need an answer about applying for SS card

[bgamb 3]

Hey folks

Today the government is up and running again so SS offices should be able to handle new applications for SS cards

Here is my question

We will marry this sunday----should I go and have my fiancée apply NOW with her maiden name.....or wait till after our honeymoon?

I thought I read comments here that after the wedding ceremony and her name changes.....SS can give you a hard time since her identification papers all

have her maiden name

thoughts??

thanks

[Penguin_ie 5,993]

*** Moving from Philippines to SSN forum as not a country specific topic ****

[Hank_ 9,174]

Hey folks

Today the government is up and running again so SS offices should be able to handle new applications for SS cards

Here is my question

We will marry this sunday----should I go and have my fiancée apply NOW with her maiden name.....or wait till after our honeymoon?

I thought I read comments here that after the wedding ceremony and her name changes.....SS can give you a hard time since her identification papers all

have her maiden name

thoughts??

thanks

Some SS offices give a person "issues" when applying after married and wanting to use their married name to apply, why I don't have a clue. My wife had no issues applying we were married to get her card in her married name.

Not sure why those "Forrest Gump Graduates" has issue using the married name when initially applying:

1) They will issue the card in their single name without issue.

2) SSN flat out tells you that to change your name to your married name on an SS card to bring your marriage license to the nearest SS office. So why the hassle totally confuses me.

[Caryh 5,206]

My wife and I waited to do her SS card until after we got married because we wanted her married name on the SS card from the start. Without an ID showing the new married name, or some documentation showing it, they might not allow her to use her married name the SS card even after the wedding. bureaucrats can be quite a pain in the butt over how they think someone's name should be, or when it changes. Much appears to be controlled over local customs and opinion rather than any fixed law. It worked well for us because our state's marriage certificate has the name before marriage, and the name after marriage on it. So we easily were able to follow the Philippines law of moving the wife's family name to the middle name position, and putting my last name as her new last name. Its not a big issue with SS card names not matching for a while after the marriage. Having the number is whats most important. Remember you need to get the SS number at a minimum of two weeks before the I-94 expires. Given the recent shut down, I'd advise doing it even earlier, or they might just say they're too far behind at two weeks before it expires.

[Caryh 5,206]

Some SS offices give a person "issues" when applying after married and wanting to use their married name to apply, why I don't have a clue. My wife had no issues applying we were married to get her card in her married name.

Not sure why those "Forrest Gump Graduates" has issue using the married name when initially applying:

1) They will issue the card in their single name without issue.

2) SSN flat out tells you that to change your name to your married name on an SS card to bring your marriage license to the nearest SS office. So why the hassle totally confuses me.

And particularly when you try to follow the married name in what's required by Philippine law for Philippine Citizens. I can't even count how many have been told they can't change their middle name, having no clue in the Philippines that is not a middle name, but rather a Paternal name for married women, and their mother's Paternal name before marriage. Something that is common in many cultures.

[Hank_ 9,174]

And particularly when you try to follow the married name in what's required by Philippine law for Philippine Citizens. I can't even count how many have been told they can't change their middle name, having no clue in the Philippines that is not a middle name, but rather a Paternal name for married women, and their mother's Paternal name before marriage. Something that is common in many cultures.

Ya that is another one, and couples need to stand their ground on that for sure. There was a couple just recently posting about that issue with their marriage certificate where a notary (yup a lowly POS notary) told them they could not do the name change as done in the Phils and he forced her to hyphenate the new surname.... that notary needs to be taken out in the desert and ..... well that is another story.

[Caryh 5,206]

Ya that is another one, and couples need to stand their ground on that for sure. There was a couple just recently posting about that issue with their marriage certificate where a notary (yup a lowly POS notary) told them they could not do the name change as done in the Phils and he forced her to hyphenate the new surname.... that notary needs to be taken out in the desert and ..... well that is another story.

I loved your reply to that one.

[bgamb 3]

And particularly when you try to follow the married name in what's required by Philippine law for Philippine Citizens. I can't even count how many have been told they can't change their middle name, having no clue in the Philippines that is not a middle name, but rather a Paternal name for married women, and their mother's Paternal name before marriage. Something that is common in many cultures.

not sure how it "should" go...but my fiancee continued to use the same middle name (her moms maiden name) on our marriage license application

That's what we will use when going for SS card.....

is this correct?

[Hank_ 9,174]

I loved your reply to that one.

If I was still up in Minnie-snow-da I would have said to take him up north.... lost of swamp land and marsh there

not sure how it "should" go...but my fiancee continued to use the same middle name (her moms maiden name) on our marriage license application

That's what we will use when going for SS card.....

is this correct?

You will run into issue when you do report of marriage and passport renewal, the consulate expects the name to be in the "proper" format.

New name: Same first name, middle name old last name, last name husband's last name

[bgamb 3]

If I was still up in Minnie-snow-da I would have said to take him up north.... lost of swamp land and marsh there

You will run into issue when you do report of marriage and passport renewal, the consulate expects the name to be in the "proper" format.

New name: Same first name, middle name old last name, last name husband's last name

so...if she was

Jane smith obama

and my name is

Bill schwartz

her new name MUST be

jane OBAMA? schwatrz???? (we assumed jane smith scwhartz was correct)

if so.....and the marr license application is made....should we go back and redo it??

Shouldn't the town hall person here in NY have known this?

jeez...does the confusion ever end? haha

[Caryh 5,206]

If I was still up in Minnie-snow-da I would have said to take him up north.... lost of swamp land and marsh there

You will run into issue when you do report of marriage and passport renewal, the consulate expects the name to be in the "proper" format.

New name: Same first name, middle name old last name, last name husband's last name

Yep, the Philippines has written into law what options there are for a woman changing her name after marriage. Keeping her mother's maiden name in the middle name position is not allowed.

The other options are keeping her maiden name, or going as Mrs (your name) essentially giving up her name completely.

[Hank_ 9,174]

so...if she was

Jane smith obama

and my name is

Bill schwartz

her new name MUST be

jane OBAMA? schwatrz???? (we assumed jane smith scwhartz was correct)

if so.....and the marr license application is made....should we go back and redo it??

Shouldn't the town hall person here in NY have known this?

jeez...does the confusion ever end? haha

The correct format for her new name is jane OBAMA schwatrz (even though I am sure she would want a new middle name )

What is required in the Philippines is not common knowledge by the "Forrest Gump Graduates" here in the USA.

[mrsSpitze 9]

it gets more confusing when your wife has a second name like mine. *_*

They confuse the second name as the middle name.

Speaking of which I think I may have a problem with DMV.

[bgamb 3]

Yep, the Philippines has written into law what options there are for a woman changing her name after marriage. Keeping her mother's maiden name in the middle name position is not allowed.

The other options are keeping her maiden name, or going as Mrs (your name) essentially giving up her name completely.

so if we DONT change it as it stands ......what does it affect here in the USA?

[Caryh 5,206]

so if we DONT change it as it stands ......what does it affect here in the USA?

It affects nothing here in the USA. It does affect reporting her marriage to the Philippines, or getting a passport in her married name (which cannot be done without reporting the marriage). So when she travels, she'll have a passport in her maiden name requiring her to carry a copy of the marriage certificate when re-entering the USA. Essentially she will have one legal name there, and another legal name in the USA. If its possible, I'd try to get the name fixed on the marriage license to prevent the later headache of having two names.

Edited October 17, 2013 by Caryh