Visa REFUSED... Again. Didn't even go thru AP/AR.

[krinamej 1]

So, I got an email from my fiance's mother this morning saying that I need to call her husband ASAP.

I called and I couldn't understand why he was proposing to me that we (my son and I) need to go back home to the Philippines. So I called my fiance's mother and ask. Apparently, they got an email two days ago saying that the visa is refused again, and on the document, the one that is checked is, "You have not established an adequate financial blah blah blah", when I have sent a letter, and pay stubs from my second employer this time around. Included my mother and stepfather's I-864 and I-134, tax papers and pay stubs.

My question is, is it even possible for them to refuse the Visa without putting it on AP/AR? Because ever since we submitted more docs, I have been checking the status to see if it has been updated, and on the 15th, it was updated again to Refused, but I thought someone just touched it, not reviewed it.

What would be the possible reason why we keep getting refused, when there are others who are getting approved under SS, or no annual income and stuff like that?

Since we're refused, it is possible to apply for IR1/CR1 right? But I am really getting discouraged. I don't wanna apply if we're gonna go thru this one more time. The wait is long, the money doesn't just grow on trees. #######?!?!

Edited October 17, 2013 by krinamej

[Penguin_ie 5,993]

Yes, it is possible to be refused without AP. Manila is well known for not accepting co-sponsors for K1.

[krinamej 1]

Yes, it is possible to be refused without AP. Manila is well known for not accepting co-sponsors for K1.

Everybody tells me that. Since day 1, but how come they are approving people with co-sponsors? If it is a rule, that they cannot accept co-sponsors for K1s, then they should deny or refuse all, not pick people to give refusal/denial to. Makes no sense. It's stupid!

[fjm777 0]

I have known someone who got approved after she submitted the co-sponsor for her affidavit of support, she is also k1....

[del-2-5-2014 1,339]

Everybody tells me that. Since day 1, but how come they are approving people with co-sponsors? If it is a rule, that they cannot accept co-sponsors for K1s, then they should deny or refuse all, not pick people to give refusal/denial to. Makes no sense. It's stupid!

That's my one and only issue with this process, there is no hard and fast rule when it comes to the embassy stage.

That being said, what I've read on here is that USEM takes cosponsors for K1 when they look at a PETs future earning potential. For example, recent grad, new job, etc

Good luck.

PS: I think they have to look at co sponsor on a Spousal petition.

While USEL denied us last year, they could have easily placed my Fiancee on AP and asked me to come in and explain more stuff. They didn't but they do it for others. These things happen.

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

Accepting a co sponsor is up to the CO at the time of the interview. They are supposed to look at the likely hood that the intending immigrant will apply for means tested benefits. You apparently didn't provide enough proof that they wouldn't They do not want to be in a position of going after sponsors for repayment. So the real attitude about finances should be convince me I will never need to care how much the sponsor makes

[fjm777 0]

I just had my interview this last Oct 3, I was asked to submit additional documents of my husband, they kept my passport and everything i submitted, they did not give me 221(g) papers, but they only emailed me to submit the documents for them to continue with my visa processing...The interview went well, the consul was very nice, but she just asked for more documents... I dont want to worry about getting denied...thinking positive about it... But part of me is worrying ... any suggestions with my case... thank you in advance..........

[krinamej 1]

That's my one and only issue with this process, there is no hard and fast rule when it comes to the embassy stage.

That being said, what I've read on here is that USEM takes cosponsors for K1 when they look at a PETs future earning potential. For example, recent grad, new job, etc

Good luck.

PS: I think they have to look at co sponsor on a Spousal petition.

While USEL denied us last year, they could have easily placed my Fiancee on AP and asked me to come in and explain more stuff. They didn't but they do it for others. These things happen.

Funny thing is, he is a recent grad. And with electronics technology, that makes about $15/hr, just starting. I'm on the other hand, juggling two jobs, and a kid, have been waiting for him to come so that I can go to school.

I don't know if I really wanna go thru this again. It's so frustrating.

Thank you!

[del-2-5-2014 1,339]

Funny thing is, he is a recent grad. And with electronics technology, that makes about $15/hr, just starting. I'm on the other hand, juggling two jobs, and a kid, have been waiting for him to come so that I can go to school.

I don't know if I really wanna go thru this again. It's so frustrating.

Thank you!

I think it's just the stress right now.

If the love is there then don't let the USG decide your fate.

Get ahold of the actual denial reason and if it's strictly financial then bolster up your situation and maybe reapply either for K1 or CR1.

[krinamej 1]

Accepting a co sponsor is up to the CO at the time of the interview. They are supposed to look at the likely hood that the intending immigrant will apply for means tested benefits. You apparently didn't provide enough proof that they wouldn't They do not want to be in a position of going after sponsors for repayment. So the real attitude about finances should be convince me I will never need to care how much the sponsor makes

Right, but if it is a known fact that they cannot accept co-sponsors, then why are other COs accepting them? If that's the rule, it should apply to everybody. I submitted everything, and extra things to let them know that he will not be a public charge. We have never intended for him to be one. We're not fraud people. We don't try to work the system. The co-sponsors live in the same house, so why wouldn't it concern a CO? But whatever. Thanks, anyway.

[krinamej 1]

I think it's just the stress right now.

If the love is there then don't let the USG decide your fate.

Get ahold of the actual denial reason and if it's strictly financial then bolster up your situation and maybe reapply either for K1 or CR1.

I'm trying to, but they wouldn't tell me, apparently.

My stepfather's boss used to work for Dept of State, and said that if there is another reason why we keep getting refused, we'll never know. They'll just make us apply every time and spend our money for basically nothing.

SMDH so bad.

[krinamej 1]

I just had my interview this last Oct 3, I was asked to submit additional documents of my husband, they kept my passport and everything i submitted, they did not give me 221(g) papers, but they only emailed me to submit the documents for them to continue with my visa processing...The interview went well, the consul was very nice, but she just asked for more documents... I dont want to worry about getting denied...thinking positive about it... But part of me is worrying ... any suggestions with my case... thank you in advance..........

Since they kept your passport, that's a good sign. They gave my fiance his passport back. I knew then and there that he's not gonna get it even if we appeal or submit more docs. The consul was apparently a dxck.

You'll be fine. Just keep your head up. You'll get it.

Edited October 17, 2013 by krinamej

[fjm777 0]

You can still get a co-sponsor for k1, I have known someone who got approved after she submitted another AOS w/ co-sponsor....have they sent you any letter or email stating u got denied, Im thinking that they maybe only asking for additional documents...Im sorry to hear your disappointments , I understand... there is always hope...I am also waiting for mine... I still have to submit more documents... hoping it will all be enough and they'll issue my visa....

[makulit909 4]

So, I got an email from my fiance's mother this morning saying that I need to call her husband ASAP.

I called and I couldn't understand why he was proposing to me that we (my son and I) need to go back home to the Philippines. So I called my fiance's mother and ask. Apparently, they got an email two days ago saying that the visa is refused again, and on the document, the one that is checked is, "You have not established an adequate financial blah blah blah", when I have sent a letter, and pay stubs from my second employer this time around. Included my mother and stepfather's I-864 and I-134, tax papers and pay stubs.

My question is, is it even possible for them to refuse the Visa without putting it on AP/AR? Because ever since we submitted more docs, I have been checking the status to see if it has been updated, and on the 15th, it was updated again to Refused, but I thought someone just touched it, not reviewed it.

What would be the possible reason why we keep getting refused, when there are others who are getting approved under SS, or no annual income and stuff like that?

Since we're refused, it is possible to apply for IR1/CR1 right? But I am really getting discouraged. I don't wanna apply if we're gonna go thru this one more time. The wait is long, the money doesn't just grow on trees. #######?!?!

I am so sorry that this had happened. I just can't understand why Visa will be refused due to financial reasons if you were able to meet the 125% poverty guidelines. Please be strong. I hope and pray there will be other ways for you and your fiance to be together.. :-(

[Cathi 5,747]

I just had my interview this last Oct 3, I was asked to submit additional documents of my husband, they kept my passport and everything i submitted, they did not give me 221(g) papers, but they only emailed me to submit the documents for them to continue with my visa processing...The interview went well, the consul was very nice, but she just asked for more documents... I dont want to worry about getting denied...thinking positive about it... But part of me is worrying ... any suggestions with my case... thank you in advance..........

Yes, don't hijack someone else's thread and start your own Edited October 17, 2013 by mimolicious