cr-1 or k1,whats better plus other questions

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

I said it right.. exactly.. I'm not sure how to make it any simpler.

1) Both the I-129f and I-130 initially go to USCIS, they are handled exactly the same: Same location, same people, same work done on the forms... EXACTLY..

2) They may be prioritized differently based on many variables.. One example is the NVC.. The I-130 will create more immediate work for the NVC after NOA2 than the I-129f so if the NVC is backed up then the USCIS may prioritize I-129fs over I-130s to help reduce backlog for the NVC by reducing the incoming work temporarily... At some point they will then reverse this to catch up on the I-130s that are now behind and the I-129s may sit.

3) Saying "The I-129f will reach NOA2 faster than the I-130 " is true sometimes, is false others.

4) You are thinking that the time for people getting NOA2s today for I-129f/I-130 will be the same for people filing today. Not true... Its as valid as predicting tomorrows lottery because you know yesterdays numbers..

Knowing this can you with a good conscious tell somebody to file the K-1 because it will reach NOA2 faster? Pick a random time in the last five years and you are a lair 50% of the time...

Edited October 25, 2013 by OnMyWayID

[Cesar & Cata 35]

What did I start.

However I have been looking at these (cr1 & k1) for a couple of years now and I have to agree with this (quoted), except that I dont think USCIS cares much about NVC backlog, I think it is driven by their own (USCIA) backlog.

Several times I have seen that it is best to apply in the route that is the slowest currently (if you have a choice)... I explain, I have noticed that when things get to its worst USCIS has a way of diverting/off loading, when that happens usually the people that sent the apps latest begin to get serviced quicker, kinda what happend last year wher people from Aug and Sep got approved in 2 months for CR1 (@NBC) while people waiting on VSC from Jan, Feb and Mar. had to wait till late Dec and early 2013.

The best you can do is continue to read peoples timelines, Igor's list, and any rumors or news from USCIS. Send your application and hope for the best.

I now have my wife by my side after endruring all the stress and frustration that this process generates. Ultimatly pinning USC vs. LPR and Married vs. Engaged, the base issue is always the same, the system sucks, if its not well funded, then charge more, hire more adjudicators. But having peoples life on pause for what is currently an unknown amount of time is just not the way to go. Even today almost a year later I still feel the frustration. Stay strong people.

I said it right.. exactly.. I'm not sure how to make it any simpler.

1) Both the I-129f and I-130 initially go to USCIS, they are handled exactly the same: Same location, same people, same work done on the forms... EXACTLY..

2) They may be prioritized differently based on many variables.. One example is the NVC.. The I-130 will create more immediate work for the NVC after NOA2 than the I-129f so if the NVC is backed up then the USCIS may prioritize I-129fs over I-130s to help reduce backlog for the NVC by reducing the incoming work temporarily... At some point they will then reverse this to catch up on the I-130s that are now behind and the I-129s may sit.

3) Saying "The I-129f will reach NOA2 faster than the I-130 " is true sometimes, is false others.

4) You are thinking that the time for people getting NOA2s today for I-129f/I-130 will be the same for people filing today. Not true... Its as valid as predicting tomorrows lottery because you know yesterdays numbers..

Knowing this can you with a good conscious tell somebody to file the K-1 because it will reach NOA2 faster? Pick a random time in the last five years and you are a lair 50% of the time...

[Ryan H 3,812]

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[r060106 109]

What did I start.

However I have been looking at these (cr1 & k1) for a couple of years now and I have to agree with this (quoted), except that I dont think USCIS cares much about NVC backlog, I think it is driven by their own (USCIA) backlog.

Several times I have seen that it is best to apply in the route that is the slowest currently (if you have a choice)... I explain, I have noticed that when things get to its worst USCIS has a way of diverting/off loading, when that happens usually the people that sent the apps latest begin to get serviced quicker, kinda what happend last year wher people from Aug and Sep got approved in 2 months for CR1 (@NBC) while people waiting on VSC from Jan, Feb and Mar. had to wait till late Dec and early 2013.

The best you can do is continue to read peoples timelines, Igor's list, and any rumors or news from USCIS. Send your application and hope for the best.

I now have my wife by my side after endruring all the stress and frustration that this process generates. Ultimatly pinning USC vs. LPR and Married vs. Engaged, the base issue is always the same, the system sucks, if its not well funded, then charge more, hire more adjudicators. But having peoples life on pause for what is currently an unknown amount of time is just not the way to go. Even today almost a year later I still feel the frustration. Stay strong people.

With this current backlog, having any hope and staying strong seem like an impossibility.

So you think taking the slower route is better because they'll clear the backlog? I ask because it doesn't appear at all that they're trying to clear this backlog and are just giving preference to the DACA and Provisional Waivers. It's terrible.

[Cesar & Cata 35]

With this current backlog, having any hope and staying strong seem like an impossibility.

So you think taking the slower route is better because they'll clear the backlog? I ask because it doesn't appear at all that they're trying to clear this backlog and are just giving preference to the DACA and Provisional Waivers. It's terrible.

I know how you feel, when I was waiting for NOA2 for my CR1 the uncertainty was horrible, still bothers me today.

What I said is really from my experience when VSC was backlogged from all the apps from Jan/Feb/Mar/Apr/May 2012. The solution USCIS came up with in July 2012 was to begin taking the apps starting in Aug. to the NBC, and those people from Aug. were getting approvals in Oct (just 2 months later), If you read all the threads from Jan-May 2012 you will see the agony they went through while they saw apps that were sent many months later being approved before their own.

Now if you look at Igor's list it looks like something similar is happening, NBC is being offloaded to the other service centers (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=c8b3f5f081cc1410VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=e7801c2c9be44210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD) which are starting to approve for Jun/Jul 2013, while there are people from earlier in the year still waiting.

I am stumped, I have a friend who is asking me this same question (cr1 or k1) and I really dont know what to answer, hopefully the coming weeks will give a better idea of the trend for the next few months. All I know is that right now its in flux, once these offloading of petitions start it is really dificult to estimate when the NOA2 will come.

Edited October 25, 2013 by Cesar & Cata

[Steven.Plant 11]

What did I start.

However I have been looking at these (cr1 & k1) for a couple of years now and I have to agree with this (quoted), except that I dont think USCIS cares much about NVC backlog, I think it is driven by their own (USCIA) backlog.

Several times I have seen that it is best to apply in the route that is the slowest currently (if you have a choice)... I explain, I have noticed that when things get to its worst USCIS has a way of diverting/off loading, when that happens usually the people that sent the apps latest begin to get serviced quicker, kinda what happend last year wher people from Aug and Sep got approved in 2 months for CR1 (@NBC) while people waiting on VSC from Jan, Feb and Mar. had to wait till late Dec and early 2013.

The best you can do is continue to read peoples timelines, Igor's list, and any rumors or news from USCIS. Send your application and hope for the best.

I now have my wife by my side after endruring all the stress and frustration that this process generates. Ultimatly pinning USC vs. LPR and Married vs. Engaged, the base issue is always the same, the system sucks, if its not well funded, then charge more, hire more adjudicators. But having peoples life on pause for what is currently an unknown amount of time is just not the way to go. Even today almost a year later I still feel the frustration. Stay strong people.

I think I've learned something from you.

Your saying that you have learned to apply for the slowest makes me think you have watched and thought about this for some time. So i would ask is the curent slow down of CR1-RI1,s typical. I mean to say the USCIS posted a target of 5 months but the notices now going out, of 12-16 months, is 2-3 times longer. Is this still in the Norm of what you might see or is it different now.

Also is it common for USCIS to ship the files to other offices?

Lastly how fast are the recoverys for the most part, does USCIS start processing at 3 time the rate when doing a correction?

[Cesar & Cata 35]

I think I've learned something from you.

Your saying that you have learned to apply for the slowest makes me think you have watched and thought about this for some time. So i would ask is the curent slow down of CR1-RI1,s typical. I mean to say the USCIS posted a target of 5 months but the notices now going out, of 12-16 months, is 2-3 times longer. Is this still in the Norm of what you might see or is it different now.

Also is it common for USCIS to ship the files to other offices?

Lastly how fast are the recoverys for the most part, does USCIS start processing at 3 time the rate when doing a correction?

Yes, this swing I would consider normal at this point. I have seen VSC approving in 3 months, while CSC was taking 10 months. Then about 5 months later, it was inverted, where CSC was approving in 3 months and VSC was taking 10 months. I wonder if we should start having historical trends year to year, that may give some sense of period consistancy that may be predictable.

What I saw last year was horrible and unfair (I was in the middle of it and got incredibly lucky, check my timeline/signature). They (VSC) did start offloading, but instead of sending the old (jan-june 2012) petitions to the new service center, which was NBC, they sent the new ones from Aug 15th and forward. So the people that submitted their petition in AUG-OCT were incredibly lucky, since they went in to a new service center, most of these people were approved well before the people still stuck at VSC. My mother in law sent her petition in Dec 2012 and got NOA2 in June 2013, already showing they were backing up.

Today I read about NBC offloading to other service centers in the link i shared in my previous post. I actually have a friend with priority date in early Aug, I asked him yesterday to call and find out where his petition is since its not clear from the post which petitions are being moved. The only think I notice is that looking at the timelines, CSC and VSC have approvals for June and July, so that may be a good sign for people from those months.

[r060106 109]

I know how you feel, when I was waiting for NOA2 for my CR1 the uncertainty was horrible, still bothers me today.

What I said is really from my experience when VSC was backlogged from all the apps from Jan/Feb/Mar/Apr/May 2012. The solution USCIS came up with in July 2012 was to begin taking the apps starting in Aug. to the NBC, and those people from Aug. were getting approvals in Oct (just 2 months later), If you read all the threads from Jan-May 2012 you will see the agony they went through while they saw apps that were sent many months later being approved before their own.

Now if you look at Igor's list it looks like something similar is happening, NBC is being offloaded to the other service centers (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=c8b3f5f081cc1410VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=e7801c2c9be44210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD) which are starting to approve for Jun/Jul 2013, while there are people from earlier in the year still waiting.

I am stumped, I have a friend who is asking me this same question (cr1 or k1) and I really dont know what to answer, hopefully the coming weeks will give a better idea of the trend for the next few months. All I know is that right now its in flux, once these offloading of petitions start it is really dificult to estimate when the NOA2 will come.

I just have no faith in the system and don't expect to have my wife here for about two years.