Last Year President Obama Reportedly Told His Aides That He's 'Really Good At Killing People'

[Ban Hammer 13,340]

This will not go over well for the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize winner.

According to the new book “Double Down,” in which journalists Mark Halperin and John Heilemann chronicle the 2012 presidential election, President Barack Obama told his aides that he’s “really good at killing people” while discussing drone strikes.

Peter Hamby of The Washington Post noted the moment in his review of the book.

The reported claim by the commander-in-chief is as indisputable as it is grim.

Obama oversaw the 2009 surge in Afghanistan, 145 Predator drone strikes in NATO’s 2011 Libya operations, the May 2011 raid that killed Osama bin Laden, and drone strikes that killed the Pakistani Taliban leader and a senior member of the Somali-based militant group al-Shabab this week.

His administration also expanded the drone war: There have been 326 drone strikes in Pakistan, 93 in Yemen, and several in Somalia under Obama, compared to a total of 52 under George Bush.

In 2011 two of those strikes killed American-born al-Qaeda propagandist Anwar al-Awlaki and his American-born, 16-year-old son within two weeks.

Under Obama U.S. drone operators began practicing “signature strikes,” a tactic in which targets are chosen based on patterns of suspicious behavior and the identities of those to be killed aren't necessarily known. (The administration counts all “military-age males” in a strike zone as combatants.)

Furthermore, the disturbing trend of the “double tap” — bombing the same place in quick succession and often hitting first responders — has become common practice.

Obama has also embraced the expansion of capture/kill missions by Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) after it developed into the primary counterterrorism tool of the Bush administration.

One JSOC operator told investigative journalist Jeremy Scahill, author of “Dirty Wars: The World Is A Battlefield,” that global operations under Obama became “harder, faster, quicker — with the full support of the White House.”

Scahill, who also made a “Dirty Wars” documentary, told NBC News that Obama will “go down in history as the president who legitimized and systematized a process by which the United States asserts the right to conduct assassination operations around the world.”

Needless to say, a lot of innocent people have been killed along with combatants.

So although President Obama has proven to be “really good at killing people,” the demonstration has not necessarily been noble.

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-said-hes-really-good-at-killing-people-2013-11?utm_source=slate&utm_medium=referral&utm_term=partner

[Peikko 1,575]

It is a bad US policy, I totally agree. I can't hear any Republican politicians complaining and asking for a policy change, can you? Why is the opposition so silent on this issue?

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

It is a bad US policy, I totally agree. I can't hear any Republican politicians complaining and asking for a policy change, can you? Why is the opposition so silent on this issue?

Because they are all the same. You only imagine they are different. They all want to restrict people's rights, just different ones. On some restrictions and violations of rights they agree. Killing Muslims in foreign countries by remote control without a trial is something they all agree on. Why is this so difficult to understand?

How is someone that wants to take away your guns any different than someone that wants to take away you right to choose an abortion? Isn't wanting to take away your privacy the same as taking away your free speech?

If you are not "pro-freedom" what difference does it make which freedoms you want to take away?

[lostinblue 1,989]

anti-war liberals still kiss his butt....... It is clear now it is only the republicans that they hate. Where was the antiwar crowd when the kenyan begged to start a war in Syria... The kenyan has killed thousands of innocent women and children.I posted a list of names a while back. You hear the BS when he wants to take our gun rights away... IF it would save the life of ONE child..... from the lips of the man who has murdered thousands... in the name of his"security".

[lostinblue 1,989]

anti-war liberals still kiss his butt....... It is clear now it is only the republicans that they hate. Where was the antiwar crowd when the kenyan begged to start a war in Syria... The kenyan has killed thousands of innocent women and children.I posted a list of names a while back. You hear the BS when he wants to take our gun rights away... IF it would save the life of ONE child..... from the lips of the man who has murdered thousands... in the name of his"security".

Children Murdered By Drone Strikes At The Hands Of Obama

Name | Age | Gender

PAKISTAN

Noor Aziz | 8 | male

Abdul Wasit | 17 | male

Noor Syed | 8 | male

Wajid Noor | 9 | male

Syed Wali Shah | 7 | male

Ayeesha | 3 | female

Qari Alamzeb | 14| male

Shoaib | 8 | male

Hayatullah KhaMohammad | 16 | male

Tariq Aziz | 16 | male

Sanaullah Jan | 17 | male

Maezol Khan | 8 | female

Nasir Khan | male

Naeem Khan | male

Naeemullah | male

Mohammad Tahir | 16 | male

Azizul Wahab | 15 | male

Fazal Wahab | 16 | male

Ziauddin | 16 | male

Mohammad Yunus | 16 | male

Fazal Hakim | 19 | male

Ilyas | 13 | male

Sohail | 7 | male

Asadullah | 9 | male

khalilullah | 9 | male

Noor Mohammad | 8 | male

Khalid | 12 | male

Saifullah | 9 | male

Mashooq Jan | 15 | male

Nawab | 17 | male

Sultanat Khan | 16 | male

Ziaur Rahman | 13 | male

Noor Mohammad | 15 | male

Mohammad Yaas Khan | 16 | male

Qari Alamzeb | 14 | male

Ziaur Rahman | 17 | male

Abdullah | 18 | male

Ikramullah Zada | 17 | male

Inayatur Rehman | 16 | male

Shahbuddin | 15 | male

Yahya Khan | 16 |male

Rahatullah |17 | male

Mohammad Salim | 11 | male

Shahjehan | 15 | male

Gul Sher Khan | 15 | male

Bakht Muneer | 14 | male

Numair | 14 | male

Mashooq Khan | 16 | male

Ihsanullah | 16 | male

Luqman | 12 | male

Jannatullah | 13 | male

Ismail | 12 | male

Taseel Khan | 18 | male

Zaheeruddin | 16 | male

Qari Ishaq | 19 | male

Jamshed Khan | 14 | male

Alam Nabi | 11 | male

Qari Abdul Karim | 19 | male

Rahmatullah | 14 | male

Abdus Samad | 17 | male

Siraj | 16 | male

Saeedullah | 17 | male

Abdul Waris | 16 | male

Darvesh | 13 | male

Ameer Said | 15 | male

Shaukat | 14 | male

Inayatur Rahman | 17 | male

Salman | 12 | male

Fazal Wahab | 18 | male

Baacha Rahman | 13 | male

Wali-ur-Rahman | 17 | male

Iftikhar | 17 | male

Inayatullah | 15 | male

Mashooq Khan | 16 | male

Ihsanullah | 16 | male

Luqman | 12 | male

Jannatullah | 13 | male

Ismail | 12 | male

Abdul Waris | 16 | male

Darvesh | 13 | male

Ameer Said | 15 | male

Shaukat | 14 | male

Inayatur Rahman | 17 | male

Adnan | 16 | male

Najibullah | 13 | male

Naeemullah | 17 | male

Hizbullah | 10 | male

Kitab Gul | 12 | male

Wilayat Khan | 11 | male

Zabihullah | 16 | male

Shehzad Gul | 11 | male

Shabir | 15 | male

Qari Sharifullah | 17 | male

Shafiullah | 16 | male

Nimatullah | 14 | male

Shakirullah | 16 | male

Talha | 8 | male

YEMEN

Afrah Ali Mohammed Nasser | 9 | female

Zayda Ali Mohammed Nasser | 7 | female

Hoda Ali Mohammed Nasser | 5 | female

Sheikha Ali Mohammed Nasser | 4 | female

Ibrahim Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 13 | male

Asmaa Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 9 | male

Salma Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 4 | female

Fatima Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 3 | female

Khadije Ali Mokbel Louqye | 1 | female

Hanaa Ali Mokbel Louqye | 6 | female

Mohammed Ali Mokbel Salem Louqye | 4 | male

Jawass Mokbel Salem Louqye | 15 | female

Maryam Hussein Abdullah Awad | 2 | female

Shafiq Hussein Abdullah Awad | 1 | female

Sheikha Nasser Mahdi Ahmad Bouh | 3 | female

Maha Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 12 | male

Soumaya Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 9 | female

Shafika Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 4 | female

Shafiq Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 2 | male

Mabrook Mouqbal Al Qadari | 13 | male

Daolah Nasser 10 years | 10 | female

AbedalGhani Mohammed Mabkhout | 12 | male

Abdel- Rahman Anwar al Awlaki | 16 | male

Abdel-Rahman al-Awlaki | 17 | male

Nasser Salim | 19

http://www.infowars.com/here-are-all-the-children-murdered-by-drone-strikes-at-the-hands-of-obama/

Edited November 4, 2013 by lostinblue

[Neonred 3,562]

Who cares? They are all from Pakistan.

[Sarah Elle-Même 660]

Who cares? They are all from Pakistan.

Except the ones from Yemen, clearly noted on the list.

I will add that this list has been in part compiled by Jeremy Scahill. The documentary, Dirty Wars, based on his fairly newly released book, is available on Netflix. It is worth a watch.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Who cares? They are all from Pakistan.

What a thing to say on an immigration board. I guess that Pakistani visa applicants might feel a bit different about it.

Edited November 4, 2013 by Martin Wellbourne

[Sarah Elle-Même 660]

What a thing to say on an immigration board. I guess that Pakistani visa applicants might feel a bit different about it.

This particular sub-forum is frequented by many folks who suffer from what I call the "Brown Scare". Similar but not identical to "Red Scare". Depends on the day.

[Pooky 3,784]

Furthermore, the disturbing trend of the double tap bombing the same place in quick succession and often hitting first responders has become common practice.

This is plain evil.

There was a time when medical personnel were off-limits, even in times of war. Seems the USA has forgotten how to act in a civilized manner.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Because they are all the same. You only imagine they are different. They all want to restrict people's rights, just different ones. On some restrictions and violations of rights they agree. Killing Muslims in foreign countries by remote control without a trial is something they all agree on. Why is this so difficult to understand?

How is someone that wants to take away your guns any different than someone that wants to take away you right to choose an abortion? Isn't wanting to take away your privacy the same as taking away your free speech?

If you are not "pro-freedom" what difference does it make which freedoms you want to take away?

And those basic concepts are soooooooooo freaking simple. It never fails, that when you criticize one political party or the other, the response is always..Yes but what about..........

Since we have a dem in the white house it is usually Bush or Reagan they about.

They are all wolves, just in different dress.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Except the ones from Yemen, clearly noted on the list.

I will add that this list has been in part compiled by Jeremy Scahill. The documentary, Dirty Wars, based on his fairly newly released book, is available on Netflix. It is worth a watch.

Why do you think we get all aroused when a bad guy is killed by a Hell Fire from a drone, but if an Apache fires it,,well it's cool.

Geez..I am sick of hearing about this hippie bitching drone B.S.

Would the U.S. please go back to strikes with manned Air Craft that have far greater chance for error, than drones, so the brainless will stop complaining.

Remember when the Hippietards bitched about , Tibet, The Rain Forests, Genetically engineered foods, the Sudan, etc etc

But hey it's cool to complain about drones....

[Sarah Elle-Même 660]

Why do you think we get all aroused when a bad guy is killed by a Hell Fire from a drone, but if an Apache fires it,,well it's cool.

Geez..I am sick of hearing about this hippie bitching drone B.S.

Would the U.S. please go back to strikes with manned Air Craft that have far greater chance for error, than drones, so the brainless will stop complaining.

Remember when the Hippietards bitched about , Tibet, The Rain Forests, Genetically engineered foods, the Sudan, etc etc

But hey it's cool to complain about drones....

I have a problem with the military industrial complex in general. We are waging a perpetual war that only succeeds in creating more enemies than it destroys. We know this, yet we still are okay with spending billions of taxpayer dollars and sending our men and women in the service into harms way. Weaponized drones, if they are used in places where we already have an established war, are pretty much the same as any other weapon for me. But they were marketed to the American public very differently. Drones do not make our troops in Afghanistan or anywhere else safer, which their proponents all insist they do. We have less casualties these days because there are less combat operations. Period. But that would be the case whether we used drones or not. The enemy now seems to get more creative, like recently poisoning the drinking water supply at Marine bases in Helmand with antifreeze. Why isn't that story on the news, huh? Much of the ANF/ANA enlisted men are Taliban. That's not an opinion - it's just true. The only folks I see gaining from this long lost cause are contractors and aviation and weapons manufacturers, and their pocketed politicians on the beltway, of course.

But the drone usage doesn't end in Afghanistan. To go all over the globe killing people a secret court determines should die when we hardly see any evidence of wrongdoing, targeting all males of a certain age range because they "could" be insurgents, killing innocent people which ONLY emboldens our enemies and sends more locals to their ranks, and decimating the sovereignty of foreign governments who were once our allies in the never-ending war on "terrorism" (less true of Pakistan but more true of Yemen)? This is not acceptable, and it's not sustainable because we've created a perfect storm that has no end.

Edited November 5, 2013 by Sarah and Adnan

[GandD 5,966]

Where was the antiwar crowd when the kenyan begged to start a war in Syria...

Everyone on this site that I saw said no to Syria. Some of them even part of the antiwar crowd. Remember?

[Karee 4,190]

killing innocent people which ONLY emboldens our enemies and sends more locals to their ranks,

Both sides should sign a treaty saying they will stop killing innocent people.