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[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Kaydee, you have completely forgotten what America is supposed to stand for and strive for.

You and people like you will be the end of this country. You should be ashamed to talk the way you do; I am certainly ashamed you're American.

Actually it's people like you that are the danger.

Thats very very true and to the point,garya505! doesnt need to be expanded on, If I had to explain it you would not understand.

Perhaps because you couldn't do it without dipping into the pool of Republican party slogans and soundbites?

Again, who is suggesting that legal immigrants should be denied fundamental democratic freedoms?

I wouldn't touch that with a barge-pole personally, whatever group loyalty you might have for your friend Kaydee.

the statement they quoted and replied to - such was directed at a usc, erekose

Not that it really matters, but that's interesting, because I could have sworn I said:

Care to expand on that?

From where I stand, Alex+R is not the one suggesting that immigrants have no right to a fundamental democratic freedom.

In response to which Marc has just replied:

...doesnt need to be expanded on...

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In any case, private conversations are for PMs, not for public forums

[kaydee457 13]

erekose- The act of engaging in political debate is your right. Engaging in anti-American rhetoric isn't. Regardless of which side of an issue you're on, the way to win a debate is not to call the subject person "stupid".

Additionally, you have implied, time and again in these forums, that people not in lock step with you on an issue are somehow "not enlightened" given they have no first hand experience concerning the topic at hand.

This is exactly the same argument I use against you concerning the Middle East and its politics. In one instance you wish to dominate the discussions involving topics you have no first hand experience with, however, when it suits your needs you bash people for their lack of informed input due to lack of first hand experience. Which way do you want it? Is this not hypocritical of you? Of course it is.

Now you're an immigrant to the U.S. If you believe that the U.S. President is "stupid" then of course there are other places in the world that may accept you; perhaps France?

We already have several hundred mosques, towns, neighborhoods, and "associations" whereby immigrants, LPR's as well as illegal’s, that serve to do nothing more than segregate themselves and tell the rest of us all that's wrong with America.

I hear nothing more than that from you.

For all others responding to this thread, indignantly so; "sticks and stones may break my bones......"

[Reynaldo 0]

erekose- The act of engaging in political debate is your right. Engaging in anti-American rhetoric isn't. Regardless of which side of an issue you're on, the way to win a debate is not to call the subject person "stupid".

Additionally, you have implied, time and again in these forums, that people not in lock step with you on an issue are somehow "not enlightened" given they have no first hand experience concerning the topic at hand.

This is exactly the same argument I use against you concerning the Middle East and its politics. In one instance you wish to dominate the discussions involving topics you have no first hand experience with, however, when it suits your needs you bash people for their lack of informed input due to lack of first hand experience. Which way do you want it? Is this not hypocritical of you? Of course it is.

Now you're an immigrant to the U.S. If you believe that the U.S. President is "stupid" then of course there are other places in the world that may accept you; perhaps France?

We already have several hundred mosques, towns, neighborhoods, and "associations" whereby immigrants, LPR's as well as illegal’s, that serve to do nothing more than segregate themselves and tell the rest of us all that's wrong with America.

I hear nothing more than that from you.

For all others responding to this thread, indignantly so; "sticks and stones may break my bones......"

Oh my god.

I am moving to a place where people think like that?

Jesus Christ, no.

That can't be possible.

[pedroh 21]

erekose- The act of engaging in political debate is your right. Engaging in anti-American rhetoric isn't. Regardless of which side of an issue you're on, the way to win a debate is not to call the subject person "stupid".

Additionally, you have implied, time and again in these forums, that people not in lock step with you on an issue are somehow "not enlightened" given they have no first hand experience concerning the topic at hand.

This is exactly the same argument I use against you concerning the Middle East and its politics. In one instance you wish to dominate the discussions involving topics you have no first hand experience with, however, when it suits your needs you bash people for their lack of informed input due to lack of first hand experience. Which way do you want it? Is this not hypocritical of you? Of course it is.

Now you're an immigrant to the U.S. If you believe that the U.S. President is "stupid" then of course there are other places in the world that may accept you; perhaps France?

We already have several hundred mosques, towns, neighborhoods, and "associations" whereby immigrants, LPR's as well as illegal’s, that serve to do nothing more than segregate themselves and tell the rest of us all that's wrong with America.

I hear nothing more than that from you.

For all others responding to this thread, indignantly so; "sticks and stones may break my bones......"

so are you saying that all immigrants have to become WASP's? no mosques, no cultural freedom, do they have to become christians, go to church and talk polite about the US government? it's funny how you mention that only the ones who go to mosques or people from other nationalities are segregating themselves from America...

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I wonder where and how I am supposedly segregating myself from the rest of society…

[Reynaldo 0]

erekose- The act of engaging in political debate is your right. Engaging in anti-American rhetoric isn't. Regardless of which side of an issue you're on, the way to win a debate is not to call the subject person "stupid".

To you any debate that doesn't have your bias is an anti-American rhetoric.

Now you're an immigrant to the U.S. If you believe that the U.S. President is "stupid" then of course there are other places in the world that may accept you; perhaps France?

We already have several hundred mosques, towns, neighborhoods, and "associations" whereby immigrants, LPR's as well as illegal’s, that serve to do nothing more than segregate themselves and tell the rest of us all that's wrong with America.

I thought America was a free country and freedom for religion was guaranteed in the constitution.

[mybackpages 0]

I wonder how long before my US citizenship is revoked because I do not follow kaydee's rules of being a good american. Can;t wait to relocate to France.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Seems rather odd to me why people move here and do nothing but "BIOTCH" about the place. If you move to a house and find you don't like the neighborhood you move out and find a better place to live! SOOOOOO? Complaining on an obscure marriage forum about how FUKCED up America is, does'nt really do anything to change your miserable lives.TAKE ACTION, get the he!! out. Masochists, you gotta lovem.

[Reynaldo 0]

Seems rather odd to me why people move here and do nothing but "BIOTCH" about the place. If you move to a house and find you don't like the neighborhood you move out and find a better place to live! SOOOOOO? Complaining on an obscure marriage forum about how FUKCED up America is, does'nt really do anything to change your miserable lives.TAKE ACTION, get the he!! out. Masochists, you gotta lovem.

America is not fck'd up, you are.

And some foreigner is actually marrying you.

ETA: And we are not going to move out, we are trying to make our neighborhood better, so everyone can live well in it. Thanks for the analogy.

Edited December 14, 2006 by Reynaldo

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Seems rather odd to me why people move here and do nothing but "BIOTCH" about the place. If you move to a house and find you don't like the neighborhood you move out and find a better place to live! SOOOOOO? Complaining on an obscure marriage forum about how FUKCED up America is, does'nt really do anything to change your miserable lives.TAKE ACTION, get the he!! out. Masochists, you gotta lovem.

America is not fck'd up, you are.

And some foreigner is actually marrying you.

ETA: And we are not going to move out, we are trying to make our neighborhood better, so everyone can live well in it. Thanks for the analogy.

Thats a compliment coming from someone like you, keep up the good work! Its very funny how you took the bait and applied my statements to yourself, flystrips are very simple but work very effectively! please apply top right picture!

oh and by the way she isnt a foreigner she is all american!

Edited December 14, 2006 by CarolsMarc

[Reynaldo 0]

Seems rather odd to me why people move here and do nothing but "BIOTCH" about the place. If you move to a house and find you don't like the neighborhood you move out and find a better place to live! SOOOOOO? Complaining on an obscure marriage forum about how FUKCED up America is, does'nt really do anything to change your miserable lives.TAKE ACTION, get the he!! out. Masochists, you gotta lovem.

America is not fck'd up, you are.

And some foreigner is actually marrying you.

ETA: And we are not going to move out, we are trying to make our neighborhood better, so everyone can live well in it. Thanks for the analogy.

Thats a compliment coming from someone like you, keep up the good work! Its very funny how you took the bait and applied my statements to yourself, flystrips are very simple but work very effectively! please apply top right picture!

oh and by the way she isnt a foreigner she is all american!

You are just sick, man...

Edited December 14, 2006 by Reynaldo

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Seems rather odd to me why people move here and do nothing but "BIOTCH" about the place. If you move to a house and find you don't like the neighborhood you move out and find a better place to live! SOOOOOO? Complaining on an obscure marriage forum about how FUKCED up America is, does'nt really do anything to change your miserable lives.TAKE ACTION, get the he!! out. Masochists, you gotta lovem.

America is not fck'd up, you are.

And some foreigner is actually marrying you.

ETA: And we are not going to move out, we are trying to make our neighborhood better, so everyone can live well in it. Thanks for the analogy.

Thats a compliment coming from someone like you, keep up the good work! Its very funny how you took the bait and applied my statements to yourself, flystrips are very simple but work very effectively! please apply top right picture!

oh and by the way she isnt a foreigner she is all american!

You are just sick, man...

Thanks again, Merry Christmas!

[pedroh 21]

Seems rather odd to me why people move here and do nothing but "BIOTCH" about the place. If you move to a house and find you don't like the neighborhood you move out and find a better place to live! SOOOOOO? Complaining on an obscure marriage forum about how FUKCED up America is, does'nt really do anything to change your miserable lives.TAKE ACTION, get the he!! out. Masochists, you gotta lovem.

ahh the typical larry the cable guy mentality.. if you don't like America, for any reason, get out!!.. lolol.. git-r-dunn!!

I don't think that criticizing a country (of course, constructive critique) is a synonim of anti-patriotistm or in this case, anti-Americanism... why are 'all-american' groups or association (like the cult of pat robertson) are allowed to complain, while immigrants can't? either both of them b!tch @ the government, or none..

besides i too think that America provides freedom or religion and expression to all immigrants and US citizens..

now what defines an American?

-support everything Bush says, not criticize him at all?

- becoming a Christian, because dem mosques train terrorists?

-eating grits and bacon and love the waffle house?

I think a 'definition' of American cannot be explained in total blind support of the goverment or how 'b!tchy' the immigrant is..

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

ahh the typical larry the cable guy mentality.. if you don't like America, for any reason, get out!!.. lolol.. git-r-dunn!!

Ahhhhh, I love the typical way Libs start out their remarks with personal attacks or what they think are. Larry is a very successful comedian,is he not? Your statement also shows how you think people from the south are stupid. I see its overcast in your Ivory tower! Waffles and bacon? I think your organic garden has been contaminated!

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

erekose- The act of engaging in political debate is your right. Engaging in anti-American rhetoric isn't. Regardless of which side of an issue you're on, the way to win a debate is not to call the subject person "stupid".

Additionally, you have implied, time and again in these forums, that people not in lock step with you on an issue are somehow "not enlightened" given they have no first hand experience concerning the topic at hand.

This is exactly the same argument I use against you concerning the Middle East and its politics. In one instance you wish to dominate the discussions involving topics you have no first hand experience with, however, when it suits your needs you bash people for their lack of informed input due to lack of first hand experience. Which way do you want it? Is this not hypocritical of you? Of course it is.

Now you're an immigrant to the U.S. If you believe that the U.S. President is "stupid" then of course there are other places in the world that may accept you; perhaps France?

We already have several hundred mosques, towns, neighborhoods, and "associations" whereby immigrants, LPR's as well as illegal’s, that serve to do nothing more than segregate themselves and tell the rest of us all that's wrong with America.

I hear nothing more than that from you.

For all others responding to this thread, indignantly so; "sticks and stones may break my bones......"

Oh my god.

I am moving to a place where people think like that?

Jesus Christ, no.

That can't be possible.

No you don't move to a place where people think like that. There's a small fragment of the population that have those and similar sentiments but for the most part, people are far more tolerant. Most people in America understand that George Bush is a transitional figure but not America. Only some see America and W as one and the same.

Edited December 14, 2006 by ET-US2004