Discrimination Suit At Barneys New York Is Quickly Becoming Jay-Z’s Problem

[Danno 1,228]

I think it's more of Jersey twang than anything else.

Sure, in NJ you have the NY variation - Yo vinny

Or the phili style -Hey youse guys, how bout we get a pie? (Pizza)

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I hate to keep correcting you (well not really) but this is how I addressed you.

<<<<Where is Marvin when you want his take?

>>>>

You have a big presence here my friend but not so big that every subject title that has to do with a Black person is about you.

Um, the fact that you asked where I was, doesn't that make it about me?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

1. You could have invited my perspectve without the use of slang. I've made it clear here several times how I feel about that and the use of the n-word, yet for some reason folks still feel compelled to address me as such.

2. Last time I checked, I'm not Obama or Hillary, and if they addressed me in the same manner, I'd check them too.

3. You move and speak on facts that you agree with. Because if it's black on white, you're 100% behind it without a shred of proof. If it's the other way around, you ask for mountains and mountains of proof. Even then, you still maintain a certain facade of doubt.

Link to Jay-Z Lyrics

Is that YO B*****

Warning..Foul offensive language in lyrics, don't click if bad language offends you

Sample

I got your b*** in my Rover man

I never kiss her, I never hold her hand

In fact I diss her I'm a bolder man

I'mma pimp her, it's over man

It's over man, it's over man

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/jayz/isthatyobitch.html

[Danno 1,228]

Um, the fact that you asked where I was, doesn't that make it about me?

Yes, that Post was about you.

Contributing to a subject does not mean you are the subject.

[decocker 7,198]

Link to Jay-Z Lyrics

Is that YO B*****

Warning..Foul offensive language in lyrics, don't click if bad language offends you

Sample

I got your b*** in my Rover man

I never kiss her, I never hold her hand

In fact I diss her I'm a bolder man

I'mma pimp her, it's over man

It's over man, it's over man

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/jayz/isthatyobitch.html

what in the world does this have to do with anything?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

what in the world does this have to do with anything?

Oh Nothing..what? Your kidding right?

[Danno 1,228]

Link to Jay-Z Lyrics

Is that YO B*****

Warning..Foul offensive language in lyrics, don't click if bad language offends you

Sample

I got your b*** in my Rover man

I never kiss her, I never hold her hand

In fact I diss her I'm a bolder man

I'mma pimp her, it's over man

It's over man, it's over man

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/jayz/isthatyobitch.html

And this is who the president honored with a white house visit?

Just when you think Obama might be leading the movement away from the destructive Black pop-culture... you see he gives it cred in the highest levels.

Tsk Tsk Tsk

[mota bhai 2,675]

Can we just accept the fact that some people here don't like black people and move on already? Racism is no big deal when it's on a message board. Who cares!

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Yes, that Post was about you.

Contributing to a subject does not mean you are the subject.

Then what was the subject? Clearly the article said what it meant to say, and Jay-Z already responded in kind.

And this is who the president honored with a white house visit?

Just when you think Obama might be leading the movement away from the destructive Black pop-culture... you see he gives it cred in the highest levels.

Tsk Tsk Tsk

You really are a piece of work.

Edited October 28, 2013 by Su and Marvin

[decocker 7,198]

Oh Nothing..what? Your kidding right?

i don't think anyone was proposing that jay z has never used the term 'yo' or 'diss' but thanks for the proof positive.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

i don't think anyone was proposing that jay z has never used the term 'yo' or 'diss' but thanks for the proof positive.

My point was , although many blacks speak much more correct English than I ever will, Marvin probably being one of them, the. slang, that was allegedly used here, that was supposed to be black slang was called offensive and racist. However it is widely used, popular and accepted by black culture . I don't see how that makes Danno a racist for pointing that out. Any more than it would make him a hater of southern people to point out our distinctive speech and colloquialisms.It's just fact, nothing more nothing less. .

[Penny Lane 8,159]

I'm still laughing at Danno calling him "JZ" for some reason.

[JohnR! 5,495]

Meanwhile is the real world....

NEW YORK (AP) - Jay-Z — under increasing pressure to back out of a collaboration with the luxury store Barneys New York after it was accused of racially profiling two black customers — said Saturday he's being unfairly "demonized" for just waiting to hear all of the facts.

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The rap mogul made his first statement about the controversy in a posting on his website. He has come under fire for remaining silent as news surfaced this week that two young black people said they were profiled by Barneys after they purchased expensive items from their Manhattan store.

An online petition and Twitter messages from fans have been circulating this week, calling on the star to bow out of his upcoming partnership with Barneys for the holiday season, which will have the store selling items by top designers, inspired by Jay-Z, with some of the proceeds going to his charity. He is also working with the store to create its artistic holiday window display.

But Jay-Z — whose real name is Shawn Carter — defended himself, saying that he hasn't spoken about it because he's still trying to figure out exactly what happened.

"I move and speak based on facts and not emotion," the statement said. "I haven't made any comments because I am waiting on facts and the outcome of a meeting between community leaders and Barneys. Why am I being demonized, denounced and thrown on the cover of a newspaper for not speaking immediately?" he said, referring to local newspaper headlines.

The two Barneys customers, Trayon Christian and Kayla Phillips, said this week they were detained by police after making expensive purchases.

Christian sued Barneys, saying he was accused of fraud after using his debit card to buy a $349 Ferragamo belt in April. Philips filed a notice of claim saying she would sue after she was stopped by detectives outside the store when she bought a $2,500 Celine handbag in February.

As the criticism grew, Barneys said Thursday it had retained a civil rights expert to help review its procedures. The CEO of Barneys, Mark Lee, offered his "sincere regret and deepest apologies."

Kirsten John Foy, an official with the Rev. Al Sharpton's National Action Network, said he would meet with Barneys officials on Tuesday to discuss the racial profiling allegations.

Jay-Z — who rose from a life of crime in Brooklyn to become one of the most heralded rappers and one of entertainment's biggest superstars — has in the past called for a boycott of labels perceived to be racist, and has become more political in recent years, from speaking out about the killing of black teenager Trayvon Martin to campaigning for President Barack Obama.

Jay-Z said in this case, he's still trying to find out what happened —which is why he was silent.

"The negligent, erroneous reports and attacks on my character, intentions and the spirit of this collaboration have forced me into a statement I didn't want to make without the full facts," he added.

He also dismissed reports that he would profit from the collaboration. He said he's "not making a dime" from working with Barneys. Instead, his Shawn Carter Foundation, which provides college scholarships to economically challenged students, will get 25 percent of all sales from the collaboration.

"This money is going to help individuals facing socio-economic hardships to help further their education at institutions of higher learning," he said. "My idea was born out of creativity and charity... not profit."

He also said that "making a decision prematurely to pull out of this project wouldn't hurt Barneys or Shawn Carter but all the people that stand a chance at higher education," he said. "I have been working with my team ever since the situation was brought to my attention to get to the bottom of these incidents and at the same time find a solution that doesn't harm all those that stand to benefit from this collaboration."

Jay-Z said he understood what it felt like to be racially profiled — but also didn't want to jump to unfair conclusions.

"I am against discrimination of any kind but if I make snap judgments, no matter who it's towards, aren't I committing the same sin as someone who profiles?" he asked. "I am no stranger to being profiled and I truly empathize with anyone that has been put in that position. Hopefully this brings forth a dialogue to effect real change."

Earlier Saturday, Sharpton held a rally at his National Action Network headquarters in Harlem, saying black New Yorkers should put shopping at Barneys "on hold" if the retailer's response is inadequate.

But it is not the only retailer accused of racially profiling its customers.

Some Sharpton supporters who attended Saturday's rally said they had been profiled in other stores, too. Shane Lee, 51, said he went to the high-end store Bergdorf Goodman to buy shirts last year and the sales staff would not assist him.

"Instead of helping me, they were staring at me," said Lee, who is black. "I felt so uncomfortable that I just left."

A Bergdorf Goodman official did not return a call seeking comment Saturday.

On Friday, Rob Brown, a black actor on the HBO series "Treme" said he was stop because of his race while shopping at Macy's flagship Manhattan store. Brown said in his lawsuit that he was detained nearly an hour by police June 8 after employees contacted authorities about possible credit card fraud.

Macy's didn't comment on the litigation but said in a statement it was investigating.

Read more: http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/10/jay-z-defends-deal-with-barneys-new-york-96028.html#ixzz2j1vohEqs
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Edited October 28, 2013 by Gegel

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Two thumbs up for him. we need more common sense

move and speak based on facts and not emotion," the statement said. "I haven't made any comments because I am waiting on facts and the outcome of a meeting between community leaders and Barneys."

[decocker 7,198]

My point was , although many blacks speak much more correct English than I ever will, Marvin probably being one of them, the. slang, that was allegedly used here, that was supposed to be black slang was called offensive and racist. However it is widely used, popular and accepted by black culture . I don't see how that makes Danno a racist for pointing that out. Any more than it would make him a hater of southern people to point out our distinctive speech and colloquialisms.It's just fact, nothing more nothing less. .

best bet, don't try and be funny with your titles - stick to the title of the article.

second, don't post something about a rapper and then muse where is the one active black dude? in the p&r forum. it isn't racist - it's poor taste - something we're all accustomed to here at vj.