These are Monsters, not parents.

[decocker 7,198]

Ludicrous. Thanks for confirming your myopic bias.

ETA: I can't believe an elementary cliché is needed = 2 wrongs don't make a right.

i believe that one of the major problems with society today is our inability to own up to past wrongs. we run up debt, we start never ending wars, we think slavery is in the past and has little to no effect today and racism is on the way out (if not already gone) no big deal.

2 wrongs don't make a right? how is a harmful word the same as years of harmful actions? actions that have lasting, detrimental consequences for innocent people?

it isn't ludicrous. white people don't want to be bothered with racism in this country. so we say its over, we had nothing to do with it and expect everyone to move on. myopic bias. lol.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

So you pick & choose which racial slurs are acceptable & others should be content with your choice...? Especially poor white people - they should just accept the term as fact & not be offended? Coz it does not carry the same demeaning weight of the "N" word.....got it.

Did I hear some1 say "justified racist hypocrisy" or was that just in my head?

You want an education, fine. Pull up a seat:

I don't get to pick and choose. It's a racial slur, we've confirmed it. If you say you're offended and don't want folks to say here, I'll be the first to not say it. I don't use it to describe white people, I'd rather use words that don't focus on your skin color like idiot or jerk. Because your skin color doesn't make you, your character does. Something some folks here and IRL can't seem to see.

Now, if you want to know why it doesn't carry the same weight, it's simple. If I called a woman uptight, she would probably get upset. If I called her the b word or the c word, what do you think would happen? Completely different reaction. PWT is a word to describe a class of white person, the n word is a noun used to describe ANY black person. It was screamed at black people when they hung from trees, when they were beaten to death, when they were forced out of anywhere they didn't "belong". I've had it said to me when I was younger. Why? Because I asked a white girl if she wanted to play with me, I didn't know better. When she said it, I froze. I remember running home to my mom crying. When I told her, she just hugged me and said don't let it get to you, you're better than that. This is why I don't use the word, nor do I condone anyone of any color using it.

Now, if you want to be this racial crusader, then by all means, get in the trenches with the rest of us. But then, you don't get to pick and choose. You can't sit silent when folks here talk ####### about blacks or hispanics(which is almost every day) but if someone says something about white people, you cowboy up. I've been called out the few times I let something slide, and I had to eat that crow in order to keep my moral ground.

[Crashed~N2~Me 970]

i believe that one of the major problems with society today is our inability to own up to past wrongs. we run up debt, we start never ending wars, we think slavery is in the past and has little to no effect today and racism is on the way out (if not already gone) no big deal.

2 wrongs don't make a right? how is a harmful word the same as years of harmful actions? actions that have lasting, detrimental consequences for innocent people?

it isn't ludicrous. white people don't want to be bothered with racism in this country. so we say its over, we had nothing to do with it and expect everyone to move on. myopic bias. lol.

Don't include me in your "white people don't want to be bothered with racism"...I am bothered. I ask you to consider your phrasing for a tell. What is your current level of education and applied knowledge? = Assign / Combine characterization with skin color? SMH - that's disappointing. Tell me - How does the word "white" strengthen the slur?

I don't know you so of course this is a punch at a shadow = MBG - In some ways - you are still on racism level 101. You recognize the problem. You have labeled offenses & assigned responsibility. But....you have not or do not offer the solve coz you're not finished complaining about it. Not finished processing the horror. Busy pointing the middle finger of blame.

Why waste more time myopically focused on the problem instead of proving solutions...? We all recognize the problem. The solve = current task.

(shrug) I'm sorry if my comments offend you....but that's my current pov.

[decocker 7,198]

Don't include me in your "white people don't want to be bothered with racism"...I am bothered. I ask you to consider your phrasing for a tell. What is your current level of education and applied knowledge? = Assign / Combine characterization with skin color? SMH - that's disappointing. Tell me - How does the word "white" strengthen the slur?

I don't know you so of course this is a punch at a shadow = MBG - In some ways - you are still on racism level 101. You recognize the problem. You have labeled offenses & assigned responsibility. But....you have not or do not offer the solve coz you're not finished complaining about it. Not finished processing the horror. Busy pointing the middle finger of blame.

Why waste more time myopically focused on the problem instead of proving solutions...? We all recognize the problem. The solve = current task.

(shrug) I'm sorry if my comments offend you....but that's my current pov.

okay, i wont include you but i will include myself. truth hurts. white people want to say "but i treat all people equally, i don't see color" as if that somehow betters the reality of the black experience in america.

what the hell am i complaining about? i have never once in my life been in a situation where being white hurt my position in any way. you can't find a black person in this country who can honestly say that about their own race. i'm not finished processing the horror? i don't know anything about that sort of horror outside of movies and history class. i'll never even begin to process it.

i don't offer any solution simply because i don't have any outside of being the best person i can be, living by example and educating my own about the unequal treatment of certain minorities in this country, be it the massive web of the PIC or intimidation tactics like stop and frisk or the ever present racial profiling. teaching my son about these matters has nothing to do with devaluing his self worth as a white male but to help him understand our current society and culture in relation to history.

nothing you've said offends me in any way. i've been called white trash and much much worse in my lifetime. still, wouldn't trade being white. nope, got a good thing going with this skin.

[Crashed~N2~Me 970]

You want an education, fine. Pull up a seat:

I don't get to pick and choose. It's a racial slur, we've confirmed it. If you say you're offended and don't want folks to say here, I'll be the first to not say it. I don't use it to describe white people, I'd rather use words that don't focus on your skin color like idiot or jerk. Because your skin color doesn't make you, your character does. Something some folks here and IRL can't seem to see.

Now, if you want to know why it doesn't carry the same weight, it's simple. If I called a woman uptight, she would probably get upset. If I called her the b word or the c word, what do you think would happen? Completely different reaction. PWT is a word to describe a class of white person, the n word is a noun used to describe ANY black person. It was screamed at black people when they hung from trees, when they were beaten to death, when they were forced out of anywhere they didn't "belong". I've had it said to me when I was younger. Why? Because I asked a white girl if she wanted to play with me, I didn't know better. When she said it, I froze. I remember running home to my mom crying. When I told her, she just hugged me and said don't let it get to you, you're better than that. This is why I don't use the word, nor do I condone anyone of any color using it.

Now, if you want to be this racial crusader, then by all means, get in the trenches with the rest of us. But then, you don't get to pick and choose. You can't sit silent when folks here talk ####### about blacks or hispanics(which is almost every day) but if someone says something about white people, you cowboy up. I've been called out the few times I let something slide, and I had to eat that crow in order to keep my moral ground.

1st) Please do not sensationalize my character with terms = "racial crusader". That's not who I pretend to be.

I get your pov...I think. You covered a lot of ground and I doubt I can respond to all of it effectively. I will throw out a few thoughts please -

1) I'm not sure if I'm offended by the phrase. At least - Emotionally. But.. I do think it is a racial slur & I think refraining from racial slurs helps create a more ....sensible ...level field for Americans to coexist & improve our quality of life.

2) My Grandfather outlived 2 wives whose old age medical needs broke his bank accounts and left him poor. (but) He was never trash.

3) I observe the daily race spar taking place on VJ. I think you and your opponents are doing a fine job of working through the discussion & I don't see a need to get involved & frankly...I'm not equipped with all the stats you guys/ gals throw at each other so I am not qualified to compete. Out of my league.

4) I do think most of what is discussed is similar to watching a tennis match. You guys are hitting the stats back & forth = It's a stat match & blame game.

5) I truly believe poverty is to blame for most negative stats. Color is incidental.

I do not like the way some people have treated you and continue to treat you. I abhor it. The only thing I can really do is be different in my own way & vote / lobby to my race equality POV. & maybe sometimes chirp something obtuse or astute here on VJ.

I'm not much interested in the blame game. I'm more interested in solutions. That's the fun / interesting discussion (from my pov). (but) If I happen to notice an obvious racial slur, I will probably comment - like this time. I admit - I have a leaning to bringing your attention to it coz I don't want to see you lower yourself to it. (shrugs) We all have flaws but I think you are very sincere.

(I did enjoy your Philadelphia cop video. The cops behavior & the way the Black dudes handled it made me laugh. I thought they all did a great job working through it.)

Edited October 23, 2013 by Crashed~N2~Me

[Danno 1,228]

when white america is victim of 250 years of slavery by another race and subjected to subhuman treatment for many years afterward come talk to me. until then - not the same.

NOw see there you go again, though slavery existed every where in the world you hold Whites to a higher standard.........

it's as if you just expect more from whites.

Why?

Why not instead honor whites for in many ways, ending the practice in the modern era much sooner than most parts of the world?

Need I post the time line of slavery again?

since you asked.

Modern timeline[edit] 1500–1700[edit]

• 1537: Pope Paul III forbids slavery of the indigenous peoples of the Americas as well as of any other new population that would be discovered, indicating their right to freedom and property. However, only Catholic countries apply it, and state that they cannot possibly enforce what happens in the distant colonies (Sublimus Dei).
• 1542: Spain enacted the first European law abolishing colonial slavery in 1542. Spain become the first country to abolish slavery.
• 1569: An English court case involving Cartwright, who had brought a slave from Russia, ruled that English law could not recognise slavery.
• 1588: The Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth abolishes slavery^[11]
• 1595: A law is passed in Portugal banning the selling and buying of Chinese slaves.^[12]
• 1590: Toyotomi Hideyoshi bans slavery in Japan.^[13] But it continued as a punishment for criminals.
• 19 February 1624: The King of Portugal forbids the enslavement of Chinese of either sex.^[14][15]
• 1652: Slavery abolished in Providence Plantations.

1700–1800[edit]

• 1706: In the case of Smith v. Browne & Cooper, Sir John Holt, Lord Chief Justice of England, rules that "as soon as a Negro comes into England, he becomes free. One may be a villein in England, but not a slave."^[16][17]
• 1723: Russia abolishes outright slavery but retains serfdom.^[18]
• 1723–1730: China's Yongzheng emancipation sought to free all slaves to strengthen the autocratic ruler through a kind of social leveling that created an undifferentiated class of free subjects under the throne. Although these new regulations freed the vast majority of slaves, wealthy families continued to use slave labor into the twentieth century.^[10]
• 1761, 12 February: Portugal abolishes slavery^[19] in mainland Portugal and in Portuguese possessions in Indiathrough a decree by the Marquis of Pombal.
• 1772: Somersett's case held that no slave could be forcibly removed from Britain. This case was generally taken at the time to have decided that the condition of slavery did not exist under English law in England and Wales, and emancipated the remaining ten to fourteen thousand slaves or possible slaves in England and Wales, who were mostly domestic servants.^[20]
• 1774 Laws of the Marquis of Pombal, prime minister of King José I. prohibiting the transport of black slaves to Portugal and the liberation of the children of slaves born in Portugal
• 1775: Pennsylvania Abolition Society formed in Philadelphia, the first abolition society in North America.
• 1777: Slavery abolished in Madeira, Portugal^[21]
• 1777: Constitution of the Vermont Republic bans slavery.^[21]
• 1780: Pennsylvania passes An Act for the Gradual Abolition of Slavery, freeing future children of slaves. Those born prior to the Act remain enslaved for life. The Act becomes a model for other Northern states. Last slaves freed 1847.^[22]
• 1783: Russia abolishes slavery in Crimean Khanate^[23]
• 1783: Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court rules slavery illegal based on 1780 state constitution. All slaves are immediately freed.^[24]
• 1783: Joseph II, Holy Roman Emperor issued an order abolishing slavery in Bukovina on 19 June 1783 inCzernowitz^[25]
• 1783: New Hampshire begins a gradual abolition of slavery.
• 1784: Connecticut begins a gradual aboliton of slavery, freeing future children of slaves, and later all slaves.^[26]
• 1784: Rhode Island begins a gradual abolition of slavery.
• 1787: The United States in Congress Assembled passed the Northwest Ordinance of 1787 outlawing any new slavery in the Northwest Territories.
• 1787: Sierra Leone founded by Britain as colony for emancipated slaves^[27]
• 1787: Society for the Abolition of the Slave Trade founded in Britain^[21]
• 1788: Sir William Dolben's Act regulating the conditions on British slave ships enacted
• 1792: Denmark-Norway declares transatlantic slave trade illegal after 1803 (though slavery continues in Danish colonies to 1848)^[28]
• 1793: Upper Canada (Ontario) abolishes import of slaves by Act Against Slavery
• 1794: France abolishes slavery in all its possessions; slavery is restored by Napoleon in 1802.^[29]
• 1799: New York State passes gradual emancipation act freeing future children of slaves, and all slaves in 1827.^[30]
• 1799: The Colliers (Scotland) Act 1799 ends the legal slavery of Scottish coal miners that had been established in 1606.^[31]

1800–1849[edit]

• 1802: The First Consul Napoleon re-introduces slavery on French colonies growing sugarcane.^[19]
• 1802: Ohio writes a state constitution that abolishes slavery.
• 1803: Denmark-Norway: abolition of transatlantic slave trade takes effect 1 January 1803.
• 1804: New Jersey begins a gradual abolition of slavery, freeing future children of slaves.^[26] Those born prior to the Act remain enslaved for life.
• 1804: Haiti declares independence and abolishes slavery^[21]
• 1805: Great Britain: bill for Abolition passed in Commons, rejected in the House of Lords.
• 1806: U.S. President Thomas Jefferson in a message to Congress calls for criminalizing the international slave trade, asking Congress to "withdraw the citizens of the United States from all further participation in those violations of human rights … which the morality, the reputation, and the best of our country have long been eager to proscribe."
• 1807, 2 March: Jefferson signs the Act Prohibiting Importation of Slaves into law in the U.S. which took effect 1 January 1808.
• 1807, 25 March: Abolition of the Slave Trade Act abolishes slave trading in British Empire. Captains fined £120 per slave transported.
• 1807: 22 July: The constitution of the Duchy of Warsaw abolishes serfdom
• 1807: The British begin patrols of African coast to arrest slaving vessels. The West Africa Squadron (Royal Navy) is established to suppress slave trading; by 1865, nearly 150,000 people freed by anti-slavery operations^[32]
• 1807: Abolition of serfdom in Prussia through the Stein-Hardenberg Reforms.
• 1807: In the U.S. Northwest Territory (present-day Michigan), Territorial Justice Augustus Woodward denies the return of two slaves owned by a man in Windsor, Upper Canada (present day Ontario). Woodward declares that any man “coming into this Territory is by law of the land a freeman.”^[33]
• 1808: In the United States, Act Prohibiting Importation of Slaves takes effect 1 Jan.^[34]
• 1810: In Mexico, Miguel Hidalgo y Costilla declares slavery abolished. In the following years, during the Mexican War of Independence, gradually comprehensive steps will end slavery in the new country.
• 1811: Slave trading made a felony in the British Empire punishable by transportation for British subjects and foreigners.
• 1811: Spain abolishes slavery at home and in all colonies except Cuba,^[19]Puerto Rico, and Santo Domingo
• 1811: The First National Congress of Chile approves a proposal drafted by Manuel de Salas that declares the Freedom of wombs, which sets free the sons of slaves born on Chilean territory, no matter the conditions of the parents; it prohibited the slave trade and recognized as freedmen those who, passing in transit through Chilean territory, stayed there for six months.
• 1813: Mexico abolishes slavery in the documents Sentimientos de la Nación, by insurgent leader José María Morelos y Pavón
• 1813: In Argentina, the Law of Wombs was passed on 2 February, by the Assembly of Year XIII. The law stated that those born after 31 January 1813 would be granted freedom when contracting matrimony, or on their 16th birthday for women and 20th for men, and upon their manumission would be given land and tools to work it. In 1853, slavery was completely abolished.
• 1814: Uruguay, before its independence, declares all those born of slaves in their territories are free from that day forward.
• 1814: The Netherlands outlaws slave trade.
• 1815: British pay Portugal £750,000 to cease their trade north of the Equator^[35]
• 1815: Congress of Vienna. Eight victorious powers declared their opposition to slavery
• 1816: Serfdom abolished in Estonia.
• 1817: Serfdom abolished in Courland.
• 1817: Spain paid £400,000 by British to cease trade to Cuba, Puerto Rico, and Santo Domingo^[35]
• 1817: New York State sets a date of 4 July 1827 to free all its slaves.^[36]
• 1818: Treaty between Britain and Spain to abolish slave trade^[37]
• 1818: Treaty between Britain and Portugal to abolish slave trade.^[37]
• 1818: France abolishes slave trading.
• 1818: Treaty between Britain and the Netherlands taking additional measures to enforce the 1814 ban on slave trading^[37]
• 1819: Serfdom abolished in Livonia.
• 1819: Upper Canada: Attorney-General John Robinson declares all black residents of Canada free.
• 1820: Mexico formally abolishes slavery with the Plan of Iguala, proposed by Agustín de Iturbide and ratified the following year by him and the Viceroy, Juan O'Donojú.
• 1820: Compromise of 1820 in U.S. prohibits slavery north of a line (36°30').
• 1820: Indiana supreme court in Polly v. Lasselle orders almost all slaves in the state to be freed.
• 1821: Gran Colombia (Ecuador, Colombia, Venezuela, Panama) declares free the sons and daughters born to slave mothers, sets up program for compensated emancipation^[38]
• 1822: Liberia founded by American Colonization Society (USA) as a colony for emancipated slaves.
• 1822: Greece abolishes slavery
• 1823: Chile abolishes slavery^[21]
• 1824: Mexico's new Constitution (1824 Constitution of Mexico) effectively frees existing slaves.
• 1824: The Federal Republic of Central America abolishes slavery.
• 1825: Uruguay declares independence from Brazil and prohibits the traffic of slaves from foreign countries.
• 1827: Treaty between Britain and Sweden to abolish slave trade^[37]
• 1828: New York State abolishes slavery. Children born between 1799 and 1827 are indentured until age 25 (females) or age 28 (males).^[39]
• 1829: Last slaves are freed in Mexico.^[21]
• 1830: Mexican president Anastasio Bustamante orders the abolition of slavery to be implemented also in Mexican Texas. To circumvent the law, many Anglo colonists convert their slaves into "indentured servants for life".
• 1830: The first Constitution of Uruguay declares the abolition of slavery.
• 1831: Bolivia abolishes slavery^[21]
• 1834: The British Slavery Abolition Act comes into force, abolishing slavery throughout most of the British Empire. Legally frees 700,000 in West Indies, 20,000 in Mauritius, 40,000 in South Africa. The exceptions, territories controlled by the Honourable East India Company and Ceylon, were liberated in 1843 when they became part of the British Empire.^[40]
• 1835: Serbia abolishes slavery^[41] Although formally outlawed in 1835, slavery never existed in Serbia. During its occupation by the Ottoman Empire, however, male Serbian children were regularly taken to be trained as janissaries.
• 1835: Treaty between Britain and France to abolish slave trade^[37]
• 1835: Treaty between Britain and Denmark to abolish slave trade^[37]
• 1836: Portugal abolishes transatlantic slave trade
• 1836: Republic of Texas is established. Slavery is made legal again.
• 1836 (December) – Viscount Sa da Bandeira, prime minister, prohibits the import and export of slaves from the Portuguese colonies south of the Equator.
• 1838, 1 August: Enslaved men, women and children in the British Empire finally became free after a period of forced apprenticeship following the passing of the Slavery Abolition Act in 1833
• 1839: British and Foreign Anti-Slavery Society founded, now called Anti-Slavery International
• 1839: Indian indenture system made illegal (reversed in 1842)
• 1840: Treaty between Britain and Venezuela to abolish slave trade;^[37] the first World Anti-Slavery Convention meets in London.
• 1841: Quintuple Treaty is signed; Britain, France, Russia, Prussia, and Austria agree to suppress slave trade^[21]
• 1842: Treaty between Britain and Portugal to extend the enforcement of the ban on slave trade to Portuguese ships sailing south of the Equator.
• 1843: Honourable East India Company becomes increasingly controlled by Britain and abolishes slavery in India by the Indian Slavery Act V. of 1843.
• 1843: Treaty between Britain and Uruguay to suppress slave trade^[37]
• 1843: Treaty between Britain and Mexico to suppress slave trade^[37]
• 1843: Treaty between Britain and Chile to suppress slave trade^[37]
• 1843: Treaty between Britain and Bolivia to abolish slave trade^[37]
• 1845: 36 British Royal Navy ships are assigned to the Anti-Slavery Squadron, making it one of the largest fleets in the world.
• 1846: Persuaded by Britain the Bey of Tunisia outlawed the slave trade; the policy was reversed temporarily by his successor.^[42]
• 1847: Under British pressure the Ottoman Empire abolishes slave trade from Africa.^[43]
• 1847: Sweden abolishes slavery^[44]
• 1847: Slavery is abolished in Pennsylvania, thus freeing the last remaining slaves, those born before 1780 (fewer than 100 in 1840 Census).^[45]
• 1848: Slavery abolished in all French and Danish colonies^[21][44]
• 1848: France founds Gabon for settlement of emancipated slaves.
• 1848: Treaty between Britain and Muscat to suppress slave trade^[37]
• 1849: Treaty between Britain and Persian Gulf states to suppress slave trade^[37]

1850–1899[edit]

• 1850: In the United States, the Fugitive Slave Law of 1850 requires return of escaped slaves
• 1851: New Granada (Colombia) abolishes slavery^[38]
• 1852: The Hawaiian Kingdom abolishes kauwa system of serfdom.^[46]
• 1853: Argentina abolishes slavery when promulgating the 1853 Constitution
• 1854: Peru abolishes slavery^[21]
• 1854: Venezuela abolishes slavery^[21][38]
• 1855: Moldavia partially abolishes slavery.^[47]
• 1856: Wallachia partially abolishes slavery.^[47]
• 1860: Indenture system abolished within British-occupied India.
• 1861: Russia frees its serfs in the Emancipation reform of 1861.^[48]
• 1862: Treaty between United States and Britain for the suppression of the slave trade (African Slave Trade Treaty Act).^[37]
• 1862: Cuba abolishes slave trade^[21]
• 1863: Slavery abolished in Dutch colonies.^[49]
• 1863: In the United States, Abraham Lincoln signs the Emancipation Proclamation which declared slaves inConfederate-controlled areas to be freed. Most slaves in "border states" are freed by state action; separate law freed the slaves in Washington, D.C.
• 1865: December: U.S. abolishes slavery with the Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution; about 40,000 remaining slaves are affected.^[50]
• 1866: Slavery abolished in Indian Territory (now Oklahoma).^[51]
• 1869 (February, 27th) – Portugal: King Louis signs a decree of the government, chaired by the Marquis Sá da Bandeira, abolishing slavery in all Portuguese territories.
• 1869: Portugal abolishes slavery in the African colonies
• 1871: Brazil Rio Branco Law declares free the sons and daughters born to slave mothers after 28 September 1871.^[52]
• 1873: Slavery abolished in Puerto Rico
• 1873: Treaty between Britain and Zanzibar and Madagascar to suppress slave trade^[37]
• 1874: Britain abolishes slavery in the Gold Coast (now Ghana), following its annexation in 1874.^[53]
• 1882: Ottoman firman abolishes all forms of slavery, white or black.^[54]
• 1885: Brazil passes Sexagenarian Law freeing all slaves over the age of 60.
• 1886: Slavery abolished in Cuba^[21]
• 1888: May, 13th Brazil passes Golden Law, abolishing slavery without indemnities to slaveowners or aid to newly freed slaves.^[55]
• 1890: Brussels Conference Act – a collection of anti-slavery measures to put an end to the slave trade on land and sea especially in the Congo Basin, the Ottoman Empire and the East African coast
• 1894: Korea officially abolishes slavery, but it survives in practice until 1930.^[56]
• 1896: France abolishes slavery in Madagascar
• 1897: Zanzibar abolishes slavery^[57] following its becoming a British protectorate
• 1899: France abolishes slavery in Ndzuwani

1900–present[edit]

• 1902: Ethiopian Empire abolishes slavery (though it was not legally and officially abolished by Emperor Haile Selassie until 1942).
• 1906: China formally abolishes slavery effective 31 January 1910, when all adult slaves were converted into hired labourers and the young were freed upon reaching age 25.^[18]
• 1912: Siam (Thailand), formally abolishes all slavery. The act of selling a person into slavery was abolished in 1897 but slavery itself was not outlawed at that time.^[58]
• 1921: Nepal abolishes slavery.^[59][60]
• 1922: Morocco abolishes slavery.^[61]
• 1923: Afghanistan abolishes slavery.^[62]
• 1924: Iraq abolishes slavery.
• 1924: League of Nations Temporary Slavery Commission
• 1926, 25 September: Convention to Suppress the Slave Trade and Slavery bound all signatories to end slavery.
• 1928: Iran abolishes slavery.^[63]
• 1928: Domestic slavery practised by local African elites abolished in Sierra Leone.^[64] Though established as a place for freed slaves, a study found practices of domestic slavery still widespread in rural areas in the 1970s.
• 1935: Italian General Emilio De Bono proclaims slavery to be abolished in the Ethiopian Empire.^[65]
• 1936: Britain abolishes slavery in Northern Nigeria.^[66]
• 1945: In the aftermath of the defeat of Nazi Germany and Japan, workcamps for slave labor were closed by the liberators.
• 1946: Fritz Sauckel, procurer of slave labor for Nazi Germany, is convicted at the Nuremberg trials and executed as awar criminal.
• 1948: UN Article 4 of the Declaration of Human Rights bans slavery globally.^[67]
• 1952: Qatar abolishes slavery.
• 1959: Slavery in Tibet is abolished by China after the Dalai Lama flees.
• 1960: Niger abolishes slavery (though it was not made illegal until 2003).^[68]
• 1962: Saudi Arabia abolishes slavery.
• 1962: Yemen abolishes slavery.
• 1963: United Arab Emirates abolishes slavery.
• 1970: Oman abolishes slavery.
• 1981: Mauritania abolishes slavery.^[69][70][71]
• 2003 Niger makes slavery a crime.^[72]
• 2007: Mauritania makes slavery a crime.^[73]
• 2010: The United Kingdom makes slavery a crime.^[74]
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolition_of_slavery_timeline

Compare the USA to the rest of the world.

Why not hold the rest of the world to the same standard?

Two sets of standards is "Soft bigotry", shame on you.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

If we referred to a group of Asians as "Yellow trash" would that not be considered racist? (and hate=speech?

Of course it would.

[decocker 7,198]

NOw see there you go again, though slavery existed every where in the world you hold Whites to a higher standard.........

it's as if you just expect more from whites.

Why?

Why not instead honor whites for in many ways, ending the practice in the modern era much sooner than most parts of the world?

Compare the USA to the rest of the world.

Why not hold the rest of the world to the same standard?

Two sets of standards is "Soft bigotry", shame on you.

why? i live in america. i'm referring to american history. i'm well aware that slavery exists.

"Why not instead honor whites for in many ways, ending the practice in the modern era much sooner than most parts of the world?" BARF, danno. honor whites for ending slavery in the modern era? oh dude, we still have slavery in america.

shame on me? lol. since you're so interested in the standards of the rest of the world, why don't you compare us imprisonment numbers to everyone else. then break that down by race.

why do you support modern day slavery in the us?

[Danno 1,228]

Of course it would.

Yeah I couldn't believe that was the response.

On the other hand they usually avoid going on record by refusing to answer the question.

[Danno 1,228]

"Why not instead honor whites for in many ways, ending the practice in the modern era much sooner than most parts of the world?" BARF, danno. honor whites for ending slavery in the modern era? oh dude, we still have slavery in america.

shame on me? lol. since you're so interested in the standards of the rest of the world, why don't you compare us imprisonment numbers to everyone else. then break that down by race.

why do you support modern day slavery in the us?

Sure, almost all the credit goes to the UK, just read the time line.

PLease Val, lets not skirt the issue by going off topic in a comparison of Slavery to people in prison.

While exploring the high rates of incarceration is a worthy debate, these two subjects just don't connect.

[decocker 7,198]

PLease Val, lets not skirt the issue by going off topic in a comparison of Slavery to people in prison.

While exploring the high rates of incarceration is a worthy debate, these two subjects just don't connect.

no connection? obviously you need to do some research on the topic. giyf.

it will be difficult for you to grasp the truth, however, considering your inability to recognize the realities of the systemic racism in this country.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

1st) Please do not sensationalize my character with terms = "racial crusader". That's not who I pretend to be.

I get your pov...I think. You covered a lot of ground and I doubt I can respond to all of it effectively. I will throw out a few thoughts please -

1) I'm not sure if I'm offended by the phrase. At least - Emotionally. But.. I do think it is a racial slur & I think refraining from racial slurs helps create a more ....sensible ...level field for Americans to coexist & improve our quality of life.

2) My Grandfather outlived 2 wives whose old age medical needs broke his bank accounts and left him poor. (but) He was never trash.

3) I observe the daily race spar taking place on VJ. I think you and your opponents are doing a fine job of working through the discussion & I don't see a need to get involved & frankly...I'm not equipped with all the stats you guys/ gals throw at each other so I am not qualified to compete. Out of my league.

4) I do think most of what is discussed is similar to watching a tennis match. You guys are hitting the stats back & forth = It's a stat match & blame game.

5) I truly believe poverty is to blame for most negative stats. Color is incidental.

I do not like the way some people have treated you and continue to treat you. I abhor it. The only thing I can really do is be different in my own way & vote / lobby to my race equality POV. & maybe sometimes chirp something obtuse or astute here on VJ.

I'm not much interested in the blame game. I'm more interested in solutions. That's the fun / interesting discussion (from my pov). (but) If I happen to notice an obvious racial slur, I will probably comment - like this time. I admit - I have a leaning to bringing your attention to it coz I don't want to see you lower yourself to it. (shrugs) We all have flaws but I think you are very sincere.

(I did enjoy your Philadelphia cop video. The cops behavior & the way the Black dudes handled it made me laugh. I thought they all did a great job working through it.)

Thank you for explaining your pov.

It's a pet peeve(not you exactly) that folks want to harp on reverse racism here but still discriminate against black and hispanic people. If I condemn one I have to condemn both. This is why I think black folks who say the n word should catch more hell if they say it. It's so sad we've turned it into something that's cool. I also think when we say cracker or PWT, we're losing ground.

[Danno 1,228]

You want an education, fine. Pull up a seat:

I don't get to pick and choose. It's a racial slur, we've confirmed it. If you say you're offended and don't want folks to say here, I'll be the first to not say it. I don't use it to describe white people, I'd rather use words that don't focus on your skin color like idiot or jerk. Because your skin color doesn't make you, your character does. Something some folks here and IRL can't seem to see.

Now, if you want to know why it doesn't carry the same weight, it's simple. If I called a woman uptight, she would probably get upset. If I called her the b word or the c word, what do you think would happen? Completely different reaction. PWT is a word to describe a class of white person, the n word is a noun used to describe ANY black person. It was screamed at black people when they hung from trees, when they were beaten to death, when they were forced out of anywhere they didn't "belong". I've had it said to me when I was younger. Why? Because I asked a white girl if she wanted to play with me, I didn't know better. When she said it, I froze. I remember running home to my mom crying. When I told her, she just hugged me and said don't let it get to you, you're better than that. This is why I don't use the word, nor do I condone anyone of any color using it.

Now, if you want to be this racial crusader, then by all means, get in the trenches with the rest of us. But then, you don't get to pick and choose. You can't sit silent when folks here talk ####### about blacks or hispanics(which is almost every day) but if someone says something about white people, you cowboy up. I've been called out the few times I let something slide, and I had to eat that crow in order to keep my moral ground.

I can agree with a lot of this Marvin, concisely that the words are not equal on the slur meter.

A slap to the face is not a punch nor is it a kick.

Mr BigDog feels free to Slap.

When you slap someone, it naturally will lead to an escalation which is why I think it best to not start down such avenues.

[Danno 1,228]

no connection? obviously you need to do some research on the topic. giyf.

it will be difficult for you to grasp the truth, however, considering your inability to recognize the realities of the systemic racism in this country.

Your avoiding the topic again.

Idle prisoners are not slaves, that is a different topic al together.

Why do you blame whites for slavery more than any other group?

Why not Indians for example?

[Janelle2002 3,865]

Your avoiding the topic again.

Idle prisoners are not slaves, that is a different topic al together.

Why do you blame whites for slavery more than any other group?

Why not Indians for example?

huh?

My great great grandmother was Native American Indian and a slave. Sooooooo are you serious?