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Filed: Other Country: Ireland
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Greetings!

Can some one please clarify if a greencard holder can sponsor her sister as a student ? If so,

Does she need to file form affidavit of support I-134 or I-864 ?

I strongly believe its not I-864 because its used for family based application, Please correct me if I am wrong?

If it is I-134, I cant find any thing mention about F1, Is this the form?

Thank you

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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You can hand over the money for her schooling if that is what you mean, sponsorship means something else.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Filed: Other Country: Ireland
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You can hand over the money for her schooling if that is what you mean, sponsorship means something else.

she can use the money in their home country but wanted to pay the same or little more and do the same course of study in usa. she has a sister in usa to help her . us government clearly states ''arrange financial means'', well this is financial means for her, the sister in usa is welling to help and provide it. So what do you think, which form should they use as means of support or how the greencard holder should start?

Thanks

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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Nothing to do with her Sister, she has the money so she just needs to demonstrate that she can fund her course of study.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Filed: Country: Vietnam (no flag)
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You cannot use an affidavit of support for an international student. No I-134!or I-864. That's why you will not find anything on these forms relating to an F-1 student.

The sister will need an I-20 from a qualified US university before she can even apply for the student visa.

To get the I-20, the sister would need proof that the tuition and cost of living is available in a US bank. So $20,000 at least. Also, it doesn't matter if the student will stay in the US for free. The cost of living is always included in the amount the student must have.

So, no I-134 or I-864 is accepted for a F-1 student visa.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ukraine
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You cannot use an affidavit of support for an international student. No I-134!or I-864. That's why you will not find anything on these forms relating to an F-1 student.

The sister will need an I-20 from a qualified US university before she can even apply for the student visa.

To get the I-20, the sister would need proof that the tuition and cost of living is available in a US bank. So $20,000 at least. Also, it doesn't matter if the student will stay in the US for free. The cost of living is always included in the amount the student must have.

So, no I-134 or I-864 is accepted for a F-1 student visa.

Well actually, I filled out an I-134 which helped a student get the needed I-20 form from the University; and then later helped the student when they were interviewed for the F-1 visa at American Consulate in their home country.

So the I-134 may not be spelled out as a requirement when applying for F-1 visa; but it sure helps because it lists valuable info that helps the University fill in the I-20 and is impressive to Interviewing Officer at American Embassy or Consulate.


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10 YEAR GREEN CARD PROCESS

July 22, 2017  ROC packet sent to Vermont.

July 24, 2017  ROC packet signed for in Vermont.

August 8, 2017  NOA received at house.  15 days since ROC signed for in VSC.

August 12, 2017 ASC appointment received. 19 days since ROC in VSC.

August 25, 2017 BIO completed. 32 days since ROC received in VSC.

August 11, 2018  18 month 'Courtesy Copy' extension letter received.  Critical number  297

October 20, 2018 18 month 'Official' extension letter received.  Critical number 297

December 4, 2018  USCIS Account shows: We approved your Form I-751, Petition to Remove Conditions on Residence, 

December 4, 2018, ordered your new card for Receipt # EAC17297003XX, and will mail to the address you gave.

491 days from NOA issued by VSC until Petition approved.

December 7, 2018 USCIS sent notice:  Card mailed.

December 12, 2018 Ten year Green Card received from Lees Summit, MO

499 days from NOA issued by VSC until Green Card received.

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CITIZENSHIP PROCESS

December 6, 2018 submitted N-400 application on-line.  Estimated Completion Time: 8 months or August 2019.

December 8, 2018 received notice on USCIS that Biometrics scheduled . . . but the actual date was not yet shown.

December 11, 2018 saw in 'Documents' section of USCIS that Bio scheduled for 24 December 2018.

December 21, 2018 saw on USCIS website that they will be closed 24 December 2018 as extra holiday.

January 9, 2019 went for re-scheduled BIO appointment.  33 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

February 19, 2019 received letter in US mail that Citizenship interview scheduled for 26 March 2019. 74 days after submission on-line.

March 26, 2019 Citizenship interview scheduled for.  109 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

March 26, 2019 Passed Citizenship interview.

April 12, 2019  Received notice that Oath Ceremony had been scheduled for 24 April 2019.  17 days after interview.

April 24, 2019  Oath Ceremony completed.  29 days after interview.     139 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

April 25, 2019  USA Passport Application submitted.

May 3, 2019     USA Passport received.    149 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

May 9, 2019     Certificate of Naturalization and Citizenship returned in mail.

 

 

 

 

Filed: Other Country: Ireland
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Well actually, I filled out an I-134 which helped a student get the needed I-20 form from the University; and then later helped the student when they were interviewed for the F-1 visa at American Consulate in their home country.

So the I-134 may not be spelled out as a requirement when applying for F-1 visa; but it sure helps because it lists valuable info that helps the University fill in the I-20 and is impressive to Interviewing Officer at American Embassy or Consulate.

Hi guys,

The sister has already been accepted in a school within the usa and has a valid I-120 . Is that enough evidence to show yes she can afford to study, I don't think Visa offices just accept that?

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ukraine
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Hi guys,

The sister has already been accepted in a school within the usa and has a valid I-120 . Is that enough evidence to show yes she can afford to study, I don't think Visa offices just accept that?

What the Interviewing officer (IO) accepts at time of visit to American Embassy or Consulate depends on whether he/she is having a bad hair day, etc.

So be as prepared as possible.

In many cases, the IO will rely on the I-20 which has been filled out by the University.

The University, in turn, is supposed to have seen bank statements from student or sponsors that cover the first year's tuition and living expenses as detailed on the I-20.

But, just to be safe, I also provided the form I-134 for her to take to interview with IO, and I also provided a separate custom typed letter that summarized my financial position and stated that I would provide the financial support.


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10 YEAR GREEN CARD PROCESS

July 22, 2017  ROC packet sent to Vermont.

July 24, 2017  ROC packet signed for in Vermont.

August 8, 2017  NOA received at house.  15 days since ROC signed for in VSC.

August 12, 2017 ASC appointment received. 19 days since ROC in VSC.

August 25, 2017 BIO completed. 32 days since ROC received in VSC.

August 11, 2018  18 month 'Courtesy Copy' extension letter received.  Critical number  297

October 20, 2018 18 month 'Official' extension letter received.  Critical number 297

December 4, 2018  USCIS Account shows: We approved your Form I-751, Petition to Remove Conditions on Residence, 

December 4, 2018, ordered your new card for Receipt # EAC17297003XX, and will mail to the address you gave.

491 days from NOA issued by VSC until Petition approved.

December 7, 2018 USCIS sent notice:  Card mailed.

December 12, 2018 Ten year Green Card received from Lees Summit, MO

499 days from NOA issued by VSC until Green Card received.

- - - - - - - - - - 

CITIZENSHIP PROCESS

December 6, 2018 submitted N-400 application on-line.  Estimated Completion Time: 8 months or August 2019.

December 8, 2018 received notice on USCIS that Biometrics scheduled . . . but the actual date was not yet shown.

December 11, 2018 saw in 'Documents' section of USCIS that Bio scheduled for 24 December 2018.

December 21, 2018 saw on USCIS website that they will be closed 24 December 2018 as extra holiday.

January 9, 2019 went for re-scheduled BIO appointment.  33 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

February 19, 2019 received letter in US mail that Citizenship interview scheduled for 26 March 2019. 74 days after submission on-line.

March 26, 2019 Citizenship interview scheduled for.  109 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

March 26, 2019 Passed Citizenship interview.

April 12, 2019  Received notice that Oath Ceremony had been scheduled for 24 April 2019.  17 days after interview.

April 24, 2019  Oath Ceremony completed.  29 days after interview.     139 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

April 25, 2019  USA Passport Application submitted.

May 3, 2019     USA Passport received.    149 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

May 9, 2019     Certificate of Naturalization and Citizenship returned in mail.

 

 

 

 

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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Hi guys,

The sister has already been accepted in a school within the usa and has a valid I-120 . Is that enough evidence to show yes she can afford to study, I don't think Visa offices just accept that?

She should take documentation of the financials supporting that.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Filed: Other Country: Ireland
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She should take documentation of the financials supporting that.

So conclusion is even a F1-M1 applicant is accepted in a school in usa and has means of support, chances to obtain visa is just luck. Unless they have a well known sponsor ''recognized'' by the US government.

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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I would not say that, certainly the cases you see on here do not bear that out.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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So conclusion is even a F1-M1 applicant is accepted in a school in usa and has means of support, chances to obtain visa is just luck. Unless they have a well known sponsor ''recognized'' by the US government.

It's not luck. It's having a believable reply when asked how you intend to pay for the course of study. Unlike the schools, the visa officer has the ability to go beyond the papers presented to question why someone would sponsor a student (unless the sponsor is the parent) -- does the sister have an independent source of income or would it be from her husband's resource? Why is he willing to do this instead of saving for their own children? Etc., etc., etc. There are a lot of factors. Plus, the school only sees funds for the fist year. Visa law requires that the visa officer see that all of the funds for the first year are immediately available and that there is a believable source for remaining years. The visa will be issued if the answers to the officer's questions make sense.

 
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