Whats wrong with USCIS?

[Avery Cates 1,141]

How can you say that? People who are actually in a legally binding marital union, a contract as another post said, should have no reason for any preferential treatment? Doesn't logic dictate that they should because they're married and recognized by the government as a legal entity? Or am I taking crazy pills here?

Yes, it damages the relationship in the sense that it puts strain on it that is unecessary given the natue of the backlog I detailed above. It's not needed and is only causing spousal couples to suffer in an unneeded way. And it makes things even worse when you have a child on the way and won't get to see them until they'll be walking and talking, as is my case.

The only real difference between a K-1 and a CR-1 is "these people will be married in a few months" vs "these people already ran off and did it." No practical difference that would necessitate any sort of priority.

I suppose so far as I see it I'll put my 4 year relationship that's never faltered who some here erroneously think should be of a lesser priority up against any one of these who are "damaged by the wait" any day when it comes to relevance.

[r060106 109]

The only real difference between a K-1 and a CR-1 is "these people will be married in a few months" vs "these people already ran off and did it." No practical difference that would necessitate any sort of priority.

I suppose so far as I see it I'll put my 4 year relationship that's never faltered who some here erroneously think should be of a lesser priority up against any one of these who are "damaged by the wait" any day when it comes to relevance.

So if that's the only real difference, why are K-1s obviously being given preferential treatment by the USCIS over CR/IR-1s? Does it upset you at all in the least that my child, who is still in the womb, will be walking and talking by the time I'm actually allowed to live with him/her and their mother as a family? The thing I get upset with the most is that those who have gone through the K-1 process don't appear to have any empathy for us CR/IR-1s that are going through hell right now and will have to wait nearly two years to be with our spouses.

I never said you should put your relationship up against anyone. I was just saying that it makes logical sense for those of us who are already married to get some sort of preferential treatment, which is obviously far from the case right now.

Edited November 1, 2013 by r060106

[Avery Cates 1,141]

So if that's the only real difference, why are K-1s obviously being given preferential treatment by the USCIS over CR/IR-1s?

I never said you should put your relationship up against anyone. I was just saying that it makes logical sense for those of us who are already married to get some sort of preferential treatment, which is obviously far from the case right now.

You would have to ask USCIS what the deal is. They were probably trying to clear the massive backlog of K-1s, they figured CR-1s had been going good for a while, so they diverted some resources. That whole circle of life in USCIS thing I mentioned before.

"Would be better for me" does not equal "logical." There is 0 reason CR-1s should have some sort of special priority. Being apart is being apart.

[r060106 109]

You would have to ask USCIS what the deal is. They were probably trying to clear the massive backlog of K-1s, they figured CR-1s had been going good for a while, so they diverted some resources. That whole circle of life in USCIS thing I mentioned before.

"Would be better for me" does not equal "logical." There is 0 reason CR-1s should have some sort of special priority. Being apart is being apart.

No, they don't care about spousal visas anymore. Like I said before, unlike the backlog in K-1s, which they cleared, they obviously aren't doing anything to clear the spousal visa backlog and the current obscenely long wait time with almost no approvals for the past few months is proof of that.

When did I say better for me? What are you talking about? I completely disagree with you. But to each their own.

[Avery Cates 1,141]

They'll probably start caring again in about 6 months, and you'll start seeing them fly out again.

This whole thing is nothing but a waiting game, no matter what route you go. If your relationship can't handle that, then I don't know what to tell you.

[r060106 109]

They'll probably start caring again in about 6 months, and you'll start seeing them fly out again.

This whole thing is nothing but a waiting game, no matter what route you go. If your relationship can't handle that, then I don't know what to tell you.

Yeah, no they won't. Like I've said five billion times, these long processing times are here to stay because they're obviously not doing anything to fix the situation. So we won't see them flying again. Fast K-1s are likely the new norm.

I never said my relationship can't handle that. Stop putting words in my mouth please. WHAT I DID SAY was that it doesn't help us put up with the process anymore with a child on the way, and the fact that that changes nothing in the USCIS' eyes is also very upsetting.

[Avery Cates 1,141]

For USCIS' part, they're not looking to have any fast track way, regardless of circumstances, otherwise it will be abused and everyone will just do that. I half suspect they intentionally stop anything that's going a little to well.

Just gotta wait for your time on the wheel. Those who took the CR-1 path because it was supposedly quicker (or whatever reason they had) have currently landed on a whammy. It'll spin again in 6 months or so and you'll probably be back in good fortune.

[r060106 109]

All wishful thinking. I can't wait to actually be a father when my child is 2 or 3. Oh the joy.....

[cherieseah 0]

hey the dude, you can get on a leaky boat to anywhere you want for all i care. I have fought for my country and your comments about it make it a good thing that you are not standing in front of me right now. A lousy gov't does not mean the US is a rotting cesspool or that it sucks. You know what you can do with your insults.

I feel for all the ppl going thru the torment of waiting for the gov't to do what should take way less time to do. If it's any comfort at all, a cpl years down the road this will seem like nothing. I'm sure it's been expressed before, but patience, just hang in there, it'll happen.

I agree with you Jimbo, the torment of simply waiting can get increasingly frustrating and stressful. I think we all also tend to build up our own anxieties because of so many unknowns. Hang in there everyone.

After my husband and I received our NOA2, we never heard back from USCIS or NVC, never received a package from them and had no idea our next step was to pay the a couple of fees and start filing our second package to them. We only figured it out after sifting through VJ and looking at the tiny print on one of our receipts. Don't know if anyone else experienced this, maybe we missed something then. Point is, we sent our package in July 2013, and got the interview in October 2013.

The wait seems long but it will pass, stay calm and know there are VJers out there who are willing to help and lend advice.

[r060106 109]

I agree with you Jimbo, the torment of simply waiting can get increasingly frustrating and stressful. I think we all also tend to build up our own anxieties because of so many unknowns. Hang in there everyone.

After my husband and I received our NOA2, we never heard back from USCIS or NVC, never received a package from them and had no idea our next step was to pay the a couple of fees and start filing our second package to them. We only figured it out after sifting through VJ and looking at the tiny print on one of our receipts. Don't know if anyone else experienced this, maybe we missed something then. Point is, we sent our package in July 2013, and got the interview in October 2013.

The wait seems long but it will pass, stay calm and know there are VJers out there who are willing to help and lend advice.

Hang in there doesn't work for me. Not when I have a child on the way and my wife will have to take care of him/her without me for the next two years almost.

It sounds like you did DCF, because that's pretty fast.

Yes, the wait is very long and honestly right now, I don't even see any end in sight and feel like it will never end (which with the way USCIS has been processing things doesn't seem like an impossibility). I won't even know how to react when my wife is finally here and probably won't believe it for at least the first three months. I just don't think it helps your situation or makes you feel any better when you're told to hang in there and that it will pass, when right now it feels like it never will. This backlog is brutal and they just don't care.

[lucybelle 453]

Those who took the CR-1 path because it was supposedly quicker (or whatever reason they had) have currently landed on a whammy. It'll spin again in 6 months or so and you'll probably be back in good fortune.

While I do agree that CR1 should not necessarily have priority over K1, I feel quite offended that you just casually throw around that we "landed on a whammy". These are families we're talking about. People who miss each other and deserve to be with each other. People who are frustrated that they are being forced to wait for extended amounts of time and can do close to nothing about it.

If we had known that the CR1 visa would take this excruciating amount of time perhaps we would have decided to do things differently. To somehow suggest that it's our fault that we'll have to wait until the end of the world just for a freaking NOA2 is really baffling and demeaning.

[cherieseah 0]

Hang in there doesn't work for me. Not when I have a child on the way and my wife will have to take care of him/her without me for the next two years almost.

It sounds like you did DCF, because that's pretty fast.

Yes, the wait is very long and honestly right now, I don't even see any end in sight and feel like it will never end (which with the way USCIS has been processing things doesn't seem like an impossibility). I won't even know how to react when my wife is finally here and probably won't believe it for at least the first three months. I just don't think it helps your situation or makes you feel any better when you're told to hang in there and that it will pass, when right now it feels like it never will. This backlog is brutal and they just don't care.

No, I did not do DCF and had to go through the lengthy waiting processes and stress just like everyone else. It must be much harder with a child on the way, and I'm sorry this has to add to your stress. I don't envy anyone who has to go through this, not after having done it myself. No, it isn't fun and almost everything about it sucks - but that's how this whole process is gonna go and hanging in there may be the only way to save yourself some sanity.

What helped me was hearing what others had to say and knowing there were people who were going through the exact same thing as me, though some worse than others. I hope you find what you need that will help you with this process. All I was trying to say is that you're not alone, no matter how much it sucks. I too, felt like there was no end in sight at several points as well and now I can finally make plans to move. We're all trying to be helpful and supportive, isn't that why we're here?

[r060106 109]

While I do agree that CR1 should not necessarily have priority over K1, I feel quite offended that you just casually throw around that we "landed on a whammy". These are families we're talking about. People who miss each other and deserve to be with each other. People who are frustrated that they are being forced to wait for extended amounts of time and can do close to nothing about it.

If we had known that the CR1 visa would take this excruciating amount of time perhaps we would have decided to do things differently. To somehow suggest that it's our fault that we'll have to wait until the end of the world just for a freaking NOA2 is really baffling and demeaning.

Very well said. Avery's comments have come across as extremely callous and cold. I agree.

[cdneh 3,112]

Hang in there doesn't work for me. Not when I have a child on the way and my wife will have to take care of him/her without me for the next two years almost.

It sounds like you did DCF, because that's pretty fast.

Yes, the wait is very long and honestly right now, I don't even see any end in sight and feel like it will never end (which with the way USCIS has been processing things doesn't seem like an impossibility). I won't even know how to react when my wife is finally here and probably won't believe it for at least the first three months. I just don't think it helps your situation or makes you feel any better when you're told to hang in there and that it will pass, when right now it feels like it never will. This backlog is brutal and they just don't care.

It isn't USCIS's fault you have a child on the way, now is it. That's a choice you made. Pregnancy or having children do not give K1's any right to expedite either. CR1's and K1's are as different as apples and oranges, and you can't compare them. Neither group gets priority, it goes in swings and roundabouts, it always has and it always will. We all paid our money, and took our chances.

ALL waiting apart is terrible, ALL separation sucks. No group's pain is any worse, or any more valid than the other. Venting by bashing another group as having perceived advantages is pointless, fruitless, and extremely non productive, and not in the spirit of Visa Journey. .

[lucybelle 453]

No, I did not do DCF and had to go through the lengthy waiting processes and stress just like everyone else.

Man I really don't want to do a competition over who has it worse. But how can you possibly compare your three month experience with people who have been waiting for 9-10 months just for NOA2?