regardless, he was able to get married with another petition...and now we can't...amazing...really amazing...

**Update**

I will be calling the USCIS tomorrow with him on conference call. He doesn't have any of the documents he filed with her years ago, or any case numbers. So I'm hoping they can get his info by social, name, etc...something. I'll get whatever proof the USCIS will give him, as well as have him write a letter that's notarized. Yes, a bit overkill...but I'm done playin games...this whole mess is making me insane. He is willing to help which I am blessed for. I will be sure to thank him and let him know that I do appreciate his help BIG TIME! I have since calmed down and realize my comments and JOKES before (because that's all they were...) were in the heat of the moment and should have been rethought prior to posting. Anyway, time moves on and all I can do now is focus on how to remedy the situation.

We did check the CEAC again this morning and saw that the status has been updated...already. My congressional office told me that they were not able to hold the petition in USEM Manila but it first showed AP on 14Nov...yet 4 days later it's updated again in the review process?? It showed reviewed on the 18th this morning. I know that it's not even the 18th yet in the US when we checked that...the only place it was the 18th already was there in Manila and here in Afghanistan...soooo...I'm hoping that's a good thing!!! I think that the congressional office had some influence and caused them to review it again before sending the petition out from the USEM and back to NVC/USCIS. This might be a stretch and wishful thinking on my part but I'm trying to stay positive!!!

I would like to thank everyone again that posted something worth reading. Thanks for being involved, providing insight, and confirming some things for me - you know who you are. The others that wasted their time posting useless opinions and are trying to be moral police....kick rocks!

I'll provide another update once we hear something or after I call USCIS on Tuesday. I hope this post and everything that has been said is able to help someone in the future going through this rough time....because it REALLY sucks!!